Gene Simmons: Unvaccinated People are ‘Delusional’ and ‘An Enemy’

  • Tiny
  • 11-15-2021, 12:29 PM
Yup over stated FLU ,,, https://youtu.be/6plsSlxOstQ Originally Posted by rexdutchman
I can't watch your video right now because I'm in the office. But going forward maybe COVID will be like the flu. That's because lots of people have gotten vaccinated and will get boosters, and lots of people have developed immunity through infection, and there are new therapeutic treatments, like monoclonal antibodies and the Pfizer pill. You can attribute all this to President Trump's Operation Warp Speed. And great American capitalist institutions like Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, and Regeneron Pharmaceuticals. And researchers in the USA and other countries, who were funded by Anthony Fauci's NIAID, among others.
FatCity's Avatar
Perhaps you can provide a link with this evidence from the CDC itself? Originally Posted by Tiny
what you had responded to WAS THE CDC....
Here is a link, its TABLE 3
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...Ktp6EsoVV2Qs1Q


However, I already know you don't plan on looking at it and will engage in some other deflection. The CDC reported a correction to the hysteria they created Q1-Q3 of 2020. The fact that you were not aware of this proves that it accomplished its goal. They did correct their numbers of true COVID deaths, but by that time everyone had swallowed their original lie whole.
  • YOU trust the CDC.
  • I'M using data updated by the CDC.
  • YOU don't trust me, so you discount what I'm stating / it goes against the position you've entrenched yourself in.
  • would you not revise your position if the authority you based your original thesis on changes?
G E N I U S


I remember these exact same machinations after the Iraq invasion
  • I SUPPORT THE INVASION BECAUSE OF WMDS!
  • NO WMDS
  • WELL, UH....I STILL SUPPORT THE INVASION
Its a closed circuit. Unable to input any new data and possibly revise the original direction you galvanized on Day One
adav8s28's Avatar
This is only about guberment control, AP today Austrian gov locks down un vax ed Hmm Nazi much

https://youtu.be/6plsSlxOstQ Originally Posted by rexdutchman
Where are you going to run to as the song suggests? SARS-CoV-2 is all over the world.

Most people DO NOT have to take the booster. If you are age 64 or younger and don't live in nursing home or some other high risk area you DON'T need the booster. If you took either the Moderna or Pfizer (two shots).
FatCity's Avatar
Most people DO NOT have to take the booster. If you are age 64 or younger and don't live in nursing home or some other high risk area you DON'T need the booster. . Originally Posted by adav8s28
be sure to subscribe to the ever-changing WHO/CDC best practices RSS feed (it changes weekly)
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...d-booster.html


do any search and you'll see they are now telling anyone over 18 to go ahead and get the BOOSTER.lololololool


booster shots are also recommended for those who are 18 and older and who were vaccinated two or more months ago
:mf r_lol:
  • Tiny
  • 11-15-2021, 01:29 PM
what you had responded to WAS THE CDC....
Here is a link, its TABLE 3
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...Ktp6EsoVV2Qs1Q


However, I already know you don't plan on looking at it and will engage in some other deflection. The CDC reported a correction to the hysteria they created Q1-Q3 of 2020. The fact that you were not aware of this proves that it accomplished its goal. They did correct their numbers of true COVID deaths, but by that time everyone had swallowed their original lie whole.
  • YOU trust the CDC.
  • I'M using data updated by the CDC.
  • YOU don't trust me, so you discount what I'm stating / it goes against the position you've entrenched yourself in.
  • would you not revise your position if the authority you based your original thesis on changes?
G E N I U S


I remember these exact same machinations after the Iraq invasion
  • I SUPPORT THE INVASION BECAUSE OF WMDS!
  • NO WMDS
  • WELL, UH....I STILL SUPPORT THE INVASION
Its a closed circuit. Unable to input any new data and possibly revise the original direction you galvanized on Day One Originally Posted by FatCity
First, thanks for the link, honestly. It's interesting to see how many COVID deaths occurred in each age group.

