what should be done about providers who ignore reference requests

Do Nothing. I know Im alone here...but alter your screening methods. Although Im reference friendly, I do not rely on a strangers word regarding my standards of safety. In other words, it does not make or break my bank if a provider gets caught up with real world matters not checking her online persona in weeks or months.

Guys can behave differently with every woman.

Ugh, story of my life! I see it even more now that I'm screening for other ladies. I don't remember being this bad back in the day when I was providing.

Lately i have become rather frustrated with the many providers who ignore reference requests

They clearly read the message, the gent in question has reviewed them, and still nothing. I understand providers are busy but if u can take the time to read the message u can take the time to reply.

I have lost 3 potential appointments this week alone due to this.

So what should we do in these situations?

Call them out in public so potential clients can know not to count on these particular ladies to give them a reference? One provider has done this many times.

Or just ignore the cock blocking?

I thought the reference system was put in place to keep each other safe but lately it seems providers are only for self.

I do want to thank the providers who respond to reference request in a timely manner. You ladies are great. Special shout out to cassnadra lamore, raven rayne and the departed leilover who always give the best references in a timely manner

Sorry if this is rantish i am just very sick of the catty behind the scenes bs plus i just finished a very long overnight shift at the real job.

I still strongly suggest clients sign up for p411 to avoid all this crap. Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

Do Nothing!

Why would you want to visit someone that doesn't want to make a connection?

Move on!

As opposed to calling them out, maybe just shout out the best reference providers. I don't hobby nearly enough to have anything resembling recent references so I would appreciate knowing who provides timely references until I find one or two providers that I just want to stick with.

Do Nothing!

Why would you want to visit someone that doesn't want to make a connection?

Move on! Originally Posted by Olesweetie

Im a little confused the gent did want to see me his reference is the one who pulled the cock block

Thanks everyone else for your feedback

These ladies know who they are! I wont call out publicly but best believe if another guy gives her as a reference i will let them know she is not reference friendly

Do Nothing. I know Im alone here...but alter your screening methods. Although Im reference friendly, I do not rely on a strangers word regarding my standards of safety. In other words, it does not make or break my bank if a provider gets caught up with real world matters not checking her online persona in weeks or months.

Guys can behave differently with every woman. Originally Posted by Eva Damita

+1000

Ugh, story of my life! I see it even more now that I'm screening for other ladies. I don't remember being this bad back in the day when I was providing. Originally Posted by Nina Moretti

you are so very welcome sweetheart! I try my best to get back to all restaurants request as soon as possible because I due to others as I would hope they would do inverter but unfortunately that doesn't always happen. Sometimes it never happened! There are still some providers you have yet to respond to my request that were sent out on UMPTEEN months ago, l_o_l. I can only hope they're just oso busy they don't even have time to respond. But any who thanks for the shout out and hope you are doing well girl! Stay safe and have fun!

I still strongly suggest clients sign up for p411 to avoid all this crap. Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

I could not agree more.

I let my P411 membership laps but in process of renewal. I've missed several visit windows due to screening process with providers I have not seen before.

ECCIE needs a "Verified Client" list somewhere for providers to view.

Nothing fancy. Something to let providers know client isn't LE, rip-off's, some vicious freak, Etc...

I'm not sure if they have this in the powder room as my verified Gigolo status hasn't been approved yet. But it should be simple to create a "vouch" thread where the provider seeking references can send a reference "blast" to any providers who have seen a certain person in one thread and go from there. It may present it's own set of challenges though (immature, unprofessional responses, competition, jealousy, etc....). Maybe worth a try though. I don't know, just throwing it out there.

This is why the whole screening world is changing. Between ladies who don't answer at all (happens often), ladies who turn around and contact the gent with a discount (also happens often), and gents who say "please don't contact ________ -- every time someone contacts ________ she calls and yells and starts drama" (I have 3 ladies on my no reference list due to that). There are only a handful of ladies left that I accept references on. Fortunately, I seem to share the same pool of gents with these ladies and we all seem to back and forth with the references on various gents.

I've had to get un-lazy and start verifying the old school way without relying solely on references. As the saying goes... These hoes ain't loyal. Originally Posted by GracePreston

I couldnt of said it any better I gave up on accepting references as a form of screening and had to adapt to an employment verification type screening process and find out for my self if a gent was safe or not. It's an annoying process missing appointments because a provider doesn't reply but I also remember that I'm a grown woman and I can figure it out myself without relying on someone else to give me the information. I will still give references to verifed reviewed providers but I don't expect the same favor in return any more

I don't swim around much. Although I have good refs and let them know in advance. So, if I guy likes to swim around in this GREAT big pond of fun and a ref blocks him... Why not make it known in this little ec world who they are? It's not on you it's on them

You gals that are good about giving references need to start
a little club "The Hobby Reference Club"

Post it in your sig line "Proud Member In Good Standing Of The Hobby Reference Club"
Also in your showcase.

Guys would see it and know you are good about giving references
and taking care of business. Sell t-shirts also. LOL

A provider would have to have a record of providing timely
references to be included. Someone would have to be in charge though,
not me.

Also give a little explanation under the title explaining what it is
so guys will understand what it means and it's importance, guys are dumb.

Great thread, I had a terrible time seeing some great ladies due to slow response from my refs. Not a problem any more but I have felt the pain.

The hobby lobby reference club is a great idea. Maybe you make a contribution that goes towards socials to get on the list.

I get it, most guys here are to cheap to pony up....

Ignore theirs when the ask you for a reference. I know it is a detriment to the hobbyist if he really wants to see a particular provider, but can also be to the provider if she needs the money.

A good idea is the let the hobbyist know that the provider(s) he has chosen to give him references will not respond to reference checks and ask him if he has other ladies who will vouch for him so that you can see him for an appointment.

Also, if a lady is not reference friendly, maybe she could at least reply back with, "I do not give references, sorry." or something like that so that the provider knows her PM was read. This will at least give her the heads up sooner rather than later that she needs to alter her screening methods so that she can see the gentleman.