When provided real world info by a newbie for screening that's just one step. It does require research and that is why if you value your safety and reputation you don't let some guy say "I'm John smith and I work at McDonalds". No one is invisible. I have always been very careful to keep myself (personally) mostly unsearchable but most clients have not spent years trying to do that.SG, the idea that eyeballing someone is a way to indicate their personality or all that is involved is just silly. Holler at me and I will be happy to share with you what I know and have learned throughout a lifetime of dealing with undesirable individuals.
And I don't know about anyone else but the idea that you meet in public and eyeball to see if he is safe.........Ted Bundy was remarkably charismatic. Originally Posted by SillyGirl
i'm a nice guy who did nothing wrong and someone posted that i give false info and am mysterious. so how do u guys justify girls posting bogus info cause they're in a bad mood or something. Originally Posted by currymasalanycThe same way fucktards justify starting negative threads or writing bad reviews when they don't get their way or simply does not like a provider. Immaturity is my guess. Not everyone is stupid and most smart providers will search and make an opinion based on the information provided. Whether that be in your favor or not is out of your control, but if you handle your business in an upright manner all the time it will make your chances of really getting screwed a lot less likely. I don't know about the first but the second scenario the OP mentioned was on him. Once you start BCD with a provider, you do owe her something.
I found my name on the National Black List. In fact my brother pointed it out to me a year ago, so my whole family knows. Before I go any farther, I not going to be like every other guy who has said "I didn't do it" because I did. Guilty as charged. I refused to pay the escort on two separate occasions over the last 4 years. I had a justified reason for not paying. I've told my story to many providers. They 100% agreed with my decisions and I stand by my actions.
***Just to state for the record. I still see consistently 3 providers a month. Usually a rotation of 2 regulars and always 1 something. I never stop because of my story. My regulars act as my references.***
So, guilty as charged and I am not going to defend myself. I wasn't careful and angry at the same time. The result- I made two big mistakes. I made the choice to meet them and I decided not to pay when after feeling cheated. I can't blame anyone but myself. I picked being right over being happy.
Now my punishment- If you Google search my name look at the results half way down the page. You will see my name followed by not so nice words(horrible actually). Definitely an eye catcher, especially just a line below a subject titled in big caps the words NATIONAL BLACK LIST.
The second incident was the end of last March and in May the social media search engine ruling pasted. That's when my punishment starting taking effect. Since then It's cost me at least 50k in deals after losing a long time client, a girlfriend, a few friends, a few no second dates, my family knows, and both my step mother and mother barely speak to me without a look of disgust, The worst thing of all it has done damage to my father because we have the same name. $500. That's the amount I did not pay two girls who really didn't deserve it. That was my crime and I'm done serving a life long sentence.
So this is paragraph I would to share every once of detail of truth NBL. I got to be vague. Don't want to show all your cards right away. I have nothing left to lose and nothing left to hide. My thrill seeking lawyer wants to go to court. He says it will be fun. I started doing research on the internet last night which took me through a maze of lies. Finally 8 hours later I hit the jacket pot. I know everything and I mean everything. The possible up to 6 people involved, their personal and business affairs, the details of website. The daily profit and net worth of the site. It's some really juicy shit!
Bottom Line.... These people are going down! I wont stop until it happens. The one bit of info I will give- If you actually thought it was an angry ex stripper by the name of Crystal who created this site only in the interest of protecting escorts, think again. The protection is the monetary value they are selling to the escorts. Without the ability to slander our names on the internet the website loses it's value. This site's main purpose is financial gain for a group of sleazy small timers in WA, Vegas, and AZ. it
My purpose for writing this thread is I want them to know that the 100's of men and I on this site mean business. Their same old response challenging us to take the matter to court won't work any more. That's exactly what I'll do.
So... Larry and Darliss or Gary and Wendy, I'll look forward to speaking to you soon! Originally Posted by bF75Hobbist
Let me get this straight u fucked over not 1but 2 providers and your going after a 3rd party?You either didn't read the entire thread or are a shady provider yourself. Hopefully you didn't read the thread. There is no justifying what these 2 women did. I would never see any of the providers who try and act like it was his fault.
Shame on you!!!!!
You are getting EXACTLY WHAT U DESERVE!
If u didn't want to pay those girls you should have never scheduled with them
If you showed up and they weren't the girl in the picture you should have left before any services were received.
IF you manage to get national black list taken down (which I doubt u will)
Another list will replace it and your info will be listed there.
