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Brooke, thanks for the advice. I don't think I would do any sort of cold call from BP without seeing the SP mentioned here. With me, the titles with the mixed UpPr andLOwER case lettering get bypassed directly, as do a lot of "safe" incall locations in the 10th Ward or Avenue D and N.Clinton. The girl might be straight up legit, but why take a risk?

As far as the risks the girls take, while cops are a big concern, obviously, the meeting of someone without any sort of ability to identify him should something go wrong, or to avoid that happening altogether, has to be the big thing. I understand the motivation, it is perfectly resonable. It's just unnnerving to an old guy like me to get through the process. The times are different, to be sure, from when I last regularly treated myself to the services of someone in the profession.

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hmmmm? so its like credit,u cant get credit without havin credit. what if you have no refrences? i soooooo long for the days of a pinky swear

Participating in this board in like a reference IMO too. Your behavior has already ruled some of you out. It can also help for me, I see patterns, personality, how you converse with others, concerns, etc. Be active here, im not saying every day but come hang out at least once a week so we can get to know you. Do you understand what I mean?

How people act and their participation on this board is very important IMO.

Men contacting with no reviews, posts, etc. I suggest they start to become active. Im also willing to meet men in public for like an internet "date". It is like internet dating. Its on my terms in a public restaurant but its also private. I will bring business things so if anyone "sees" I have cover. I do have a "day" job that services anyone and for many, many things. And it will fly very well with a wife or GF.

If you fly we set a rub up.

I have a very strong 6th sense and I can smell a creep or LE a mile away. I have experience with LE on other matters in the past. I am straight up no BS woman that has been there done that. Im a bit older than some of the other ladies and have learned some serious life lessons in the past. New to this job/board but not new. I will smell you and tell you where to go. Like Nikki she tells ya like it is.

Just like for me part of my screening is a phone call, I wont take you with out one. My 6th scene will kick in just by your voice. I also want to know I dont know if if you catch my drift.

Another thing how you contact us, your approach.. Did you read our guidelines? Your name, location, anything? Some of your locations are vague.. as some of you drop a one liner "are you available today?" Um who are you? No posts, no reviews, no name..nothing..

If your new or whatever be active here, be patient email, call, meet to make sure you are both safe. We do all have to start some where to get a reference. I see the catch 22 problem.

You can build your standing in the community if you put the effort in here and on other sites like 411. I know some dont use others but other do. Im working on being eligible for the 411.

Just like I am new and building myself here so you know I am safe. I will only run so long(6 months to a year) and retire but I will still hang around a bit to help others, etc when I am retired.

If your serious about working with top providers, put the effort in to build your standing. This is a risky business and it takes work to ensure safety and quality. As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. So pay your dues to get the safe quality.

I know some of this is partly OT but I think it matters.

Men contacting with no reviews, posts, etc. I suggest they start to become active. Originally Posted by LynnPL

My sense on this is that the Lurker to Participant - Hobbyist ratio is somewhere between 20:1 and 10:1.

There are a myriad of reasons why guys won't post here but will have an account.

My sense on this is that the Lurker to Participant - Hobbyist ratio is somewhere between 20:1 and 10:1.

There are a myriad of reasons why guys won't post here but will have an account. Originally Posted by NormalBob

I hear what you're saying. But If they are so paranoid/what not.. that they cant even post a thing ever well.. get out of here then. Funny people have been trucking along for years being careful

If they think they can just lurk then email hey you free all the sudden..?

