Time to speak my mind.

+100 I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
I know a girl like that. Originally Posted by SexyKaylen

It's about time for her to retire (for a week) again.

Fritz get your credit card ready she'll need gas money to get back to KC.

Excuse me. Hello! Would someone send me a url of this provider to be sure I don't accept her as a ref. I have no idea who you could possibly be talking about. A possessive provider is a little "single white female-ish" to me.

I think there is several dating apps that would be more this ladies speed. Maybe E-harm, those dudes fill out like 2800 questions. They are searching for their one true love.

Problem solved.

I agree that guys shouldnt put up with shit like this so fuck it, the provider is Kaylen. While I complemented the lack of drama in a thread recently on this board, it disgusts me to hear that it is still happening BCDs. Originally Posted by bigryan2222

Like I said, I must be a lousy client that she doesn't want to keep to herself.

Like I said, I must be a lousy client that she doesn't want to keep to herself. Originally Posted by Kshunter

Same here. Never had her say anything to me about seeing other providers. And I've seen her dozens of times over the years.

I'm still trying to figure out the purpose of this thread! First it's stated that she is yelling at clients for seeing other providers, then it's stated that her rates are undercutting other providers. Which is it? To me this is starting to sound like a witch hunt.

If a provider wants to offer services at a lower rate, more power to her.

I've never seen Destiny (don't do CBJ) and have no beef with her. But as usual this thread is getting out of hand. When people start coming out of the woodwork trying to run a provider out of town - that's just wrong.

LOL This is one problem I'm glad I don't have. I see who I want... and if someone complains about another provider I've seen--sounds to me like that's their problem. Not mine.

....The treats fall out. Lol OK this made it to 5 pages so far.. Keep it civil folks,......who is next! Lol

You dont propose to each lady you bang? You know, im starting to think that Julia Roberts movie was a bunch of bullshit.


QUOTE=AllThisMeat;1056984388]LOL This is one problem I'm glad I don't have. I see who I want... and if someone complains about another provider I've seen--sounds to me like that's their problem. Not mine.[/QUOTE]

She does both, it says that im my first statement. Upon writing thus I figured she was only doing this to a few ladies and gents but now I can see that it is a much larger issue. If u dont have that problem with her thats great but that does not mean it isnt happening to others.

Same here. Never had her say anything to me about seeing other providers. And I've seen her dozens of times over the years.

I'm still trying to figure out the purpose of this thread! First it's stated that she is yelling at clients for seeing other providers, then it's stated that her rates are undercutting other providers. Which is it? To me this is starting to sound like a witch hunt.

If a provider wants to offer services at a lower rate, more power to her.

I've never seen Destiny (don't do CBJ) and have no beef with her. But as usual this thread is getting out of hand. When people start coming out of the woodwork trying to run a provider out of town - that's just wrong. Originally Posted by love2fishfork

Well when you twist the story around to benefit Kaylen it seems so harmless but reality has been stated. Us Ladies have all tried to help her at one point-- ehh.. FUCK that. Destinys story is the same as Sins story is the same as my story is the same as Emmies story is the same as bobs..franks...bills...toms.. Well you see my point. And nobody is trying to run her out of town--but fuck with our business and ppl's personal lives and eventually things will come to the surface. My clients in Wichita have also received the same treatment from your poor lil Kaylen. And when I was reviewed--sure enough--"Why did you see that Ho??"

Same here. Never had her say anything to me about seeing other providers. And I've seen her dozens of times over the years.

I'm still trying to figure out the purpose of this thread! First it's stated that she is yelling at clients for seeing other providers, then it's stated that her rates are undercutting other providers. Which is it? To me this is starting to sound like a witch hunt.

If a provider wants to offer services at a lower rate, more power to her.

I've never seen Destiny (don't do CBJ) and have no beef with her. But as usual this thread is getting out of hand. When people start coming out of the woodwork trying to run a provider out of town - that's just wrong. Originally Posted by love2fishfork

Its both. She's pulled both routines on me. Destiny isn't the only one she's pulled these stunts on. Like I said, I just got to the point where I tell guys not to worry about writing a review if they've seen her. That way they don't have to worry about catching grief.

