The far-right keeps treating Hunter like a wayward high school kid, so that makes Joe a negligent father. Lol.
Hunter's like 55 years old. He's his own person, and yes, he's probably guilty of a few things. Let him have his day in court and, here's a novel idea, we'll respect the court's decision.
This still has nothing to do with Joe Biden.
- tommy156
- 12-30-2023, 04:09 PM
- lustylad
- 12-30-2023, 06:26 PM
Let me know when they have even a tiniest shred of evidence. It seems they should have led with the "evidence" part, right? But they didn't, because they have none. This is nothing but a fishing expedition. Originally Posted by tommy156Give it up, tommy. The evidence has been piling up for months. Your problem is you refuse to see it. They could drag out a dead body, and you would shrug and say "so what? you haven't proven it's really dead" lol.
Look, it's not that complicated. Hunter is the BAGMAN for the Biden family's bribery/extortion/influence-peddling business. The money doesn't need to go directly into Joey's personal bank account. Most Americans understand what a "bagman" is. Whether Joey's involvement in the scheme is technically illegal (the federal statutory definition of bribery includes payments made to an official's family) or just plain unethical, it stinks either way.
As Kim Strassel put it in her latest WSJ column:
"The president’s problem is that whether he profited or not, the evidence suggests that he facilitated this behavior, enabling the influence peddling, whether by getting on speakerphone when his son was with clients, or dropping by his son’s business meals."
You look silly trying to pretend there is some kind of wall between Hunter and Joey. For chrissake, they flew together on Air Force Two to Ukraine, China and Romania to line up all Hunter's corrupt deals and shakedowns.
Hunter is a fucking millstone around Joey's neck. You can pretend you don't give a fuck about Hunter, but most Americans are paying attention. Don't you follow the polls?
"An October poll by the Associated Press and NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that 68% believed Joe Biden acted illegally or unethically with regard to his son’s business dealings. That includes 74% of independents. It’s difficult to think of a Biden excuse that would suddenly make these numbers better."
That was two months ago. Joey's numbers are only going to get worse. When will you and the Dems wake up?
- lustylad
- 12-30-2023, 06:44 PM
Hunter Comes Home to Roost
Joe Biden managed to escape scrutiny for his son’s business in 2020. Not this time.
By Kimberley A. Strassel
Dec. 28, 2023 6:26 pm ET
One hazard of political campaigns is the unseen junction—a key moment that nobody recognizes at the time. Such a moment came for Democrats on April 19, via a letter to Congress about the federal probe into Joe Biden’s son Hunter.
Team Biden might be forgiven for ignoring the missive. Hunter’s legal team was quietly negotiating with U.S. Attorney David Weiss, working to close his probe with no charges. The sordid laptop aside, the Biden circle had good reason to believe the drama would soon be over, that Americans would (again) be denied further details of the Biden family business.
Instead, the letter introduced the country to the first of two Internal Revenue Service agents who’d been tossed from the Hunter investigation after flagging irregularities. Their whistleblower testimony blew open the ugly details of Hunter’s foreign business escapades. Follow-up interviews suggested Joe’s tacit assistance. The Justice Department came under fire. Hunter’s plea deal fell apart. Mr. Weiss obtained indictments against him. Yet to come: Hunter’s trial proceedings, a possible Hunter contempt of Congress citation, and a possible Joe Biden impeachment.
That April day was in retrospect the moment for the Biden team—and Democrats more broadly—to reconsider the wisdom of a re-election campaign. The president was already beginning to sag under polls that show sweeping dissatisfaction with his job performance and age. Hunter has since become another big drag on the president’s hope for a second term.
So far, the Biden campaign—and the media—remains in full denial, insisting the story is a political nonstarter so long as House Republicans fail to prove Joe “profited” from Hunter’s largess. That misses the Burisma board for the political trees. The Hunter damage comes from the stench of family influence peddling, the intersection of it with Mr. Biden’s office, and the potential for the hits to keep coming.