I hear what you're saying. But If they are so paranoid/what not.. that they cant even post a thing ever well.. get out of here then. Funny people have been trucking along for years being careful

If they think they can just lurk then email hey you free all the sudden..? Originally Posted by LynnPL

Been one of the "lurkers" for awhile, this place can be alittle intimidating for a "newbie", but I guess your right, at some point you have to enter the frey..thanks

Some of my best clients are lurkers....there is always a place for them here..thats why this site is here..for the info they can gather to make sure they can see who the upscale providers are verses the..eh..not so good providers...

its good to be paranoid..it A. keeps the blood flowing
and B. may keep you from getting into a jam your not prepared to get out of....
And C. lets you know your still alive....

i agree. some of the best clients and utr providers only lurk here and would never post non stop all day everyday

i agree. some of the best clients and utr providers only lurk here and would never post non stop all day everyday Originally Posted by naughtynikki84

i agree to agree!!!!!!!!


for real..they screen with ease..they book..they show up..they don't squock about the rates..
they dont pick on my short-comings and they never push the envelope!!!!!
I like my lurker buddies!!!

i agree. some of the best clients and utr providers only lurk here and would never post non stop all day everyday Originally Posted by naughtynikki84

i agree to agree!!!!!!!!


for real..they screen with ease..they book..they show up..they don't squock about the rates..
they don't pick on my short-comings and they never push the envelope!!!!!
I like my lurker buddies!!! Originally Posted by anita germane

And they never give you reason to have to wipe the coffee/wine off keyboard/monitor.

The UTR providers I see lurk here for 2 reasons. What dumb azz thing did I say now. And when to ask for a raise. No I'm not Mr. Dithers. But the try to make feel like I am.

You have short comings, mmmm if all the same why bother. Guilty of envelope pushing. But I was when I was lurking ASPD. Its fun being the bad man behind blue eyes.

And some how 3 over many many years still see me. I see "short-comings" as good.

PS: forgive me just, envelope pushing.

As Nikki and Anita stated, some of the best gents are lurkers. And they are normally the professional type that will contact you without you having to ask for information, they already know what information you need/expect out of them.

As I tell any gent that sees me. It is up to them right now whether or not they write a review. I live it open. Someday, I may not want reviews of my self. So at that point, I would kindly ask not to write them at all.

Yes it is good to have reviews for a gent wanting to see a lady. But as a lady standpoint, if a gent has no review, it doesn't mean he isn't an active hobbyist, and it doesn't help me anymore than him having 3 or 119 er wait 120 (lol). I have had gents contact me that have fake reviews of ladies that they have "seen" and I put that in quotes because if you screen and ask the lady, she'll let you know if the meeting took place or not!

Plus think of it this way on the board, there are gents that see just one or two ladies faithfully. Each time a review is written, they may or may not get PA. But from what I believe I have read, PA credit means you can only review a lady every so often, I think its like 60 days...may be wrong but I am not a gent wanting PA credit lol. So for a regular client that sees provider X 2 times a month, why would he write a review every time he sees her, as he won't get credit if he has seen her since the last time he reviewed her. At that point the review is just for all the other gents to see what happened on the visit.

Just respect when gents don't post reviews or even converse in the forum. The forum is for interaction between males and females that may want to meet each other but talk first. There is no mandatory rule stating you have to post a review or post on the forums just because you have joined. So lurk on you lurkers....

I was referring to lurkers that have no info, no posts, no reference, nada.. they just lurk and expect to be serviced.. Dont even leave any info in the email to me just a "are you free today?" Obviously the lurkers you are talking about give you info and references.. thats not the same thing. I know there are good non posting/lurking men here. They also know the proper avenues to contact us.

I also get why people wont post everyday..

We risk having reviews and info about us for them to know what they are getting.. who we are, we are verified, etc.. We put it all out there for them so ...

They just cant expect any of us to see them when they don't have any info, etc to show or even give any info.. nothing. Do they really think they can lurk and see a top provider just like that? Think again.. They obviously dont even lurk good as they would know you cant expect to be seen by a provider when you dont have references or any info to give...

You cant even lurk and do your homework to know what it will takes to see a provider.. then they just need to stay away.

Its just my opinion

its 90days before you can re review for credit. So I am not taking in any more GWE. But could add a GFE. PM for my screening details.

I guess us non lurkers are all a bunch of heels then