Why I Oppose Barack Obama

SNORT.

This is an utter lie. Completely.

How many of your doctors refuse to accept private insurance?

SNORT.

This is an utter lie. Completely.

How many of your doctors refuse to accept private insurance? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The White House sent a thousand more U.S. troops to West Africa Friday to help the locals deal with Ebola epidemic. It's a scary mission. Back when Barack Obama campaigned for president on bringing the country free health care, he didn't mention that the country is Liberia.

SNORT.

This is an utter lie. Completely.

How many of your doctors refuse to accept private insurance? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

How many new Obozocare customers are on medicaid?... Rump Smoocher


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THURSDAY, OCTOBER 30, 2014
25% of All Docs Opt Out of Obamacare (May Be As Many as 50% to 70% Opting Out in California)

More than 214,000 doctors refuse to participate in the new plans under PPACA according to a new survey by Medical Group Management Association.
That is about 25% of the total number of 893,851 active physicians.
Back in January, as many as 70% of California physicians were estimated to be outside of the State's PPACA Exchange.

Why don't physicians want to participate in Obamacare? Reimbursements are simply too low to be profitable - they are even lower than Medicare reimbursements, which are already significantly below market rates.

It is estimated that where private plans pay $1 for a service, Medicare pays 80 cents, and
ACA exchange plans are now paying about 60 cents, a study by the think-tank American Action Forum finds.

Additionally, doctors are concerned they may not be paid at all.
75% of ACA patients that had seen doctors had chosen plans with high deductibles. Given that most of the patients are low-income, doctors are concerned that the patients cannot meet the deductibles and they will get stuck with the bill.

HHS requires that insurers cover customers for an additional 90 days after they have stopped paying their premiums:
the insurer covers the first 30 - but, it's up to the doctor to recoup payment for the last 60 days.

Currently, about a million people have failed to pay their premiums and had their plans canceled.

Not talking about expanded Medicaid, dipshit.

How many of them are in Texas, do you think?

For a change you don't understand the discussion. Confused? yep...

Not talking about expanded Medicaid, dipshit.

How many of them are in Texas, do you think?

For a change you don't understand the discussion. Confused? yep... Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Nice deflection, but it doesn't change the fact that your ass was handed to you, and you were caught, once again, either lying or being incredibly stupid.

How many new Obozocare customers are on medicaid?... Rump Smoocher


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THURSDAY, OCTOBER 30, 2014
25% of All Docs Opt Out of Obamacare (May Be As Many as 50% to 70% Opting Out in California)

More than 214,000 doctors refuse to participate in the new plans under PPACA according to a new survey by Medical Group Management Association.
That is about 25% of the total number of 893,851 active physicians.
Back in January, as many as 70% of California physicians were estimated to be outside of the State's PPACA Exchange.

Why don't physicians want to participate in Obamacare? Reimbursements are simply too low to be profitable - they are even lower than Medicare reimbursements, which are already significantly below market rates.

It is estimated that where private plans pay $1 for a service, Medicare pays 80 cents, and
ACA exchange plans are now paying about 60 cents, a study by the think-tank American Action Forum finds.

Additionally, doctors are concerned they may not be paid at all.
75% of ACA patients that had seen doctors had chosen plans with high deductibles. Given that most of the patients are low-income, doctors are concerned that the patients cannot meet the deductibles and they will get stuck with the bill.

HHS requires that insurers cover customers for an additional 90 days after they have stopped paying their premiums:
the insurer covers the first 30 - but, it's up to the doctor to recoup payment for the last 60 days.

Currently, about a million people have failed to pay their premiums and had their plans canceled.


Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

If you are on the expanded Medicaid it just means you fall into the category of family of 4 that makes less than $24,000. So, 6 million poor people signed up for Medicaid, what's the big deal. Having Medicaid coverage is better than having no coverage. Doctors don't treat uninsured patients who can't pay. If 25% percent of the doctors are not seeing Obamacare patients, 75% are. So, find a doctor who is in the 75%.

If you are uninsured, you won't be able to see ANY DOCTOR unless you find a hospital like where Duncan(the ebola patient) went to, that treats people regardless of their ability to pay.

When a hospital sees a patient who can't pay due to the Regan law of 1986 that hospital will simply pass the cost on to patients who can pay.

Why do you think it cost $40,000 to treat a snake bite when the antiserum costs $800 on the internet. Someone posted a thread on this last year.

One more time IFFY, some health insurance is better than no health insurance. Just ask the 400,000 citizens of Kentucky who got health insurance because of the ACA.

Nice deflection, but it doesn't change the fact that your ass was handed to you, and you were caught, once again, either lying or being incredibly stupid.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

How?