Mr. Biden cast himself in 2020 as the restorative “light” to Donald Trump’s “darkness.” Hunter muddies such distinctions. Americans don’t generally like IRS probes, but they make exceptions for wealthy tax cheats, and Hunter makes an unsympathetic defendant. He is accused of evading $1.4 million in taxes on $7 million of income. The tax-avoidance figure alone is a sum most Americans can only dream of. (Hunter Biden pleaded not guilty. His lawyer, Abbe Lowell, said he had paid all his taxes and accused Mr. Weiss of having “bowed to Republican pressure” in seeking the indictment.)
The president’s problem is that whether he profited or not, the evidence suggests that he facilitated this behavior, enabling the influence peddling, whether by getting on speakerphone when his son was with clients, or dropping by his son’s business meals. This behavior also weakens the campaign’s hope that voters will sympathize with a family struggling over drug addiction. Many Americans genuinely identify with that awful problem, though few likely think the solution is a ride on Air Force 2 to sell the Biden brand.
Joe Biden beat Mr. Trump in 2020 in no small part on the claim his opponent lacked the moral fitness for a second term—and he is banking on a repeat. But the Hunter drama is a direct hit to Joe’s own supposed fitness, as it presents a story line of an extended Biden family grifting for years on Joe Biden’s public standing—with his implied agreement. It puts both sides in the mud.
The Justice Department’s initial kid-glove handling of Hunter phenomenally backfired, landing the mess square in the presidential campaign cycle. Hunter’s legal team will no doubt angle to push any trials past 2024. But it’s unclear Mr. Weiss is done seeking indictments, and in any event his botched probe has already provided House Republicans enough leads to keep headlines humming through November. And that’s not taking into account the growing possibility of impeachment hearings—which would dominate the news cycle for weeks.
Hunter’s new “aggressive” legal strategy by necessity will make him a headline. See his stunt of a few weeks back, flouting a congressional subpoena in favor of a press conference outside the Capitol. That may yet earn him a contempt citation. Would the Justice Department bring charges? Maybe not, though that in itself would add to the scandal—Biden officials refusing to hold to account a presidential son who scorned a lawful subpoena. The president’s former press secretary Jen Psaki recently acknowledged that the White House team was surely wishing that Hunter would “please stop talking in public.” Though it also might help if dad stopped inviting him to state dinners.
All this explains polls showing the Hunter millstone. An October poll by the Associated Press and NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that 68% believed Joe Biden acted illegally or unethically with regard to his son’s business dealings. That includes 74% of independents. It’s difficult to think of a Biden excuse that would suddenly make these numbers better.
Joe Biden was spared the Hunter narrative in 2020 thanks to a cabal of obliging press, social media and former intelligence officials that deep-sixed the laptop story in the runup to the election. It’s acting as if it can similarly disappear the new Hunter drama. It’s too late for that, and Democrats might consider what that means for 2024.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-...ction-a207d57a
Joe Biden managed to escape scrutiny for his son’s business in 2020. Not this time.
By Kimberley A. Strassel
Dec. 28, 2023 6:26 pm ET
One hazard of political campaigns is the unseen junction—a key moment that nobody recognizes at the time. Such a moment came for Democrats on April 19, via a letter to Congress about the federal probe into Joe Biden’s son Hunter.
Team Biden might be forgiven for ignoring the missive. Hunter’s legal team was quietly negotiating with U.S. Attorney David Weiss, working to close his probe with no charges. The sordid laptop aside, the Biden circle had good reason to believe the drama would soon be over, that Americans would (again) be denied further details of the Biden family business.
Instead, the letter introduced the country to the first of two Internal Revenue Service agents who’d been tossed from the Hunter investigation after flagging irregularities. Their whistleblower testimony blew open the ugly details of Hunter’s foreign business escapades. Follow-up interviews suggested Joe’s tacit assistance. The Justice Department came under fire. Hunter’s plea deal fell apart. Mr. Weiss obtained indictments against him. Yet to come: Hunter’s trial proceedings, a possible Hunter contempt of Congress citation, and a possible Joe Biden impeachment.
That April day was in retrospect the moment for the Biden team—and Democrats more broadly—to reconsider the wisdom of a re-election campaign. The president was already beginning to sag under polls that show sweeping dissatisfaction with his job performance and age. Hunter has since become another big drag on the president’s hope for a second term.
So far, the Biden campaign—and the media—remains in full denial, insisting the story is a political nonstarter so long as House Republicans fail to prove Joe “profited” from Hunter’s largess. That misses the Burisma board for the political trees. The Hunter damage comes from the stench of family influence peddling, the intersection of it with Mr. Biden’s office, and the potential for the hits to keep coming.
