Ref's given ONLY if a hobbyist gives a review?

You put it out there. I was making an observation. Honestly, if I were a gentleman caller, I would see that you were having a fun time over there by yourself with your "tool" and move along. To each their own.

You put it out there. I was making an observation. Honestly, if I were a gentleman caller, I would see that you were having a fun time over there by yourself with your "tool" and move along. To each their own. Originally Posted by charlotteblue

Quit reaching old lady. At this point, does it look like I give an ounce of fuck on what people say about my sig.? Its still there right? Oh OK..

We all know you don't care. For anyone. Providers, clients, and most importantly, YOURSELF. My comment on your Sig pic wasn't a dig.

It was an observation.

I will quote the old and wise sage Dr.Phil..."We treat people how to treat us." This was a hard learned lesson for myself. Honestly, conduct your business however you see fit. If for you it is all about $$$ more power to you. I hope you are saving and working your way up to your dream.

I am older, 36, and I can promise you I know a whole hell of a lot more than I knew when I was in my 20's. Did I gain that knowledge the easy way? Nope! I had a selfish ass attitude and thought everything was about me and my needs.

Guess what?! Reality sucks and will hit you hard as hell in the face.

You, are welcome to conduct yourself in any manner you see fit. And...since you say you are in your early 20's I am assuming you are pretty clueless (as I was). I would highly suggest that you save yourself the trouble and start to listen more than you talk. Honestly, a lot of the things you say don't make it seem as if you are a mature or educated lady.

Since you care so much,

No I'm still the same person everywhere i go, just different policies I like to set. Why? Again, because I can. there's nothing your ass can do or tell me about my business. Originally Posted by Nina the Dicknapper

Now that think about it, I fucking love the way you do business. You go girl. :fistbump:

The first thing I thought of when I saw a policy like that, is that's the only way she chooses to remember who her clients were.


We all have reasons for what we do, that one comes across with a bite, though.

Okay...I got to admit. I'm kind of pissed. I had a provider refuse to give me a ref for a hobbyist because he didn't leave her a review. I personally think it is a selfish and rude policy but she is free to run her business that way she wants.

So what are your thoughts? Do you think a provider should only give her a review (her view on things)?

Me, personally, if the guy is cool and respectful, I will give him a ref (for 3 months and then he need to find a more recent provider than me to vouch for him) without or without a review. Originally Posted by Kayleehotchick

sorry, if you are going to want me to be a reference to you i can NOT give you one if i don't remember you, or you don't do review...

selfish or not, i couldn't in good conscience say i knew this person with out knowing if i really saw him

I think that maybe pretty damn close to blackmail because the hobbyist would feel compelled to write a good review even if the session was subpar. That doesn't do anyone any good. Originally Posted by DarkeyKong

the review doesn't HAVE to be a good one, but it does show testament that it did happen

OK???? I don't force anyone to come see me. You make that choice on your own.

Them hard earned dollars are spent to shove your cock down my throat. You get what u want & I get what I want.. Originally Posted by Nina the Dicknapper

Reviews are not any sort of proof whatsoever that a legit session took place. Anyone can write a review on any provider. Even if the provider says she never saw the reviewer it will usually (9/10) stay attached to her showcase. Its up to the provider to state she never saw them by posting a notice in coed. Most of the time, if it's a positive review, providers won't even say anything.

There are tons of fake reviews out there.

I always request a telephone number to search when asked for reference. I search it on Google voice and it will show whether or not I gave that person directions to my incall and thanked them after the session. Easy.

Just because someone reviews a provider DOES NOT mean he saw her.

If I have vetted someone via references or whatever, I add them to my ECCIE buddy list. That way I know I would see them and would recommend them or provide a reference. I actually have people who have reviewed me that I would give a horrible reference. But, ladies reply to their ISOs on the regular. I never get a reference request.

MORE important. HOBBYIST need to know this that way you both will be happy in the end. Originally Posted by Kayleehotchick

Awww thanks.

AS a hobbyist, I would be leery of believing reviews about providers who require reviews in exchange for ref's. TO me, it puts pressure to say "yes" even when he want to say no.

But hey, as long as a hobbyist knows he HAS TO GIVE a review if he wants a ref's, all is good I guess. Originally Posted by Kayleehotchick

I'm betting they are Not writing reviews because they don't want the world to know they saw her to begin with, plan and simple!
She is only hurting herself because the line can't be that long!!
So now she will have to post more poor tasting gifs to generate new clients because she mad the possible return clients upset because they couldn't use her for a ref....smh....bad business all away around Originally Posted by 8701

this is more then, oh i don't like this... it's "i pissy because this girl wouldn't give an okay for a guy because i don't like her policy"

so all the shade is not needed... but of course no one want's to say that so i will.... it's bullshit ... you run your buisness your way, and we will run it ours, those who accept will see us do the review and be refrences...

it's just like if a guy wants me to be a refrence and he hasn't seen me in almost a year... if i can't remember what your dick tastes like it's not happening

Reviews are not any sort of proof whatsoever that a legit session took place. Anyone can write a review on any provider. Even if the provider says she never saw the reviewer it will usually (9/10) stay attached to her showcase. Its up to the provider to state she never saw them by posting a notice in coed. Most of the time, if it's a positive review, providers won't even say anything.

There are tons of fake reviews out there.

I always request a telephone number to search when asked for reference. I search it on Google voice and it will show whether or not I gave that person directions to my incall and thanked them after the session. Easy.

Just because someone reviews a provider DOES NOT mean he saw her. Originally Posted by thathottnurse

that's true and i agree... but then in that case you WOULDN'T provide a refrence for someone you did not see.... because that's not only stupid but it's dangerous

Since you care so much,

No I'm still the same person everywhere i go, just different policies I like to set. Why? Again, because I can. there's nothing your ass can do or tell me about my business. Originally Posted by Nina the Dicknapper

Now Nina, I will tell you to be careful the way you talk to TFN, especially if you disagree with her on anything. She will not only post whore you to death, but also may even put out an alert on you, best to just ignore her.

Anyway, there is no hobby manual that says what a provider's qualifications are for giving references, that is up to each and every provider. As long as you do not give a reference to a guy who writes a fabricated review of you and did not really see you to obtain a reference. Other than it may hurt a guy who has seen only you and chose not review and he wants his next visit to be with a provider who does not see guys with no references, then I do not see a problem with your policy.

The first thing I thought of when I saw a policy like that, is that's the only way she chooses to remember who her clients were.


We all have reasons for what we do, that one comes across with a bite, though. Originally Posted by FireKitten

bingo

it's just like not giving refrences because you you don't do them: is that selfish?

honestly, i do not even request refrences besides from my partner platinum... because honestly she's one of only ladies i trust with my life on this site beyond E.Whispers, and that's because she has proven her mantle

Now Nina, I will tell you to be careful the way you talk to TFN, especially if you disagree with her on anything. She will post whore you to death and may even put out an alert on you, best to just ignore her.

Anyway, there is no where in the hobby manual that says what a provider's qualifications are for giving references, that is up to each and every provider. As long as you do not give a reference to a guy who writes a fabricated review of you and did not really see you to obtain a reference. Other than it may hurt a guy who has seen only you and did not review, then I do not see a problem with your philosophy. Originally Posted by davidfree986

Oh she's met her match.

A reference is a privilege. There's no where stating that I HAVE to give out references. Just because I decided to run my business different its wrong?

THn you really need to take a chill pill. Your way is correct & mines isn't?! Get over yourself. You can bitch & moan all you want on what I do but at the end of the day you just wasting time cause ain't nothing gone change. Its funny though