I however see no no place where the CDC said it underestimated the number of COVID related deaths. Yeah, if someone had COVID, then pneumonia, respiratory failure, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. may have contributed to his death. Agreed, if he didn't also suffer from one or more of those conditions, he might not have died after contracting COVID. I've got no problem with that.

However, you're the one who's deflecting, avoiding the question. What caused 500,000 more people to die from all causes in 2020, compared to 2019? You're saying if COVID 19 had never strayed from that bat cave or lab or whatever, we still would have suffered 500,000 more deaths in 2020? That makes no sense.
  • Tiny
  • 11-15-2021, 01:33 PM
be sure to subscribe to the ever-changing WHO/CDC best practices RSS feed (it changes weekly)
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...d-booster.html


do any search and you'll see they are now telling anyone over 18 to go ahead and get the BOOSTER.lololololool



:mf r_lol: Originally Posted by FatCity
Another deceiving post. According to the text in your image, the CDC only recommended boosters for 18+ if the person lives in a long term care setting, or has underlying medical conditions, or lives or works in a high risk setting.
FatCity's Avatar
What caused 500,000 more people to die from all causes in 2020, compared to 2019? You're saying if COVID 19 had never strayed from that bat cave or lab or whatever, we still would have suffered 500,000 more deaths in 2020? Originally Posted by Tiny
i have never made that statement. In all my posts, I have only said that the reported COVID deaths were over reported.

You're advancing something else here.
FatCity's Avatar
Another deceiving post. Originally Posted by Tiny
you're going to have to learn how to read (this really is a problem in all your posts...you're having big issues with info uptake).
READ THE SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH OF THAT IMAGE OUT LOUD
  • Tiny
  • 11-15-2021, 01:40 PM
you're going to have to learn how to read (this really is a problem in all your posts...you're having big issues with info uptake).
READ THE SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH OF THAT IMAGE OUT LOUD Originally Posted by FatCity
OK, add anyone who took the J&J vaccine to the list, who account for about 6.6% of the people who've gotten at least one shot, or 7.7% of people who are fully vaccinated. That's not consistent with what you said, "they are now telling anyone over 18 to go ahead and get the BOOSTER.lololololool"
  • Tiny
  • 11-15-2021, 01:44 PM
i have never made that statement. In all my posts, I have only said that the reported COVID deaths were over reported.

You're advancing something else here. Originally Posted by FatCity
No you didn't make that statement. I did, and you haven't provided evidence that would refute it. Since the CDC only reported about 350,000 COVID related deaths in 2020, and since there were around 500,000 more total deaths in 2020 than 2019, you haven't provided convincing evidence that COVID deaths were over reported. And you won't.
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No you didn't make that statement. I did, and you haven't provided evidence that would refute it. And you won't. Originally Posted by Tiny
cool.
support your own arguments.
its not my job to support arguments you make
  • Tiny
  • 11-15-2021, 01:50 PM
cool.
support your own arguments.
its not my job to support arguments you make
Originally Posted by FatCity
Yeah, well my argument trashes your argument that COVID related deaths were over-reported.
FatCity's Avatar
COVID related deaths were over-reported. Originally Posted by Tiny
the CDC says they were.
CLOSED

CIRCUIT
  • oeb11
  • 11-15-2021, 02:31 PM
Tiny and FC - as i read teh recommendation:
Quote - "For the nearly 15 million people who got the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine, booster shots are also recommended for those who are 18 and older and who were vaccinated two or more months ago."
This quote not posted in its' entirety in post #64 in the lower 'bold face ' Quote. .



Probably should add - Those who have IgG antibodies to wuhan virus from naturally acquired immunity, likely do not need booster shots at this time.

IMHO!
adav8s28's Avatar
OK, add anyone who took the J&J vaccine to the list, who account for about 6.6% of the people who've gotten at least one shot, or 7.7% of people who are fully vaccinated. That's not consistent with what you said, "they are now telling anyone over 18 to go ahead and get the BOOSTER.lololololool" Originally Posted by Tiny
Tiny, you are correct. FC posted two deceiving posts!