Mr. Biden cast himself in 2020 as the restorative “light” to Donald Trump’s “darkness.” Hunter muddies such distinctions. Americans don’t generally like IRS probes, but they make exceptions for wealthy tax cheats, and Hunter makes an unsympathetic defendant. He is accused of evading $1.4 million in taxes on $7 million of income. The tax-avoidance figure alone is a sum most Americans can only dream of. (Hunter Biden pleaded not guilty. His lawyer, Abbe Lowell, said he had paid all his taxes and accused Mr. Weiss of having “bowed to Republican pressure” in seeking the indictment.)
The president’s problem is that whether he profited or not, the evidence suggests that he facilitated this behavior, enabling the influence peddling, whether by getting on speakerphone when his son was with clients, or dropping by his son’s business meals. This behavior also weakens the campaign’s hope that voters will sympathize with a family struggling over drug addiction. Many Americans genuinely identify with that awful problem, though few likely think the solution is a ride on Air Force 2 to sell the Biden brand.
Joe Biden beat Mr. Trump in 2020 in no small part on the claim his opponent lacked the moral fitness for a second term—and he is banking on a repeat. But the Hunter drama is a direct hit to Joe’s own supposed fitness, as it presents a story line of an extended Biden family grifting for years on Joe Biden’s public standing—with his implied agreement. It puts both sides in the mud.
The Justice Department’s initial kid-glove handling of Hunter phenomenally backfired, landing the mess square in the presidential campaign cycle. Hunter’s legal team will no doubt angle to push any trials past 2024. But it’s unclear Mr. Weiss is done seeking indictments, and in any event his botched probe has already provided House Republicans enough leads to keep headlines humming through November. And that’s not taking into account the growing possibility of impeachment hearings—which would dominate the news cycle for weeks.
Hunter’s new “aggressive” legal strategy by necessity will make him a headline. See his stunt of a few weeks back, flouting a congressional subpoena in favor of a press conference outside the Capitol. That may yet earn him a contempt citation. Would the Justice Department bring charges? Maybe not, though that in itself would add to the scandal—Biden officials refusing to hold to account a presidential son who scorned a lawful subpoena. The president’s former press secretary Jen Psaki recently acknowledged that the White House team was surely wishing that Hunter would “please stop talking in public.” Though it also might help if dad stopped inviting him to state dinners.
All this explains polls showing the Hunter millstone. An October poll by the Associated Press and NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that 68% believed Joe Biden acted illegally or unethically with regard to his son’s business dealings. That includes 74% of independents. It’s difficult to think of a Biden excuse that would suddenly make these numbers better.
Joe Biden was spared the Hunter narrative in 2020 thanks to a cabal of obliging press, social media and former intelligence officials that deep-sixed the laptop story in the runup to the election. It’s acting as if it can similarly disappear the new Hunter drama. It’s too late for that, and Democrats might consider what that means for 2024.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-...ction-a207d57a
- lustylad
- 12-30-2023, 07:40 PM
- lustylad
- 12-30-2023, 07:43 PM
WASHINGTON, DC — Amid a House impeachment inquiry and increasing questions about bribery and extortion involving Hunter Biden, the White House reminded the press that there's not any direct evidence that Hunter Biden actually exists.
"When you think about it, there's not really any conclusive proof that this 'Hunter' guy is even real," said historic, gay, black Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre to reporters. "Have any of you even seen him in person? Have you actually physically touched him? For all we know, Hunter is just a figment of the GOP's wild and fevered imaginations. It's sad, really."
The gathered journalists murmured and nodded in agreement at Jean-Pierre's excellent point.
"It's a shame we didn't start questioning the notion of this 'Hunter Biden' fiction a long time ago," said Meet The Press anchor Chuck Todd. "How could we have been so blind to the deep deception of the far-right? The whole thing was a hoax! This is an attack on democracy."
Journalists have begun to pull all their Hunter Biden stories pending further investigation into the matter. "Once we have investigated the GOP's deception around the existence of this alleged 'Hunter' character, we will update you on that story," said Jake Tapper. "Stay tuned for an update in 5 or 6 years."
