Providers that ARE NOT reference friendly

What we really need here is a reference area in guys profile where a girl can give her approval on gent's profile if she wishes... saves 100's or 1000's of calls site wide yearly.. Originally Posted by bfeguytx

Preferred411.

I heard from many ladies the OP is the worst for giving out references, so why start a threAD if she's guilty herself? They don't want her drama so they'll sit back laughing at the hypocrisy. Don't be scared and post ladies

I heard from many ladies the OP is the worst for giving out references, so why start a threAD if she's guilty herself? They don't want her drama so they'll sit back laughing at the hypocrisy. Don't be scared and post ladies Originally Posted by BLM69

Are you alright?

Are you alright? Originally Posted by Adrienne Baptiste

I'm freaking great, how's your week/month going? How them tricks treating you?

Are you alright? Originally Posted by Adrienne Baptiste

I put his ass on ignore a while back but since u quoted it I see he is still trolling me with ridiculous lies looking for attention, lol isn't this considered cyber stalking?

Quality clients don't pay attention to trolls or the latest
drama on Eccie.

It's really sad as he seems to have become more and more bitter over time. I hope whatever he is going through gets better for him.

I put his ass on ignore a while back but since u quoted it I see he is still trolling me with ridiculous lies looking for attention, lol isn't this considered cyber stalking?

Quality clients don't pay attention to trolls or the latest
drama on Eccie.

It's really sad as he seems to have become more and more bitter over time. I hope whatever he is going through gets better for him. Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

I'm off ignore now lol, funny how members become "trolls" once you don't see eye to eye with someone, To any mod that can read my PM's or I can forward them and will verify my "lies" in here with the parties involved to remain anonymous, please do so

Look in the mirror before calling me bitter, I'm extra good over here and about me going through some things? I don't work here remember. I'll let you think about that one, put me on ignore for real this time

Sorry for my late reply I just saw the last responses.

Nina only gives references to guys that write reviews and she's said that publicly which is cool we are all entitled to run our business as we see fit and at least she is up front about her policy.

It's just getting worse and worse with Providers straight up ignoring the reference requests... at least the ghetto bitch last week told me to fuck off lol

Another lady who I provided a ref to in the past ignored a reference request I sent out the other day it's taking everything in me not to blast these chicks but karma is a bitch and I always make sure I let the guys know that they are ignoring reference requests so they won't waste their time using them or seeing them again. They are just hurting their own business

That's why I like p411 so much I don't have to chase down references and miss out on meeting a good guy due to a jealous cunty provider.

Pretty soon I will be changing my screening policy since I've missed out on so many appointments lately due to this crap. Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

Name the provider who told you to do your own check so we know she doesn't participate in our info exchange. Thought that's the whole point of this site.

If one of her clients wanted to see you and she wouldn't verify him, I sure any potential clientele will look in another direction.

I've seen it go down as follows:

1. Says they never saw the guy.
2. Doesn't respond at all.
3. Responds, but contacts guy to give a sweeter deal Originally Posted by Grace Preston

When they say that they never saw the guy, do you tell the guy?

Happened to me and it was a simple mix up. I contacted the provider I used a reference and it all worked out.

I really think item 3 is just low class.


If I want to see you, Grace, I want to see you. Another provider offering me a better deal doesn't negate that. I might take them up on their deal later or even before if schedules worked out that way, but I still would have an urge to see you, that can only be satified by seeing you, no matter who I fuck before or after. A better deal from them doesn't affect me making an appointment with you.

I'm a dirty slut, afterall.

In fact, the best way for them to get repeat business from me, would be to verify me with you.

I would be upset if I found out they said they hadn't seen me before but then PMd me offering me a deal.

I will say every time I have asked Jules for a reference before I let a provider see me she responded promptly and with honest info. She has always been a great help.

