p411 client, very aggressive attitude

You gotta negotiate that shit man. Of course you're gonna get squeezed. Without explicitly saying it's coming out of the cost for the session, it's all extra and on you. That's one of the things in a providers favor just about every time. Originally Posted by FunInDFW

Yes, if you are so inclined, you can let the provider know that you have brought no more money than the required donation so when she asks you to stop by the store for anything for her, it is coming out of her donation. Most of the time, if you do that, then quickly, she is not so hungry, thirsty or in need of you to go to the store for her anymore!

You gotta negotiate that shit man. Of course you're gonna get squeezed. Without explicitly saying it's coming out of the cost for the session, it's all extra and on you. That's one of the things in a providers favor just about every time. Originally Posted by FunInDFW

I'm not sure if I agree with that one Fun. If the provider specifically requested something (not small purchases like condoms or a coke), especially when it could equate to a material amount of the session fee, I believe it should be on the provider to specify if it will come out of the session fee or not.

For one, It's the provider's choice if she does/doesn't want to do it. Therefore, if she withholds that information, she's willingly leaving the decision in the hands of the hobbyist. Whenever that is done, we get reports like this.

I don't drink. So the tequila was all for her!

Drinking sure seems to cause her issues with her clients. 2nd drinking/providing related incident in a week. Hmmm... Both with tequila.

If he had decided on his own accord to bring her the tequila with no prompting, that would be a different story. Clients are not required to pick up the tab on our specific vices. She asked him to stop and get it. Period. Quit trying to be slick rick.

I'm not defending him by any means as far as his hobbying though. He can't stay hard, can't cum, wants to be rough, condescending, plays the victim when it comes to his limp dick...too much of a headache. Nobody needs the money that bad....

Details, they matter. Assumption is the mother of all fuckups.

Katrina where are you getting your info? I've never seen you

I'm not sure if I agree with that one Fun. If the provider specifically requested something (not small purchases like condoms or a coke), especially when it could equate to a material amount of the session fee, I believe it should be on the provider to specify if it will come out of the session fee or not.

For one, It's the provider's choice if she does/doesn't want to do it. Therefore, if she withholds that information, she's willingly leaving the decision in the hands of the hobbyist. Whenever that is done, we get reports like this. Originally Posted by DarkeyKong

That's fine, and we're boiling it down to who the responsibility falls on. Tainted with cynicism, I'm comfortable in saying that most providers are willing to get whatever extra they can out of you on top of the session fee. As a hobbyist, you should be covering your ass and making sure what you're deciding (ie: to take the amount of the extra from the session fee) is clear before doing anything so you're all on the same page. But if you can find providers who agree that it's the hobbyists choice and accept it when it happens, even better!

Though, as a flaw to the latter, we shouldn't really be getting reports, right? If she is truly leaving it up to him then she should be going with his decision. Which is why I think it's more the former in that they want whatever they can get extra.

I don't drink. So the tequila was all for her! Originally Posted by birdiemaker59

Right, and that's cool and all, but that doesn't change what's going on. Read above, I personally think you should have made it clear what was going on, else you're going to be paying for the extra stuff on top of session fee. I'm not saying you're right or wrong in this situation, I'm simply trying to clarify why this situation exists (edit: though admittedly my answer is quite slanted).

You thought it came from the session time, she didn't. To your other reply - her 'special' is amount/time. Not (amount - drank)/time. If you wanted that time, I'd assume the cost is the same regardless of what you went out of your way to help her out without aside from that.

Katrina where are you getting your info? I've never seen you Originally Posted by birdiemaker59

She can READ... Sweet treat isn't the only provider who has had similar experiences with you, also your own posts kinda mirror the whole attitude part.

Drinking with a client isn't the best idea especially the first time seeing them. I've found its best to turn up/party on my own time.

Kinda douche baggy to take it out of the fee. Im sure a majority of my clients aren't petty and would just decline my request if there was an issue with money.

Jules . What part of I don't drink do you not understand? I thought I was helping her out. I DIDN'T DRINK THE TEQUILA. She got drunk. Being with a drunk missing a tooth is not sexy!

I think u are also missing the point of what I meant... It's all good better luck next time right?

no. You called me a douche bag and I don't deserve it. I was nice, paid her more than the amount. What you are trying to say I don't get

If you were nice this wouldn't be the second public alert on you for the same behavior by two totally unrelated providers. I said your action was kinda douche baggy in my eyes.

I'm not taking sides at all as I said I don't think drinking during session is a good idea. Things can go too many different ways, plus tequila makes me crazy.

Drinking isn't really ever a good idea when meeting with someone and especially for the first time...never ends well! I hope all issues get resolved it's a new year lets have a great 2016 on the eccie board!

sounds like you are taking their sides. Sweet Treet's special was 120 for the half. The Tequila was $30 so I give her $100. I didn't drink any of the tequila. You do the math.
Besides I am the one who went to the store and delivered it!

To most gents 30bucks isn't a huge deal either way seems it's causing more trouble than it is worth in this case. You could have declined her request. There was clearly a misunderstanding there on both sides.

Hopefully everyone leaves the bad vibes in 2015 happy new year