No, she doesn't do it to every guy she sees, but she does it often enough that it is a problem.

And that isn't where it ends. Since we are airing things out, she loves to claim girls are pimped when she has absolutely nothing to base her claim on. She has told me herself that both Destiny and Emmie are pimped. Now, since I am not with them 24/7 I can't claim with certainty that either of them are not pimped, but I will eat my garters if either of them have a pimp.

Everyone knows Kaylen and I have history, we have at times been the closest of friends, and at times clawed one another's eyes out. She's been doing this for some time, and I just hold my peace about it. However, since Destiny chose to bring this to the board (and I'm glad she did), I'm adding my two cents to confirm that she is not the only one to run into these problems with Kaylen.

I don't want to run her out of town, but she does need to stop. Stop with the jealousy, stop with the back biting, stop with the stabbing girls in the back.

.. So RELIEVED that I was wrong. ♡♡♡♡ Originally Posted by Savannah Moon

Me too sweetheart....me too!

I'm just making observations here. Right now we have accusations that hobbyists are afraid to see other providers for fear that Kaylen might find out. Really!!! I mean REALLY! If true that's really sad. None of them (to my knowledge) have stepped forward publicly admitting this, but of course if it was me I'd be too embarrassed to admit it. No one is going to tell me who I can and can't see - well except for my girlfriend!

No I'm not Kaylen's white knight, and if a few hobbyists would step forward and admit this, I will gladly change my tune.

Got a little something to tell that may well validate what is being said here.
Now I have met Kaylen a couple of times early on in the hobby and believe she is a sweet girl IMO.

Now that being said she she has marketed herself well with her niche oral.

On the 14th of June ...it was late night and I was looking for a little TLC so after cruising the request "available section" I came across Shayla's ad and responded...actually I missed Kaylens post right below Shayla's...as fuck I dont know why...it was late and I was horny and in a hurry!

Saw Shayla that night...wrote a review about it...and not soon after it was posted got text mssgs and phone call upset that I saw Shayla over her.
I tried to explain what happened but she wanted to hear nothing of it.


Now Im not mad a Kaylen in anyway and I still believe he has alot of nice qualities...
But it did bother me...that I had this negativity I had to deal with over seeing another provider.

I mean I dont tell her who to see and not see...but it's my coin...ill see who I wish

I'm sure I will get a text, pm, phone call, smoke signal, western union, candy gram over this...but it needed to be said.

I have no ill will towards Kaylen...but dont chastise how I choose to spend my hard earned dollars

I'm not sure this is all so black and white? I do feel that the reference system is crucial in this hobby as it relates directly to our safety. No one wants to walk into a situation involving LE or into a situation with someone who steals or commits acts of violence during a session. Through references we can inform clients and providers of an individual's propensity to behave like this. To that end, we should all take references very seriously and honor that system that we have in place.

The issue of a provider "low balling" another, does sound a little bit to some degree, like sour grapes? In the business world, which this is, people do "price match" and offer "sales" to attract customers from their competitors? In the world of independent contracting, some will even take a job wherein they don't turn a profit on it just to show how good they are at what they do as a way to earn a customer's business going forward. This is all part of free enterprise, isn't it?

I have no opinion on the whole back biting, threats, black mail, garbage that has also been brought up in this thread other than the one I've had my entire life. "Those types of deeds are a reflection of an individual's character and a person's character is what I go by to determine my level of involvement with that person."

I have not seen that type of behavior from anyone on this board to date and hope that it continues to be that way. The minute that changes will be the minute I seek other options for having my hobby needs met. We all have that right, don't we?

The issue of a provider "low balling" another, does sound a little bit to some degree, like sour grapes? In the business world, which this is, people do "price match" and offer "sales" to attract customers from their competitors? In the world of independent contracting, some will even take a job wherein they don't turn a profit on it just to show how good they are at what they do as a way to earn a customer's business going forward. This is all part of free enterprise, isn't it? Originally Posted by Cleo

Yep. It's a business. I wonder if a lot of what is being discussed isn't brought on by the guys' behavior. Like I said, I've seen her quite a few times over the years and she's never asked me not to see anyone else or given me crap about seeing someone else. But maybe the way I act makes it clear that I wouldn't tolerate that.