Interesting that you steered my comment in this direction. But ok.
Not that it matters, but i'm quite skeptical of pretty much everything she tells me. Most of it i'll dismiss entirely. But in fairness, i'm going to be a little less skeptical if what she tells me jibes with what i read from your own posts and comments, among other things.
We can disregard everything she's ever said to me, and still come to a reasonable conclusion that a middle-aged man used his money to seduce a hooker less than half his age. A middle-aged man with, based on his own words and posts, apparent control issues. And, surprisingly or not, the girl came out of that relationship quite a mess with some pretty bad habits. And furthermore, this middle-aged man with control issues not only had the means, but also the opportunity to be the easiest and most direct source of her bad habits.
Now, none of that is to definitively say you're the cause of her issues. Only you and her know what truly happened between the two of you. In fact, i don't doubt that you were victimized as you say. But it is to say that perhaps there are aspects here that oughta be considered beyond just the blanket denial of an anonymous poster on an escort review board. No matter how above board and respectable that poster may appear to be. And that, while a victim, that maybe, just maybe, you're not an entirely innocent victim in all this.
And as far as my level headedness, if you really wanna go there, being someone who was victimized to the extent you were by a 22 year old prostitute, well, feel free.
Originally Posted by Doove
Well, I don't have the time, energy, or desire to have one of those extended back and forth dialogues like you have had with Paul, MG, Normal Bob and others. I will say that it is interesting how far you extend what you feel is a reasonable conclusion. One could come up with thousands of scenarios based on the set of data you are using. Your scenario may be reasonable , but it isn't true. You can start at your first premise that a middle aged man used his money to seduce a young hooker. The idea of any relationship beyond the first visit (which was a paid visit while she was still an escort) was the young hooker's rather than the middle aged man.
As for a reasonable scenario , here is an alternate one. A young hooker retires from hooking and seduces a middle aged man -- partly because she has some apparent daddy issues and partly because he has some wealth. The middle aged man is flattered and doesn't think himself too old to make a go of it with someone 2 decades younger. Unfortunately, the young hooker has a troubled past that only gradually shows itself as time goes on. She also has certain proclivities that she has had many times in the past, but swore they were all in the past (as she does now). They were not all in the past and only got worse with time until they were out of control. Unlike your scenario, this one has the biggest source of stress between them his hatred of such proclivities rather than your assumption that he would support and encourage such proclivities. Coming out of the relationship didn't cause her to be a mess. The relationship ended as she became a mess. Anyone who knows someone who has these proclivities knows that they will say and do anything, true or not, to feed them. I find that reasonable conclusion more accurate than your reasonable conclusion.
As for the "control issues" of which you speak, one man's "control issues" is another man's "being in control". Many people feel that being in control is a good thing. You can spin it as an issue though.
In terms of victimization by a 22 yo prostitute showing some sort of lack of levelheadedness, that is only due to misplaced trust, my desire to try to help and keep giving her chances to turn things around even after the breakup. Mostly it was compassion, but there was an element of fear from the tactics mentioned in other threads which you apparently choose to ignore in favor of your theory you cite above.
That is about all the time and energy I can devote to it though , so if you want, you may continue your discussion without me , as the longer this goes on, the longer this goes on.