Open carry from Jan 1st 2016... Who's ready ?

Sneaky Pete holster. Qualifies as concealed. Almost as easily accessed as OC holster.

McDonalds fast food restaurant is ready. They have their 30.07 (no open carry) signs up. Originally Posted by nu2

Does that include the "drive thru"?

Next thing you know they'll put up a "No Ski Mask" sign!

That is a really good question. I saw huge 30.07 signs on the doors at the McDonalds on Bissonnett. Didn't go though the drive though. Seems like a good question for the lawyers.

That is a really good question. I saw huge 30.07 signs on the doors at the McDonalds on Bissonnett. Didn't go though the drive though. Seems like a good question for the lawyers. Originally Posted by nu2

My question was a humor based one. Mickie D's is already losing money, so getting rid of another customer base is probably going to be difficult for them.

If the sign is on the "door" ... and the person doesn't get out of their vehicle and walk up to the door ... then they don't have "notice"! BTW: How many folks are going to walk up to the door, turn around and go back to their vehicle, place their weapon in a "secure" location in their vehicle, and return to enter the facility? Only BigMac addicts!

I can "travel" with a handgun in my vehicle whether I have a CHL or not.

Texas Penal Code § 47.15(b)(2) Effective January 1, 2016 (Same as before).

Any sidearm sightings yet?

Nope....only 30.07 signs

How many folks are going to walk up to the door, turn around and go back to their vehicle, place their weapon in a "secure" location in their vehicle, and return to enter the facility? Originally Posted by LexusLover

If I didn't have a way to conceal it, I absolutely would. Done it before with a 30.06 sign, why would a 30.07 be any different?

If I didn't have a way to conceal it, I absolutely would. Done it before with a 30.06 sign, why would a 30.07 be any different? Originally Posted by Wakeup

To eat at a McDonald's?

How many folks are going to walk up to the door, turn around and go back to their vehicle, place their weapon in a "secure" location in their vehicle, and return to enter the facility? Only BigMac addicts! Originally Posted by LexusLover

If I didn't have a way to conceal it, I absolutely would. Done it before with a 30.06 sign, why would a 30.07 be any different? Originally Posted by Wakeup

To eat at a McDonald's? Originally Posted by LexusLover

That way the bad guys know which vehicle to break into in order to get some quick money.

One of the problems with open carry...

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To eat at a McDonald's? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Of course. I'd do it at any other restaurant as well. Why does the restaurant name matter?

If I wish to enter an establishment and they have a valid 30.07 sign, and I have no way to conceal the handgun, then I'm required by law to return to my car, secure my weapon, and then return to the establishment.

What is confusing about that?

H.E.B., Randalls and Whole Foods are all going 30.07 according to local press. None are 30.06 that I know of. I know for sure HEB isn't.

Kroger has said they will abide by the law whatever it is. They don't think it is their place to influence policy so they have no signage and don't intend to post any. As an aside, I'm not sure how posting a sign influences policy. I think that's the verbiage they've come up with in support of the law without directly saying it. Whatever...

I mentioned grocery chains to put into my perspective some of the comments made about going back to the car.
I have an HEB nearby. I like HEB. It's my go to anywhere I happen to be in Texas. They don't post a 30.06 so I assume they are OK with my CC. If they did post a 30.06 then I would have a decision to make. Does the convenience of their proximity outweigh my need to CC? Add to that the fact that I just pulled my gun and placed it in my truck where someone very well could have seen me do it. I don't like leaving my gun in my truck. I've had one stolen from my truck before I even had the CC option. Cops get real nosy when you report that your gun was stolen along with other valuables especially when you can't immediately tell them everything they want to know about the gun like S/N. At least that was my one experience. Anyway, right now it may be more convenient to walk back to my truck although not very reassuring but we have a Kroger coming soon.
I would consider becoming a Kroger customer for the most part if HEB posts either a 30.06 or a 30.07 and Kroger doesn't. My assumption, flawed as it may be, is that they don't want "my kind" there. Given, or forced to make, a choice I will chose to spend my money where I feel most welcome and safest. Again, the desire not to drive 10 or 15 miles and 30 minutes out of my way currently skews my choice considerably.
My scenario is strictly hypothetical since HEB doesn't intend to post 30.06 signs that I know of. It was more to illustrate the broader discussion.

