Leave takes the Lead in England!!!

The Establishment is not going let a little thing like the will of the people get in their way. The U.K. will not leave the EU. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

They are bastards who will rule over us one way or the other. At least they got publicly humiliated in front of their elite friends.

They are bastards who will rule over us one way or the other. At least they got publicly humiliated in front of their elite friends. Originally Posted by DSK

The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet! She's probably screaming bloody murder at Bill!

Scotland feels they can block the deal by not agreeing to leave

The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet! She's probably screaming bloody murder at Bill! Originally Posted by LexusLover

I certainly hope so....he deserves it!

Scotland feels they can block the deal by not agreeing to leave Originally Posted by BigLouie

Obama lied about Obamacare, remember...what are you going to do about that one?

Scotland feels they can block the deal by not agreeing to leave Originally Posted by BigLouie

I don't think they have the votes to that.

The Establishment is not going let a little thing like the will of the people get in their way. The U.K. will not leave the EU. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

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If ever the voice (and vote) of the people was scarier to fuck with in the Great Britain, I don't recall it. UK has had a long history of taking things in stride regardless of the challenge level. As the elders have seen that civil approach being taken advantage of, they have clearly expressed their disapproval to those in power. The last thing parliament wants right now is to reverse a decision those elders drove to victory at the voting stations.

Scotland feels they can block the deal by not agreeing to leave Originally Posted by BigLouie

don't bet on it. what right? tell us smarty guy. yep didn't think so.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...it-veto-rights

Two days after the shocking Brexit result, the nightmares for the Remain camp - which refuses to accept a democratic reality - will not go away. As a result, it has gotten to the farcical point where disgruntled Remain voters have launched a petition demanding a second EU referendum, having clearly forgotten that it was the dramatically low turnout among their ranks that allowed the Leave vote to have such a knockout victory. To be sure this is a well-known technocrat approach: keep voting and revoting until the desired outcome is finally achieved.

However, while these are merely desperation antics by a group who will do almost anything to hang on to the benefits presented to them by the status quo, regardless of the will of the majority, a curious observation has emerged courtesy of Jim Fitzpatrick, who points out that according to the 28-page government Command Paper laying out "The Process of withdrawing from the European Union", which goes through the infamous Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union (TEU), the first time in history when Article 50 will be invoked, there may actually be a hurdle to the actual Brexit process, in the form of a Scottish and Northern Irish veto to Britain's separation from the EU. To wit:

The role of the devolved legislatures in implementing the withdrawal agreement:

We asked Sir David whether he thought the Scottish Parliament would have to give its consent to measures extinguishing the application of EU law in Scotland. He noted that such measures would entail amendment of section 29 of the Scotland Act 1998, which binds the Scottish Parliament to act in a manner compatible with EU law, and he therefore believed that the Scottish Parliament’s consent would be required. He could envisage certain political advantages being drawn from not giving consent.

We note that the European Communities Act is also entrenched in the devolution settlements of Wales and Northern Ireland. Though we have taken no evidence on this specific point, we have no reason to believe that the requirement for legislative consent for its repeal would not apply to all the devolved nations.

The role of the devolved legislatures in implementing the withdrawal agreement:

We asked Sir David whether he thought the Scottish Parliament would have to give its consent to measures extinguishing the application of EU law in Scotland. He noted that such measures would entail amendment of section 29 of the Scotland Act 1998, which binds the Scottish Parliament to act in a manner compatible with EU law, and he therefore believed that the Scottish Parliament’s consent would be required. He could envisage certain political advantages being drawn from not giving consent.

We note that the European Communities Act is also entrenched in the devolution settlements of Wales and Northern Ireland. Though we have taken no evidence on this specific point, we have no reason to believe that the requirement for legislative consent for its repeal would not apply to all the devolved nations.

To be sure, this is merely an interpretation and not a legalistic prescription. The basis of this opinion is as follows:


In February 2016, the Government published a Command Paper entitled The process for withdrawing from the European Union, the findings of which have been widely challenged by those campaigning to leave the EU. We wanted to have as clear an understanding as possible of the process whereby the UK would withdraw from the EU, should the electorate so decide on 23 June. We therefore held a public evidence session with two experts in the field of EU law: Sir David Edward KCMG, QC, PC, FRSE, a former Judge of the Court of Justice of the European Union and Professor Emeritus at the School of Law, University of Edinburgh; and Professor Derrick Wyatt QC, Emeritus Professor of Law, Oxford University, and also of Brick Court Chambers.


