Perry proposes mandatory sonograms

According to what you and --did you actually include Wyldeman in your opinion team? -- American education has a bad case of. GPS. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

HUH?
Yssup, slow down, READ before hitting the submit button and you'll find people may actually understand what you're trying to say.

Miss Ava, as the OP, I for one appreciate any input here from the ladies. Wouldn't dream of holding a lady's political views against her when it comes to her business. Personally I think that's a little ridiculous for anyone to do.
I understand your point about the education but if you read the link I posted, you'll see that we already spend more per student than most nations do yet the quality of our education continues to plummet. So that's why Wyldeman, myself and some others don't feel that it's simply a money issue. If you get a chance, there's an awesome documentary about our education system called "Waiting on Superman". If you get a chance to watch it let me know what you think of it. The documentary makes it pretty clear that it's not the lack of money that's currently plaguing or education system.
I've spent a considerable number of years being educated in the German school system, I've traveled extensively around the world and observed how other countries are addressing their education needs and in my opinion, money is not the issue at this point. Originally Posted by DTorrchia

I hosted a viewing party at my home for this documentary and continue to support the message it brings as I can. Geof*ry Canad*, just recently came to be "famous". I knew about the Harlem Success Academy when it opened several years ago in just one block. Start a thread about education and not abortion and I will be more than happy to contribute. Some gentleman like their ladies cute and quiet. No one wants to *uck Hillary or Condi, lol.

No one wants to *uck Hillary or Condi, lol. Originally Posted by Ava Stone

I agree 100% on Hillary (never heard ANYONE wanting to F*ck her) but I have to say I've heard some comments to the contrary about Condi!

I agree 100% on Hillary (never heard ANYONE wanting to F*ck her) but I have to say I've heard some comments to the contrary about Condi! Originally Posted by DTorrchia

Yeah you can't forget about Muammar Gaddafi.

I wish Rick Perry could get pregnant. He might think twice about forced sonograms as he SPRINTS to the nearest abortion clinic.

I wish Rick Perry could get pregnant. He might think twice about forced sonograms as he SPRINTS to the nearest abortion clinic. Originally Posted by SweetKimberly

Ms. Kimberly, I'll take that as an "against" vote on the sonograms? LOL.
I'm not sure ANY of us men want any part of being pregnant. It's something I definitely don't envy the ladies on.

My sister had to have an abortion because having the baby would have killed her and the baby would have died anyway. My sister was very very upset and was a very emotional tragedy for our family. My sister is not for abortions either. There are lots of people out there that want kids that are not able to have them. Adoption is a much more civil thing to do instead of using abortion as a form of birth control that baby has done nothing wrong. You need to think first before you speak on this topic.

Wylde, I'm sure people ARE thinking before speaking on this subject (most of them anyway). It's an emotional subject for all sides involved. Always has been.
Sorry about your sister's situation. I'm sure that had to be tough.
I do agree that using it as a form of birth control is probably not the best option.
I would like to see more people go the adoption route vs aborting. I'd also like to see the father be given some rights as far as the decision making process. It took two to create the situation, it should probably take two to make a decision.

Wylde, I'm sure people ARE thinking before speaking on this subject (most of them anyway). It's an emotional subject for all sides involved. Always has been.
Sorry about your sister's situation. I'm sure that had to be tough.
I do agree that using it as a form of birth control is probably not the best option.
I would like to see more people go the adoption route vs aborting. I'd also like to see the father be given some rights as far as the decision making process. It took two to create the situation, it should probably take two to make a decision. Originally Posted by DTorrchia

That was well said and a thoughtful reply. Thank you for your understanding.

Oh, my bad "F", I thought it was you that cleverly changed Wyldeman 30's post and put your uninformed 2 cents in on the education issue. Must have been a F-Sharp imposter. I apologize! .....or maybe not. Originally Posted by DTorrchia

Again with the strawman debate, when are you ever going to learn? Just because I believe the cost of private education precludes it's mainstream use, doesn't mean I believe public education is better. My "uninformed 2 cents" happens to originate from putting two children through private school for much of their education.

I've been an involved parent of my child's education since he began in Kindergarten. Originally Posted by DTorrchia

I spend 9 months out of every year outside of the United States. I've been doing so for the last 7 years. Originally Posted by DTorrchia

Now you can carefully explain how you managed to be such an involved parent while being away 9 months of the year for the last 7 years.

HUH?
Yssup, slow down, READ before hitting the submit button and you'll find people may actually understand what you're trying to say. Originally Posted by DTorrchia

Dude, learn about this little thing called Google and this thread wouldnt even fucking exist. seriously. While I thank you for your service, you started this thread about proposed legislation, long after it was already signed into law. So give whatshisfuck a break, we gave you one.

NUMBER ONE -- Hard to post on a freaking cellphone, so please forgive me if it appears I'm not paying attention to the pearls of wisdom you're shared on this issue.

NUMBER TWO -- yes, I said NUMBER TWO! -- so PAY ATTENTION! I don't think READING was ever part of this thread. It was born of a misstatement and has been backpedaling on defense ever since.

I agree Budman33, it's probably a good idea for OP to pay attention at the time of OPing...that way you don't wind up P'ing on your own feet as you try and get out of the corner you've P'ainted yourself into.

This is some serious shit we're dealing with here. After all, if you're out of the country most of the year, then how would one be expected to form an opinion about abortion/choice/forced sonograms that might be different than the dogmatic stance one routinely spews?

Best bet is for one to whack on someone else. Kinda like those ones who would rather bring down the American people rather than fix American policy.

But whatshisfuck doesn't giveafuck...

Based on posting history, I wonder if W30 really has a sister. He's lied about things before just to make a point.

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Now you can carefully explain how you managed to be such an involved parent while being away 9 months of the year for the last 7 years.[/quote]

No need to be "careful". His mother was worthless as a parent. Therefor after our divorce I was awarded primary custody. He was 5 when we got divorced, I didn't leave for Iraq until he was approximately 9. By then I had gotten re-married. I never missed a single parent/teacher conference and kept up on his homework daily. How? It's a wonderful thing called the internet. I talked to him on webcam nightly, checking to make sure his homework is done. During parent teacher conferences, his teachers would set up webcam and I would be an active participant. Also, those 9 months out of the year aren't consecutive. I would leave for 90 days, come home for 30. In this modern age, it's not hard at all to be an involved parent. His mother by contrast lived less than 2 hours away while I was overseas yet never made a single parent/teacher conference in the last 8+ years. Not by phone, not by webcam not in person.
Not to toot my own horn, but his teachers have consistently told me that as a father I've been more involved with my son's education than many men who work right here in the city. So yeah, helping him with homework at night through webcam, staying in constant touch with his teachers, sometimes daily if he was having problems or issues, and staying involved whether I was home or abroad, I'd say that qualifies me as having been an "involved" parent.
How much vacation time do you get per year? 3 months where you get to be home full time, day and night with your kid? I doubt it. Between our time together on webcam, on the phone, etc and the 3 months I get to spend with him where I don't have to work, I'd put my time spent with my kid and my involvement in his education up to any father's.

Anything else I can help clear up for you?

Glad you felt compelled to qualify yourself before this august tribunal.

And proud of you we all are!

LOL!