At publishing time, new allegations related to Joe Biden's involvement in the corruption surfaced, leading the White House to denounce the existence of Joe Biden as a right-wing conspiracy theory.
https://babylonbee.com/news/white-ho...r-biden-exists
- eyecu2
- 12-30-2023, 11:40 PM
4 sequential posts to explain the whole GOP FIXation on Hunter, still filled w "might be", "could haves", Boogeyman Bag-man...yet no ties of either big money, or the quo pro that was supposedly bought for with imaginary bribe money. They're more variables in the story than Perry Mason could solve, but still no direct tie back to Joe. Sorry but the Intel committee needs to either connect all the dots or call in someone who can..or give it up.
They've proven nothing up to now with access to bank records except for a few loans. Supposedly millions were paid to hunter yet those mysteriously vanished.... And the only explanation the GOP MAGAMINDS can come up with is it all ends w Joe!!!
Prove it.
They've proven nothing up to now with access to bank records except for a few loans. Supposedly millions were paid to hunter yet those mysteriously vanished.... And the only explanation the GOP MAGAMINDS can come up with is it all ends w Joe!!!
Prove it.
- Salty Again
- 12-30-2023, 11:50 PM
U know hunter is toast, that's why u say who gives a fuck tommy. And if his boy was funneling money to... The liberal lads here don't seem to understand
His daddy, either by direct transfer or by saying it was loans, he is the linchpin and yes good old Joe has done an impeachable offense. Originally Posted by chizzy
that Profiteering and Enrichments while in office
ARE CRIMES.
It doesn't matter IF the VP Joe Biden profited or not.
IF his family did - from Joe's "influence" with
foreign governments - and Hunter benefiting $$$$
after Joe got the Ukraine prosecuting bloke FIRED
- it's A CRIME.
And whether Joe is Impeached or not - he'll surely
be answering for the CRIMES come 2025.
#### Salty
- onawbtngr546
- 12-31-2023, 08:49 AM
... The liberal lads here don't seem to understandSure, I can see where you are coming from. But if profiting from a political position is a crime, then everyone in congress is also guilty. They voted against restrictions on insider trading for members of congress. Political bribes aside, every member on congress has made millions in the stock market because of the insider information that they had. Why else would they all sell whatever they were holding early in 2020 before we had that dip? Because they knew that the economy was on the way down, and jumped off, and profited on the loss every American experienced in 2020.
that Profiteering and Enrichments while in office
ARE CRIMES.
It doesn't matter IF the VP Joe Biden profited or not.
IF his family did - from Joe's "influence" with
foreign governments - and Hunter benefiting $$$$
after Joe got the Ukraine prosecuting bloke FIRED
- it's A CRIME.
And whether Joe is Impeached or not - he'll surely
be answering for the CRIMES come 2025.
#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
But no, we need to hold the President accountable for what his 50 year old son does. Clearly, that is where our priorities should be! /s
- Salty Again
- 12-31-2023, 12:17 PM
... And THAT very well may be, mate.
But THIS instance aint "stock options" - it's using INFLUENCE
while VP of the United States to enrich his-own family members.
Joe Biden was OBama's "Point Man on energy" and his son
is out there serving on boards and working-with FOREIGN
energy companys. ...
So, obviously these companys are paying Hunter and the
other Bidens $$$$$ so they get favourable business terms
and considourations for the U.S...
Such-as VP Biden getting the Ukraine bloke FIRED, who was
investigating the business company who employed his son.
After the firing - Hunter surely rakes in the money. $$$$$$
... THAT is a CRIME. ... Thus the Impeachment Inquiry.
#### Salty
But THIS instance aint "stock options" - it's using INFLUENCE
while VP of the United States to enrich his-own family members.
Joe Biden was OBama's "Point Man on energy" and his son
is out there serving on boards and working-with FOREIGN
energy companys. ...
So, obviously these companys are paying Hunter and the
other Bidens $$$$$ so they get favourable business terms
and considourations for the U.S...
Such-as VP Biden getting the Ukraine bloke FIRED, who was
investigating the business company who employed his son.
After the firing - Hunter surely rakes in the money. $$$$$$
... THAT is a CRIME. ... Thus the Impeachment Inquiry.