So is one interpretation of Article 50 on the potential stumbling block behind Brexit sufficient to derail the process? We doubt it: David Cameron has already resigned while Europe has activated the machinery for a British separation (even if it means keeping the UK as an "associated member" as Germany desperately needs the UK market to keep its own economy afloat). Then again, anything is possible and we are certain that thousands of lawyers are working feverishly at this moment to preserve any optionality the Remain group may still have before too much time has passed and enough procedures have been implemented making a return to the status quo impossible.

Further complicating matters is the announcement by Scotland's first minister Nicola Sturgeon who said that a second Scottish independence vote 'highly likely' adding that it was "democratically unacceptable" that Scotland faced the prospect of being taken out of the EU against its will. She said the Scottish government would begin preparing legislation to enable another independence vote.


Whatever the outcome, it is certain that the status quo elites, who already lost hundreds of billions in equity "value" as a result of Brexit, will stop at nothing to prevent the existing globalized system from being deconstructed before their very eyes due to the "unexpected" arrival of democratic forces which demand real change. This will surely mean spending egregious amounts trying to find legalistic loopholes, and doing everything in their power to delay and prevent any incremental steps.



All of that is perfectly expected. That said we wonder if the same elitist minorities, which have already shown boundless disdain for the voice of the majority, will keep their interventionism within a peaceful framework because the last thing the world needs is for a tiny majority to start yet another global war to distract from their accelerating loss of influence and power.


still waiting on all those links about "lies".

even if they vote to leave the commonwealth it won't automatically get them back in the EU.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/26/scotla...rexit-5967168/

These are the men who sacrificed their "blood, toil, tears and sweat" for their country:

Grieving family reveal war veteran's dying wish was for them to post his Leave vote because 'he was fighting for this country until the end'

Able Seaman Leonard Moore, who was a submariner during the Second World War, marked a cross in the Leave the European Union box just before being taken into hospital.

His family last night said it was his final act before he died because he loved Britain.

Read more: (Daily Mail)

BATTLE OF BRITAIN WWII vets plead with Brits ‘don’t give away what we fought for’ urging voters to back Brexit

“We never imagined 71 years ago that our country would be in this position.”

“60 per cent of our laws are now made by faceless Brussels bureaucrats who are unelected, and the expanding EU military tells us that this is far more than just a trade bloc.

“Before you the British People cast your vote in the referendum on Thursday, we want you to know, that’s not what we fought for!”

“Can you imagine how upsetting it is to us veterans that today we see our own politicians, and indeed our own Prime Minister, misleading the British people to keep us in the European Union?

“The EU is not democratic, and indeed the whole of Europe which we liberated together with our Allies during the Second World War, needs to know that.”

(The Sun)

World War II veterans urge voters to Brexit to save democracy

BRITISH heroes who fought to save democracy in the Second World War urged voters yesterday to “save Europe again” from unelected Brussels rule by backing Brexit....

Mr Williams said that “too many people” had died for democracy in this country to lose it to the EU now.

(The Express)

Former military officers join Brexit campaign

(The Guardian)

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If ever the voice (and vote) of the people was scarier to fuck with in the Great Britain, I don't recall it. UK has had a long history of taking things in stride regardless of the challenge level. As the elders have seen that civil approach being taken advantage of, they have clearly expressed their disapproval to those in power. The last thing parliament wants right now is to reverse a decision those elders drove to victory at the voting stations. Originally Posted by Luv2Munch

I think trying to derail the vote in this case could lead to civil war in England.

They should be very careful because that would really spook the markets, which they lamely claim is their concern. Their real concern is loss of power.

The more people who line up against this thing, the more and more I like it.

Although I am not a fan of our current President, Mr. Obama, I thought the speech he gave accepting the vote from the British people was excellent in both tone and content.

Although I am not a fan of our current President, Mr. Obama, I thought the speech he gave accepting the vote from the British people was excellent in both tone and content. Originally Posted by DSK

He didn't write it, and he didn't believe it.

UK is suffering voters remorse..

He didn't write it, and he didn't believe it. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I don't doubt it.

He didn't write it, and he didn't believe it. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

+100 ....

It flew in the face of his inappropriate personal remarks before the voting.

He even suggested the UK would be "at the back" of the pack if they did!

This screws his grand scheme of "globalization" before he's gone .... his legacy!

The UK has the money and tenacity with a history of international trading activity!

That's why we're HERE! (Not Obaminable ... the rest of us!!!!).