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The "civilian" part mystically evaporated ... please continue Jazz! I see someone in Pennsylvania training with one hand ... i.e. his weak hand even.

Jazz ... please keep it up. You're making yourself look silly. Originally Posted by LexusLover

LMAO! That’s what you’re going on about? I said I hadn’t seen one, not that they didn’t exist. Check your reading comprehension, please.

Now please address the issues at hand. Where did I say “gun” in the fashion you chose to criticize? Who mentioned waivers? How do you back up your claim that every LE agency in the country requires 1 handed shooting when it appears to be clearly contradicted in the only state I bothered to check? Where did I claim to be “an expert on all things firearm training”?

Or you can just continue to be evasive, which is exactly what I expect.

Now please address the issues at hand. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

I did and even provided a photo from Pennsylvania to show you're a liar! Now you want to morph the point and attempt to modify what you lied about....your qualifications to ridicule someone for the way he is holding a pistol with one hand ... even though he his holding something with his other hand ....!

Have you learned yet how to piss by holding your "gun" with one hand?

I can understand why you want to change the subject, but you can't! Own it!

Oh .. and Jazzy I just wanted you to know that I'm gearing up for another project, so don't interpret what you don't know and "assume" that I am hiding from your obvious deficiencies reflected in your posting of shit you don't know anything about, because you haven't seen it, although you boast on Eccie about seeing that which you haven't seen!

That's part of what I do for a living and have longer than you've lived.

It's apparent.

There will be no accountability , because its the guberment

I did and even provided a photo from Pennsylvania to show you're a liar!

The photo does nothing to prove your claim. It’s a course anyone can do for $275 and has nothing to do with LE.

your qualifications to ridicule someone for the way he is holding a pistol with one hand

That was someone else, try’n keep up.

Have you learned yet how to piss by holding your "gun" with one hand?

Again with the “gun” bs? You’re yet to point out where this was said the first time ( because it wasn’t).

I just wanted you to know that I'm gearing up for another project

AA meeting, right?

All just as I expected, evasive.

Jazz reminds me of some of the reviews around ....

Reviewer: "She had the biggest breasts I have ever seen"!

Later in the critical thread: "Well, I didn't say I had seen any other tits"!

Jazz ... Does "AA" stand for "Assholes Anonymous"?

You really do need to grow up. In Pennsylvania ...

Jaz, lex, you guys need to stop bitchin'. lol.

Jaz, lex, you guys need to stop bitchin'. lol. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

I'm not "bitchin" ... you really need to start from the beginning ... a know-thing, who would be Jazz, pretends to know it all, and reveals his basic ignorance ... then starts diverting attention away from his flawed BS. That is one thing wrong with the internet and a lot wrong with Eccie...particularly in this Forum.

And now he's flailing around making accusations against me that is a board violation ... with impunity. More flawed thinking by him.

To remind you, because he wants to bury it ... HE POSTED:

I’ve never seen a trainer, military or civilian, who trains people to fire one handed.

When I'm on a project I work 50-60 hours a week. He apparently has a lot of time on his hands running around investigating "civilian" firing range training ... so he can fluff on the internet.

Calling someone out on Eccie for their bullshit isn't "BITCHING"! So, in about 10-15 minutes I proved I know more about "civilian" firearms training IN PENNSYLVANIA than he does!!!

He’s a hero. Sad more insurrectionists weren’t shot. They shoulda opened colors at the first breach. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Well you might get your wish because this sort of thing will most likely happen again and again. When there are people who don't do the right thing bad things will happen.

.. When there are people who don't do the right thing bad things will happen. Originally Posted by Levianon17

Yes!

Just want to be on record predicting we will never see anything like Jan. 6th ever again, so take down the fences, send any guardsmen home, relax, have a beer, it's a one and done.

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I can understand why you want to change the subject, but you can't! Own it!

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Not trying to prove who's right or wrong but...
In my CHL class I believe most if not all parts of the shooting qualification was done with two hands. The instructor was active police with 20 year experience.

However the officer said that the reality was the shooting test was mostly unnecessary. "I don't want you shooting someone who is running 20 feet away. What's the most likely scenario is you will need to pull your gun out and shoot it in one motion with one hand. (Demo'd) The target will be 3 feet away." He also said to empty out all the bullets in the gun until you sure the threat is dead. That way you are the only witness. (seriously)

Just want to be on record predicting we will never see anything like Jan. 6th ever again, so take down the fences, send any guardsmen home, relax, have a beer, it's a one and done. Originally Posted by HedonistForever

I disagree. We've had 20 years since 9/11 and they finally instituted the exempt list.

The govt, especially the Dims, are scared. They are pulling people from states away who barely set foot on the Capitol lawn. The intimidation isn't over.

Not trying to prove who's right or wrong but...
In my CHL class I believe most if not all parts of the shooting qualification was done with two hands. The instructor was active police with 20 year experience.

However the officer said that the reality was the shooting test was mostly unnecessary. "I don't want you shooting someone who is running 20 feet away. What's the most likely scenario is you will need to pull your gun out and shoot it in one motion with one hand. (Demo'd) The target will be 3 feet away." He also said to empty out all the bullets in the gun until you sure the threat is dead. That way you are the only witness. (seriously)

I disagree. We've had 20 years since 9/11 and they finally instituted the exempt list.

The govt, especially the Dims, are scared. They are pulling people from states away who barely set foot on the Capitol lawn. The intimidation isn't over. Originally Posted by gnadfly

i've had 2 CHL classes one in Kentucky then another in Texas. the shooting test is so easy that unless you've never even shot a gun before just about anyone can pass it. the distance was 7 yards. and i recall you didn't need a perfect score i.e. all rounds in the center mass of the target. might be wrong but something like 70%. it's been a long time back since i did that. i easily passed with all rounds right in the center mass and did it with a cheap russian makarov military pistol. no adjustable sights, it's heavy and rugged, designed for high usage in combat. of course i had much better guns i could have used but i use that makarov because if you can shoot accurately with it you can shoot accurately with anything.



one thing to note on CHL training, it's not intended for tactical training. that's an entirely different and much more advanced type of training. so regardless of the background of the instructor they aren't going to get into that type of shooting for a CHL. they'll tell you to shoot using both hands for accuracy. both instructors were former military btw and both had seen combat in Vietnam.



you can see why advanced training will focus on scenarios like one handed shooting and weak hand shooting because you can't anticipate how the situation will unfold and it almost never goes in perfect fashion, in fact the motto "expect the unexpected" fits perfectly here.