obamacare missing something

No if you provide your own insurance or prove you don't need insurance because of wealth there is no penalty. Originally Posted by royamcr

There's effectively no "penalty" now anyway....just like there is "effectively" a prohibition against people from certain designated countries obtaining documents giving them permission to enter the U.S.

The market is free for some, and others pay out the ass for it. At least the ones that never paid a dime are now required to pay something.

Liberals don't want a free market to work .... but their biggest problem is they don't have the balls (or the Constitution) to regulate the market to maintain costs and premiums ... and if they pass "National Healthcare" they will not be able to cover the "costs and premiums" with taxpayers' dollars without regulating them!

I'm reminded of what I heard a politician say YEARS AGO regarding a series of incidents involving citizens around in the area, and this is a paraphrase and vague to protect the guilty:

"If this shit continues there won't be a politician in this county who will get a campaign contribution!!!!"

The Liberals have to "regulate" the costs, products, and services of ...

members of the AMA
pharmaceutical companies
hospitals and clinics

They can't and won't even if the constitution allowed them. Originally Posted by LexusLover

The market is free for some, and others pay out the ass for it. At least the ones that never paid a dime are now required to pay something. Originally Posted by royamcr

Basically yes, if you are family of 4 and make less than $16,000 you would get Medicaid that was signed into law by LBJ in 1965 (no premium).

If you are family of 4 and make less than $24,000 you would get the "Expanded Medicaid" (in the 31 states that accepted the money from the Fed). No premium here either.

If you are family of 4 and make greater than $24,000 and less $94,000 and in the individual market you qualify for a subsidy from the government on a sliding scale, to help pay the premium. (Note: you have to go to healthcare.gov to get a subsidy, you just can't call up a health insurance broker).

If you are a family of 4 and make greater than $94,000 you do not qualify for a subsidy.

If you get health insurance from your employer you don't qualify for a subsidy either. Note: Group insurance from the employer will always be cheaper than health insurance sold in the individual market because the risk pools have less risk. The spikes in premiums in some states are due to the unbalanced risk pools. Sick people signing up for health insurance in the individual market that were not allowed to before the ACA law was passed plus low risk people not buying or getting an exemption.

Basically yes, if you are family of 4 and make less than $16,000 you would get Medicaid that was signed into law by LBJ in 1965 (no premium). Originally Posted by flghtr65

You mean the Democrats passed a law that discriminates against poor people in the health care coverage they may obtain? That will certainly help the Republicans.

No wonder poor people are moving to Texas! Want better coverage!

^^ lowered to 6000 , so they are really wanting people to work ?

What a dick!

^^ lowered to 6000 , so they are really wanting people to work ? Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Yep! People with jobs grow "independent" of the Government, and actually begin to resent the Government taking part of their earnings for frivilous shit! ... Like supporting leeches like YourWrong who surfaced again after months of coloring in a book and petting a comfort animal while blubbering and sniveling like the baby he is.