#### Salty
- eyecu2
- 12-31-2023, 01:08 PM
Hunter being paid to consult on something - no matter the particular business or expertise that he has or doesn't have, is NOT criminal. There has to be a tie -back to JOE in order for JOE BIDEN to be in trouble, and that the payment was for something that is both illegal, and of influence or attempt to influence.
So to be clear- the most the Hillbilly-Duet from the House Committee have, is that Bidens' brother paid back a loan of 240k, and that hunter paid back a loan of < 5k for a truck. Wow---thats sure some influence peddling going on.
They haven't found shit else to pin on JOE, so the fact that you keep posting it, doesn't make it more factual. It just makes you look stupid, like you can't understand it the first, second or third....ieth time you read that they don't have the money linked up directly to JOE.
Sorry- but that dog don't hunt.
So to be clear- the most the Hillbilly-Duet from the House Committee have, is that Bidens' brother paid back a loan of 240k, and that hunter paid back a loan of < 5k for a truck. Wow---thats sure some influence peddling going on.
They haven't found shit else to pin on JOE, so the fact that you keep posting it, doesn't make it more factual. It just makes you look stupid, like you can't understand it the first, second or third....ieth time you read that they don't have the money linked up directly to JOE.
Sorry- but that dog don't hunt.
- tommy156
- 12-31-2023, 02:06 PM
Lol. MAGA is so triggered, they're offering up memes and political cartoons as "evidence" now. Wow.
They're also triggered because they have ZERO. EVIDENCE.
They're also triggered because they have ZERO. EVIDENCE.
- onawbtngr546
- 12-31-2023, 04:11 PM
Lol. MAGA is so triggered, they're offering up memes and political cartoons as "evidence" now. Wow.
They're also triggered because they have ZERO. EVIDENCE. Originally Posted by tommy156
The reason the MAGA cult has such a low barrier of entry is because they are informed and entertained by simple minded stuff like cartoons. They don't understand what 'impeachment' means.
I mean the Jon Doe of the group. The person who gets all their news from Faux news and nowhere else. They believe what they are told. 'Oh they tried to impeach Trump! They clearly don't like him and say he is an old dummy! Well, Sleepy Joe is also a dummy! We aught to impeach him! See how he likes it! haha!'
You can't impeach a president because you don't like him. There has to be a crime. And we have not been presented with any evidence that he had committed a crime.
- tommy156
- 12-31-2023, 04:37 PM
You can't impeach a president because you don't like him. There has to be a crime. And we have not been presented with any evidence that he had committed a crime. Originally Posted by onawbtngr546Yep. Time for MAGA to put up or shut up. Stop wasting our tax dollars on your fucking fishing expedition.
- chizzy
- 12-31-2023, 05:52 PM
The reason the MAGA cult has such a low barrier of entry is because they are informed and entertained by simple minded stuff like cartoons. They don't understand what 'impeachment' means.
I mean the Jon Doe of the group. The person who gets all their news from Faux news and nowhere else. They believe what they are told. 'Oh they tried to impeach Trump! They clearly don't like him and say he is an old dummy! Well, Sleepy Joe is also a dummy! We aught to impeach him! See how he likes it! haha!'
You can't impeach a president because you don't like him. There has to be a crime. And we have not been presented with any evidence that he had committed a crime. Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
Again u and Tommy have no idea what u r talking about...and ur democratic party members disagree with u. A crime does not have to be committed.
https://theconversation.com/does-imp...itution-130354
- lustylad
- 01-01-2024, 01:13 PM
MAGA is so triggered, they're offering up memes and political cartoons as "evidence" now. Originally Posted by tommy156
The reason the MAGA cult has such a low barrier of entry is because they are informed and entertained by simple minded stuff like cartoons. Originally Posted by onawbtngr546Who's MAGA? Is he/she a cartoonist?
Hey, it's not my fault that lefties have no sense of humor.
When you pile up evidence on top of evidence, and some people keep reflexively saying there's no evidence, eventually it gets so ridiculous that the satire and cartoons pretty much write themselves.
Reminds me of the classic movie scene where the wife comes home, catches her husband in bed with another woman, screams and runs out of the house with the half-naked husband chasing after her yelling "Wait! Honey, come back! It's NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE!"