You're delusional for a change.

and slobbrin's cut and paste is a lie. PERIOD. it doesn't even mention Medicaid, but he does.

What part of "read the fucking post" don't you understand Whiny?

The White House sent a thousand more U.S. troops to West Africa Friday to help the locals deal with Ebola epidemic. It's a scary mission. Back when Barack Obama campaigned for president on bringing the country free health care, he didn't mention that the country is Liberia. Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

More bullshit.

How?

You're delusional for a change.

and slobbrin's cut and paste is a lie. PERIOD. it doesn't even mention Medicaid, but he does.

What part of "read the fucking post" don't you understand Whiny? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Doubling down on stupid. That's why you are the reigning DATY, and Dipshit Emeritus.

Obaminable has a couple of more years, plus a few months to ... beat Bush!

Don't dispair; he will best Bush for the bottom. May be Carter. Originally Posted by LexusLover

IMO he already has Carter beat. At least the peanut farmer could point to the Camp David Accords as a foreign policy success to counter-balance his inept handling of Iran. Odumbo has ZERO foreign policy successes.

Oh wait, I almost forgot this one....

Awwww come on, SOTF. You'd fuck him! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

you truly are a dipshit, asswipe, and boring

Both Frieden and Collins are Obama appointees. Two more examples of Obama's utter inability to surround himself with the best and brightest. Just in case the morons he appointed to the CDC and NIH aren't enough, he turns around and appoints a political hack/operative to be the "Ebola Czar", demonstrating in no uncertain terms that Obama's ONLY priority is POLITICS.

You have any complaints about Ebola now? You speak of academic credentials. Bush was the one with the "C" average in History from Yale.



Man I just love the way you morons spin, spin, and spin. We've been listening to "Bush lied and people died" for more than a decade. Now you dipshits turn on a dime with this ridiculous "Oh, well those WMD's we've been saying weren't there for the last 10 years are old, so they don't count"

Corroded weapons from the 1980's that the USA sold to Iraq does not count.

Bush was right. If Bush were like your boy Obama, he'd have been taking victory laps and doing the end zone dance, like Obama did with Seal Team 6. Fortunately, he has a little more class than your boy.

Bush was wrong that is why he left office with a disapproval rating of 71%

I guess you just ignore the mountain of data that shows that tax revenues INCREASED as a direct result of Bush's tax cuts. Facts are just so damned inconvenient for you idiots.

According to this link Tax revenues did not increase under Bush. This link was provided by Lexus Lover in another post. BTW, LL happens to be on your side.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebt...-President.htm

So, where is that mountain of data you were talking about?


Yup, yup. Its Bush's fault alright. The CRA just updated itself all on its own. Lowering bank reserves requirements, allowing sub-prime mortgages to be bundled, whitewashing the fraud at Freddie and Fannie - all that stuff happened all on its own right? No Democrat involvement at all! No Sir! Just don't take a peek at which politicians Freddie and Fannie (you know, the GOVERNMENT agencies) were pouring political contributions to.

Freddie and Fannie went under because a brokerage firm named Bear Stearns sold them some a lot of bad paper. When I have time, I'll find the link.

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

Tax revenue did not go up under Bush when he lowered taxes. From the link above.

President George W. Bush - President Bush added the second greatest amount to the debt, at $5.849 trillion. This more than doubled the debt, which was $5.8 trillion on September 30, 2001 -- the end of FY 2001, which was President Clinton's last budget. Bush responded to the 9/11 attacks by launching the War on Terror. This drove military spending to record levels, $600-$800 billion a year. This included the Iraq War, which cost $807.5 billion. President Bush also responded to the 2001 recession by passing EGTRRA and JGTRRA, otherwise known as the Bush tax cuts, which reduced revenue. He approved a $700 billion bailout package for banks to combat the 2008 global financial crisis. For more, see the Bush Administration.

Tax revenue did not go up under Bush when he lowered taxes. From the link above.

President George W. Bush - President Bush added the second greatest amount to the debt, at $5.849 trillion. This more than doubled the debt, which was $5.8 trillion on September 30, 2001 -- the end of FY 2001, which was President Clinton's last budget. Bush responded to the 9/11 attacks by launching the War on Terror. This drove military spending to record levels, $600-$800 billion a year. This included the Iraq War, which cost $807.5 billion. President Bush also responded to the 2001 recession by passing EGTRRA and JGTRRA, otherwise known as the Bush tax cuts, which reduced revenue. He approved a $700 billion bailout package for banks to combat the 2008 global financial crisis. For more, see the Bush Administration. Originally Posted by flghtr65

Thanks for the bump!