SCOTUS strikes down gay marriage bans nationwide

No, what you meant was "religious conservatives" are right on this issue.

But, actually they are wrong.

The GOP is all over the map on this issue.

I am a Republican (mostly) and a small government conservative (on fiscal, foreign policy, civil liberties, and defense spending issues).

Dick Cheney and a lot of other prominent Republicans support gay marriage and the majority of Republicans below about 40 years old support it.

The only slice of the GOP (and even the Democrats) that is against it is the older, religious bloc. And they are dying off.

So what is the point of maintaining opposition to gay marriage and treating gays unequally? Just to make old people feel good about their old traditions? Originally Posted by ExNYer

I agree with most of your analysis.

What is the point of marriage today though?

In the past it was a pact between a man and woman to raise children. Now its more like a benefits package with none of the cost (raising children).

I don't consider denying gays marriage treating them "unequally." They cannot "equally" have children. Most gays really don't want children. Most gays don't want to have a partner for life either.

Most gays just want health insurance and some of the legal and tax niceties with none of the inconveniences.

They don't really want to be married. If they did, they'd be procreating, but they don't...because their gay.

And a lot of hetero people today don't want traditional marriage. Some coworker put on his FB page put a picture of himself , his wife and two kids against overlayed with a gay pride logo celebrating the SC decision. He's not even married.

Most marriages don't last and the kids are split up long before they reach college age. Many women will pop a kid or two out for you gratis.

The institution is in trouble and the children suffer. I don't see how the SC decision helps marriage. IMO the SC would have done society a favor by not recognizing marriage as a govt sanctioned, govt funded social contract.

This is a good sign that society is moving away from being controlled by what an angry old bearded man in the Middle East wrote down in the 12th century BC.

This victory for sexual freedom and bodily self determination will hasten the day that laws against consensual adult prostitutuon will also be struck down by SCOTUS.

My guess is that that will happen within 10 years.

The next hanky will be two gays guys (wtf and bt?) successfully suing the Catholic Church for refusing to marry them. Originally Posted by gnadfly

Won't happen.

No one has a right to have a religion change its belief to suit them.

Two heterosexual atheists, or Jews, or Scientologists, or divorcees cannot force the Cathloic Church to marry them. So how could two gays?

I don't quite follow your counter argument but I think it assumes the separation of church and state...which IMO will continue to be overtaken.

Won't happen.

No one has a right to have a religion change its belief to suit them.

Two heterosexual atheists, or Jews, or Scientologists, or divorcees cannot force the Cathloic Church to marry them. So how could two gays? Originally Posted by ExNYer

That's exactly what the SCOTUS said will happen... Any church... tax exempt status, GONE... if they do not.




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The next hanky will be two gays guys (wtf and bt?) successfully suing the Catholic Church for refusing to marry them. Originally Posted by gnadfly

I don't think gays view marriage as anything spiritual. If I had to guess, 90% of gays are atheist anyway. They would just go the courthouse and pay the fee and be done with it. Then head on over to Talleywackers for their reception party.

Jim

But fuck 82 or less whores and you're good. Originally Posted by flinde

You have 28 reviews- he who is without sin cast the first stone? The big difference is- I don't go around looking to legalize prostitution. Why stop at gay marriage- hell let's make everything legal- if a 45 year old wants to marry a 12 year old let's make it perfectly fine. There's a reason why gay marriage has been banned and illegal for centuries and not accepted in nearly every society I can think of- yet now everyone thinks we should allow people to be "open-minded" and allow anything.
Yes marriage between same sex people is immoral and Yes homosexuality is immoral. If I had 820 reviews I wouldn't give a rats ass- the shit should still be illegal.

This is a good sign that society is moving away from being controlled by what an angry old bearded man in the Middle East wrote down in the 12th century BC.

This victory for sexual freedom and bodily self determination will hasten the day that laws against consensual adult prostitutuon will also be struck down by SCOTUS.

My guess is that that will happen within 10 years. Originally Posted by cbs200

Can you explain why in an atheists countries like China and Russia - homosexual marriage isn't allowed? Keep in mind these are two large companies that don't follow the teachings of your so called "angry" bearded man. There are 196 countries in th world- only 23 of them allow same sex marriage- prior to 2010- no country recognized same sex marriage- I hope the remaining countries don't follow this awful trend.

So is fornication with prostitutes, but that doesn't bother you, does it, WeeEndowed, the white God Fauxing Christian? Btw, have you sent those threatening pms to the Mods yet? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Does fornication bother you- you old POS? Your God Fauxing Christian is getting as old and tired each time you post asshole. So answer me- you stated you were a Christian- do you not far God? Your dumb ass somehow confuses a person being a God fearing Christian with a person claiming to be a saint- I have never claimed to be a saint anywhere on this board you dumb fuck.

That's exactly what the SCOTUS said will happen... Any church... tax exempt status, GONE... if they do not. Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Can you provide a citation for that?

I agree with most of your analysis.

What is the point of marriage today though?

In the past it was a pact between a man and woman to raise children. Now its more like a benefits package with none of the cost (raising children).

I don't consider denying gays marriage treating them "unequally." They cannot "equally" have children. Most gays really don't want children. Most gays don't want to have a partner for life either.

Most gays just want health insurance and some of the legal and tax niceties with none of the inconveniences.

They don't really want to be married. If they did, they'd be procreating, but they don't...because their gay.

And a lot of hetero people today don't want traditional marriage. Some coworker put on his FB page put a picture of himself , his wife and two kids against overlayed with a gay pride logo celebrating the SC decision. He's not even married.

Most marriages don't last and the kids are split up long before they reach college age. Many women will pop a kid or two out for you gratis.

The institution is in trouble and the children suffer. I don't see how the SC decision helps marriage. IMO the SC would have done society a favor by not recognizing marriage as a govt sanctioned, govt funded social contract. Originally Posted by gnadfly

Human nature is a strange thing. We usually want what we can't have. Gays have been wanting equal marriage rights for thirty years. Now they have it. Watch the drama unfold.


Jim

That's exactly what the SCOTUS said will happen... Any church... tax exempt status, GONE... if they do not. Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

The churches should be paying taxes regardless.

So is fornication with prostitutes, but that doesn't bother you, does it, WeeEndowed, the white God Fauxing Christian? Btw, have you sent those threatening pms to the Mods yet? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

that's funny,weeendowed

Most marriages don't last, Turdfly?

link please.

Gays threaten children?

Link, please.

Your post is rife with questionable "facts." it's what you wants to be true, no doubt. But it isn't.

I agree with most of your analysis.

What is the point of marriage today though?

In the past it was a pact between a man and woman to raise children. Now its more like a benefits package with none of the cost (raising children).

I don't consider denying gays marriage treating them "unequally." They cannot "equally" have children. Most gays really don't want children. Most gays don't want to have a partner for life either.

Most gays just want health insurance and some of the legal and tax niceties with none of the inconveniences.

They don't really want to be married. If they did, they'd be procreating, but they don't...because their gay.

And a lot of hetero people today don't want traditional marriage. Some coworker put on his FB page put a picture of himself , his wife and two kids against overlayed with a gay pride logo celebrating the SC decision. He's not even married.

Most marriages don't last and the kids are split up long before they reach college age. Many women will pop a kid or two out for you gratis.

The institution is in trouble and the children suffer. I don't see how the SC decision helps marriage. IMO the SC would have done society a favor by not recognizing marriage as a govt sanctioned, govt funded social contract. Originally Posted by gnadfly

Although I don't agree with the SCOTUS- however your points are baseless and honestly stupid!