Even tho I'm from Cal but visit TX a lot
I have no issues giving out reference at all
have this one guy on here gives me a refes and I'v not seen him a like year and a half , so when I get asked about him , I Say I'v not see him in over a year
he was fine then bah bah .. finely the other day I sent him a PM asking him to stop giving me as his refes ., buy now you should seen others, by now to give
I was nice about it tho well kinda ,,, lol

ladies best way to ask me for a refes by PM or email,
my work number is off when im not working
.. and I can get to my emails by my RW number to witch I have with me at all times ,

p411 I still will send out a refes check on you .
you can have 100 Okays I still will ask the last 3 ladies that given you OKAYS about you ..

Allow me to play Devil's Advocate here, some may understand, yet not agree to this:

My (extra) income from this NEVER depends on the word of a stranger much less a woman who I have never met before conducting illegal business. No, we are not all "friends". This is illegal business. I am a reference friendly companion, and as THN noted before, I respond to references promptly and always respond professionally. When gents send me their references, I sometimes send them a link to my screening form also known as my "Reservation Form". I do this in case none of the references respond in enough time (or at all). By all means, It's not the references fault, and like clients, I am not entitled to the references time (hell, they could be at work, with family, a multi-hour, court, none of your/my business) because I don't want to (learn how to) do my own homework or *develop* a screening process not involving other parties regarding me and intimacy with a gentleman. Not only that, I am very discreet. This means I don't want providers and companions knowing who I am fucking... or who the gentleman is about to fuck for that matter, *counting my pocket and possessive over *his wallet.

References definitely do make screening easy, especially when the gentleman has no online presence or even a couple reviews to "prove"he is safe (which doesn't). But again as mentioned before, what may be polite, safe and generous to one companion, may be the polar opposite to another. That's why I feel it's IMPERATIVE for *professional* companions to develop their own screening process fitting their business and personal preferences/Personality/needs. Can't do it? Join an agency. Just like references, they do all the redundant screening for you! Just expect to split your money

In addition to regarding WHY some ladies are not reference friendly because she intends to have the client for "herself. There are even more professional companions who simply don't feel it fair that they took their time out their day to screen him through her lengthy screening process or Database Subscription she *pays for just to tell another woman a simple "yay or nay". She gets a new sugar daddy, or generous and consistent regular - you get a " thanks" and a warm fuzzy feeling inside - if that.

Keep in mind that we sell our time and it takes time to give and respond to a reference from looking up *accurate records. It also takes time to compose these records in case another escort inquires. On the other hand sometimes I don't like asking for references or contacting references when they are provided in case the gentleman does not follow through with an appointment. Not only have I wasted my time screening, but I've wasted the references time in responding to me and going back in her records and notes to see if he is safe.

Do you really think I'd pass on a pleasurable experience and profitable opportunity because so and so provider happens to have her family day the same day I want to screw a man's brains out for my mortgage and need a response within the next couple of hours?? Nope. I'm not the one, the two, or three. As a seller, it's up to me to close the deal.

I would be living in a fantasy world expecting another Criminal (prostitution is illegal thus making buyers and sellers criminals) who lives 500 miles away to care about my safety. It's naïve. If somebody is already doing something underhanded and illegal for survival or red bottoms, I don't expect them to have any moral obligation to me, again that would be naïve.

Being reference friendly doesn't make one less of a criminal than another. It's simply inconvenient.


#Evolve

Affectionately,
Eva J Damita

PS - I apologize for the lengthy post and appreciate those who took the time to read it. I made sure for those who did read it, they didn't waste 2 minutes of their life reading BS

Allow me to play Devil's Advocate here, some may understand, yet not agree to this:

My (extra) income from this NEVER depends on the word of a stranger much less a woman who I have never met before conducting illegal business. No, we are not all "friends". This is illegal business. I am a reference friendly companion, and as THN noted before, I respond to references promptly and always respond professionally. When gents send me their references, I sometimes send them a link to my screening form also known as my "Reservation Form". I do this in case none of the references respond in enough time (or at all). By all means, It's not the references fault, and like clients, I am not entitled to the references time (hell, they could be at work, with family, a multi-hour, court, none of your/my business) because I don't want to (learn how to) do my own homework or *develop* a screening process not involving other parties regarding me and intimacy with a gentleman. Not only that, I am very discreet. This means I don't want providers and companions knowing who I am fucking... or who the gentleman is about to fuck for that matter, *counting my pocket and possessive over *his wallet.

