My main point of this- was to get opinions on how far some would go to use this tool correctly and to it's potential. I feel it is VERY important for ladies not only to actually READ potential clients' profile on the system, it is EXTREMELY important for them to check the OKs and IDs and make sure who they were contacted by IS the same person at the door.
Originally Posted by ~Ze~
Seriously? That seems like the
least important part of screening to me.
What kind of things can go wrong?
1) He might have "bogus" OK's -- so it's helpful to check the profile to see exactly who those X number of OK's are from. Are they well-known reputable ladies with similar screening standards? How old are the OK's? Consider contacting a few.
2) The prospective client might have "borrowed" someone else's P411 code (if the owner is careless or ladies he shared it with during screening are unscrupulous) -- so ask that he send an appointment request through P411 itself. That shows that the prospective client not only knows the code but also the password. Also, consider asking him to email you from the email address shown in his P411 profile. That will show he knows the email password.
3) Some info in the profile, on which you might (partly) rely, is a lie -- so verify it when following up with those ladies who gave him an OK. One particular thing that comes to mind is his handle on a P4P board. So, whether his profile on P411 says he's "Chevalier" or he mentions that in an email or appointment request, log onto ECCIE and send a PM to confirm that XXX-XX-X-XXXX on P411 = "Chevalier" on ECCIE. Now you know that he didn't just "borrow" a someone else's handle. (In all the time I've been on P411, only
one lady has done this. Kudos to her.)
4) He only asks for OK's from ladies he treats well, and doesn't volunteer negative information -- so check various boards and talk to ladies he's reviewed but didn't get an OK from. (OK, I deleted 40+ of my OK's so it may take awhile.) Check his online posts, check for alerts, ask around in the Powder Room or whatever you call it.
5) The guy you screened is not the guy who shows up. But how exactly does that happen?
A) You've been communicating with Y all along, as he has X's P411 code, P411 password, and ECCIE password. OK, seems very unlikely, but it
could happen.
B) You have indeed been communicating with X but he is conspiring with Y and Y shows up.
Possible scenarios, I guess, but much less likely than # 1 - 4. More importantly, someone who falls under # 5 has few if any scruples. And you haven't found that out until you're face to face with him. (Consider demanding to meet in a public place first to check the ids, although few ladies seem to have added that qualification. And: 1) not all clients will be willing to do that; and 2) by then he'll know what you look like and may be able to follow you when you leave.)
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Check the I'd and code when you meet? If it makes you feel better, sure. I don't see many new ladies but if I ever decide to, I'll change it to agree with identification I carry. Any lady is entitled to, and should, do whatever she feels necessary for her safety. And it's not so burdensome that I would refuse to see a lady who insisted on it.
But don't exaggerate the importance of one precaution that ineffectively guards against a very remote danger. It's not a problem in and of itself, but may distract you from other more important precautions -- dangers that are more likely and also easier to guard against. All this focus on verifying the P411 code may give inexperienced ladies a false sense of security.
My perpsective. YOMV
[/curmudgeonly rant]
Originally Posted by harleygene
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Originally Posted by oldmarine