There are hundreds of blacklists are you going to shut down all of them? Originally Posted by Sexyhunnypot
Who thought that? NBL is a for profit website. I think its funny as hell that ladies pay for that crap when you can get the same thing for free on providerbuzz. Originally Posted by Brooke WildI thought everyone knew this. I guess not...
Sue them, and they'll claim the "safe harbor" exemption under the Communications Decency Act. I'm sure your lawyer is fired up to go. Go, and run up your legal bill that is.Exactly!!!!! There is NO copyright violation so filing a DMCA would be a bit silly. I agree on suing. If it's fucked up his life that bad, he shoudl sue!
I don't see how the DMCA would fit in this case. Where is the copyright violation? Originally Posted by Jannisary
So how is it you screen clients who do not have a P411 or a board handle? Clients give me their real world information every day. Originally Posted by Brooke WildExactly.
I was thinking the same thing....Well said beautiful.
Maybe SnL's not newbie friendly.
@simpleton, you may not have to. You're in Vegas, right? There's poon on every corner there. But for certain men that play in certain areas, screening as a newbie is required so he doesn't have to guess about the type of experience he's about to have (I am not saying by any stretch of the imagination that screening guarantees a good time, but it may mean more often than not that the lady cares about her reputation in this business). Thank goodness for services like P411.
Meeting a girl who doesn't screen in some cases can lead to a lot of YMMV and ripoffs. You rarely see rip-off reports of girls who have a certain work ethic. Of course, there have been a few, where they've fallen prey to some bad situations. And when you get ripped off by Sally Streetwalker, and her pimp beats you up, where's the Alert section for that? You're alone and with a bad taste in your mouth about Providers in general.
Not all of us are here to hurt you. Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson
I've been watching this thread with curiosity for a few reasons. Time to jump in and comment. I find it an interesting, complex OP.You make a great point. Maybe taking it to court will make things worse!
First, I am sorry your real life info was outed. That is never a good thing. But it was partially a self inflicted wound since you gave it out to ladies you did not know. I have not given my real info out to any lady before establishing a level of trust with her, usually over a number of meetings. You want to see someone who wants your name, that is knowingly putting yourself at risk. Again, I am sorry it happened but do it often enough and you should not be shocked.
Second, in both cases there seems there was blaime on both sides. Personally I too would have ended the first one as soon as I knew why she went to the bathroom. The problem is you don't give any indication that (1) you researched her for this issue at all, or (2) you discussed with her that it was an unacceptavle practice during your date. So, when it happens and you decide to end things, I would say you do owe her.
The second lady it was an unfortunate situation, but she is somewhat screwed by the timimg. Her period started 40 min before she arrived, so she either CX near-last-minute and you get upset, of she shows up and you get upset.
In both cases--based upon the level of anger you're showing here--I suspect you reacted angrily then too. Had you offered a small buy out at the time, in a polite way, I suspect things may have ended differently. Especially in case #2. But if you went on a tirade of name calling as you did here, I can see how it went down hill fast.
But the real thing I find interesting is what do you think your law suit will achieve? "Dear jury, I met these two women and renaged on the financial deal I had with them. I walked out without paying either of them for time I had contracted for. I admit that. But now they wrote true statements about me on the web, using information I freely gave them. But now I want to ruin the web page owner because I was dumb (gave the women my name) and did not do prudent research before hiering them."
And you think judge who wants to get reelected, or a jury with a few bible thumpers on it will smile and say "poor boy, we find in your favor for several million dollards"????? I am afraid I think you are living in a fantasy world and the only result is you will have your name and photo--with some unsavory details about sex trafficing--on the front page of your local paper. Originally Posted by Old-T
Sounds like you did not do proper research. Its lots of trigger happy ladies out there. However, you didn't keep up the end of the deal....Some ladies ARE trigger happy! Yes. Age has nothing to do with it! Some people are just crazy. I know a girl that put her boyfriend on nationalblacklist. Yes her boyfriend! He knew NOTHING about the hobby and lost his job over that listing. People are downright cruel!
You should have offered a "cancellation fee". You didn't get any services. For the chick who was on her "period", you could have gotten a bng, or a body rub. Did you leave angry, loud, pissed.
Hobby phone and get P411.
You have good providers that do right
And then you got others, gotta dot every I with those, and watch your back. Don't bother with those. Originally Posted by lisa.lisa0302