References definitely do make screening easy, especially when the gentleman has no online presence or even a couple reviews to "prove"he is safe (which doesn't). But again as mentioned before, what may be polite, safe and generous to one companion, may be the polar opposite to another. That's why I feel it's IMPERATIVE for *professional* companions to develop their own screening process fitting their business and personal preferences/Personality/needs. Can't do it? Join an agency. Just like references, they do all the redundant screening for you! Just expect to split your money

In addition to regarding WHY some ladies are not reference friendly because she intends to have the client for "herself. There are even more professional companions who simply don't feel it fair that they took their time out their day to screen him through her lengthy screening process or Database Subscription she *pays for just to tell another woman a simple "yay or nay". She gets a new sugar daddy, or generous and consistent regular - you get a " thanks" and a warm fuzzy feeling inside - if that.

Keep in mind that we sell our time and it takes time to give and respond to a reference from looking up *accurate records. It also takes time to compose these records in case another escort inquires. On the other hand sometimes I don't like asking for references or contacting references when they are provided in case the gentleman does not follow through with an appointment. Not only have I wasted my time screening, but I've wasted the references time in responding to me and going back in her records and notes to see if he is safe.

Do you really think I'd pass on a pleasurable experience and profitable opportunity because so and so provider happens to have her family day the same day I want to screw a man's brains out for my mortgage and need a response within the next couple of hours?? Nope. I'm not the one, the two, or three. As a seller, it's up to me to close the deal.

I would be living in a fantasy world expecting another Criminal (prostitution is illegal thus making buyers and sellers criminals) who lives 500 miles away to care about my safety. It's naïve. If somebody is already doing something underhanded and illegal for survival or red bottoms, I don't expect them to have any moral obligation to me, again that would be naïve.

Being reference friendly doesn't make one less of a criminal than another. It's simply inconvenient.


#Evolve

Affectionately,
Eva J Damita

PS - I apologize for the lengthy post and appreciate those who took the time to read it. I made sure for those who did read it, they didn't waste 2 minutes of their life reading BS Originally Posted by Eva Damita

What a great realistic post, finally some honesty around here

Eva - before I call bullshit on your post, and really am not that impressed by your website and complete illusion of being better than everyone with your "Extraordinary" experience...

It appears that you do the EXACT SAME screening as all of us lower class hookers. (And yes, you are a hooker as well, being just as much a criminal as the rest. The difference between a criminal and a typical citizen, is that a criminal has gotten caught.)

Here's the screening portion from Eva's website:



You aren't asking for their job and work number, or their personal number and real name, so in all actuality, you are screening by the same method as all of us.

Yeah, good on you if you have a screener you want to pay out of your pocket (and the gents, obviously based on your rates) to verify clients, and possibly have two incalls locally...but in my eyes you're not much better than the rest of us 'average' hookers.

I think you need to get off your high horse for a minute and take a moment to see it is the same thing as what we are doing for our screening process.

BLM - is that enough honesty for you? Did you bother to even check her website to see how she screens?

And just something I noticed, your font is hardly readable for the links one should click on your homepage when you first go to your website. The white on the light background needs some kind of shading or something.
Btw - that advice is free of charge.

Oh, and I see you are using "jot form" for your process. Unless they give you their real name and possibly their address, it will not search the info you are wanting. It's a form of a background check. I use it at work to verify ages of people by looking at the date issued of their social security number.

I'm not sure you want to advertise that you are using a form of a background check to verify a client.

But who am I to tell another provider how to run their business.

Just because this is not your 'main source of income' and that it is "extra" income for you, doesn't make you any better than the rest of us.

Preferred411. Originally Posted by Adrienne Baptiste

But, we should be able to do that here, yes??????