You may remember Target announcing their anti gun policy. I stayed away because of it but was curious to see if my local store had posted proper signage so I drove by. They have not posted any signs. Further research indicated they announced the policy to appease certain anti gun groups but never intended to enforce it. I've carried multiple times in my local target since then.
It's political bull shit like that which continually muddies the water.

One thing to keep in mind whether a private business has proper signage or not. It is a private business. They, the owners or management, have a right to ask you to leave and they don't owe you any reason for making such a request. You are legally compelled to obey their request or risk being charged with trespassing.

Boardman, by using a drop leg holster for open carry you will be able to easily get in and out of your car. A drop leg holster is mounted to your belt which is the requirement in the law. It will not get in the way of your seatbelt. Originally Posted by nu2

You may be technically correct. I'm not sure. I believe the intent of legislators was to prevent tactical drop leg holsters. I believe some Sheriffs and DA's have already weighed in on both sides. Some saying the law doesn't specifaically prevent it and others saying they could argue that the tactical holster isn't marketed as a "belt" holster and are confident they could win a conviction. I wouldn't want to be the one asking my attorney to make the "well, technically" argument to a jury. At any rate, I don't see a tactical drop leg holster being any more comfortable with my 92FS for the activities I stated previously than a OTWB holster for carrying my 1911. I just think it would annoy the hell out of me as it rubbed against the console in my truck and got caught on shit as I crawled in and out.

It also looks like you are seeking attention or wish to be perceived as Billy Joe Badass to carry with a drop leg holster if you ask me and inviting scrutiny. Moreso than with a OTWB hoslter anyway.

Wakeup is a far better person to comment but I believe drop leg holsters are used by military because they are carrying so much other shit on their belts/torsos that their is no room for it and since it is a secondary weapon to their rifle the unfettered access at far arm's reach is prudent. A civilian isn't going to be in that predicament.

We use them because we don't have access to our belts when we're wearing body armor. Anyone who has worn a full set of Interceptor will tell you that a belt holster doesn't work. Even with the LBT plate carriers we used with CJSOTF, there was very little access to a belt, let alone being able to draw a belt holstered weapon.

You either make room on your chest to mount a holster there, or you use a drop leg for your secondary. Personal preference. I carried a sling that supported my rifle across the front of my body when I released it, so a chest rig wasn't practical because the rifle impeded access to my secondary. The guys who used single point Wolf Hooks used chest rigs because when they released their rifle, it's hung down the side of their body, impeding access to the drop leg.

Civilians wear it to be tacticool...no other reason...and yeah, drop legs suck riding in vehicles with bucket seats. Thought riding in a Suburban was going to be cool compared to a HMMWV...right up until I got in it with a drop leg on...

For me, the politics are irrelevant. If I want to go to a store, and they don't allow me to carry, I leave it secured in the car. If I can carry I will. I won't drive out of my way to go somewhere where I can carry. Carrying doesn't make me feel safer, and it isn't a political statement.

P.S.-I was shocked when I went to my fitting for my Armani suit. I specifically asked if they could tailor it around a shoulder holster for my Walther CCP, and the tailor was more than happy to. He said he had done it several times. Now I have no reason to fear for not properly concealing the bulge that, while harder to notice, is still noticeable to me.

I pulled out my drop leg holster from my M.P. days and it is perfect for my car because the center console is much lower than the bucket seat. The only time I would ever open carry would be in my car when I am driving by myself, not to be tacticool, but because it works better than my current method.