Why do no providers respond to me?

If someone is obviously casting a large net, I won't respond. Why should I? There's plenty of other ladies as it is. I refuse to run further relay races to get the prize. It's not that important to me since he's obviously not more selective and considerate.

Good example: Emails and other messages that do not greet me by my name and have the appearance of a draft/form letter.

9 out of 10 times, I never hear back from those. He's not even nice enough to let me know he's made other plans.

When I encounter this, that person is forever blocked from further contact because I know he'll do it again. I won't be on his recycled list. Solid dates are wanted. NOT scatter shooters.


Concerning a lot of back & forth emails that dance around and don't settle on firm decisions, squelch those. It's nonsense and accomplishes nothing. Either get to the point or move on. Everyone's time and efforts are valuable; quit wasting them.

Reminds me of the movie scene from Disney's Dumbo of the indecisive crows who can't make up their minds.



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Disagree, TT. Providers have told me they do not like it when a guy calls up and says:
"Are you free Wednesday thru Sunday?"
Her: "Yes...how about Wed. at 1:00?"
Him: "No, can't do that."
Her: "Thursday at 4:00?"
Him "No, can't do that."
Her: "Friday, 10;00AM??"
Him: Nope, that won't work..." And on and on...

You're the one who knows your work/playtime schedule; why should they try to guess it? And NCNS happen both ways; part of the hobby. That's why a lot of guys have Plans B, C, D to make sure they see someone at the time THEY want to see them.

If you have a fav Provider that you see every week, same day, same time and she blocks that time for you, it's beautiful. Originally Posted by Prolongus

A swing and a miss!

Give me a break Prolongus. That's completely different than asking a girl what her availability is tomorrow or Sunday or whatever. You're putting out this extreme worst case scenario that doesn't apply to this situation at all. Originally Posted by smockdoiley

QFT +1

Give me a break Prolongus. That's completely different than asking a girl what her availability is tomorrow or Sunday or whatever. You're putting out this extreme worst case scenario that doesn't apply to this situation at all. Originally Posted by smockdoiley

Guys, I am just relaying what a few Providers have told ME. Not talking about newbie Providers, either. And I didn't include Shea as one of the ones who told me.

Maybe you don't want to give her your preferred day and time because you don't want to hear "No, I can't see you then." Sometimes they will suggest earlier or later that day; it's happened to me.

smockdoily, your post was wondering why you don't get responses; you might consider your method is the wrong approach to some of these ladies.

And where DID you come up with that handle? Just curious...

This thread is just reason #164 why AMPs are so popular here.

Pardon my ignorance but what is an AMP?

Here's a typical email from me to a provider:

Hi Susie Q,
I saw your showcase, and I'd love to get together with you sometime. Are you available tomorrow? Thanks in advance, blahblah

Then at the bottom of the email I put that I have how many reviews on ECCIE, and then I drop my P411 id and state how many oks I have.
I'm sorry Shea if I don't fill out a job application and include scans of my passport and credit card information to verify my US citizenship and seriousness. You just sound like a bitter bar fly I wouldn't be interested in anyways.

I think another problem is that providers are still women, and women will always want a man to treat them like a princess and worship them. If I wanted a girlfriend, I'd get a girlfriend. I actually had a provider tell me that she'll do BJ if I do it to her first. I'm thinking are you joking? Who's paying who? So ladies like Shea who act like I need to impress them and distinguish myself will never get my time or money. If I wanted that kind of headache I'd just go to a bar and hustle for a freebie. I think my friend put it well when he told a girl, "I'm not paying you to come over, I'm paying you to leave afterwards."

There are many ladies to visit in this hobby. And us guys, well, WALDT. (We All Like Different Things.)

Smock, you and Shea would probably not be a good match. You want a certain type of gal. Probably younger, more willing to bend to your wishes.

I, on the other hand, would like a certain type of session, and though I have never seen her, I have seen many like Shea who have quite satisfied my desires. A gal who can make it feel like a true GFE rather than a sperm depository.

AMPs fill a bill. SC fill a desire. BP & CL have their place.

Once you find where you fit in this hobby, go play. Quit trying to make the players conform to your desires and just find partners who already fit the profile you desire.

I rarely have any problems getting responses from providers. But the providers I choose meet certain requirements of mine, and I assume I meet their requirements. I always start with a PM, once they are agreeable to see me, then we switch to emails/telephone. If they require more screening than I desire to provide, then we part, hopefully on a good note. My notes are never high pressure, and I fully understand a gal who wishes to screen heavily. If my reputation here is not enuff, then we move on in our respective directions.

And Smock, I can tell you that you need to make sure you locate your niche providers, cuz your posts are not getting you any brownie points with a lot of the ladies here. Part of screening is seeing what kind of person you are in your posts. If they sense a lack of respect, many ladies will assume that will be a similar attitude you portray BCD, and will decide they will be unable to provide the high level of satisfaction to you they normally give, so they will decide to not schedule with you, perhaps they will even put you on ignore.

FYI, if you are on ignore, the lady will not even get you PMs I believe. So she will never know she missed your note to her.

Pardon my ignorance but what is an AMP? Originally Posted by smockdoiley

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Thanks Prolongus.

Actually since posting these articles I've been getting lots of emails so I'm not sure I'm that off base. I'm sure I'm offending some ladies but I'm not trying to see every girl on here nor is this a serious lifestyle for me.

I'm sorry Shea if I don't fill out a job application and include scans of my passport and credit card information to verify my US citizenship and seriousness. You just sound like a bitter bar fly I wouldn't be interested in anyways. Originally Posted by smockdoiley

I think another problem is that providers are still women, and women will always want a man to treat them like a princess and worship them. If I wanted a girlfriend, I'd get a girlfriend. I actually had a provider tell me that she'll do BJ if I do it to her first. I'm thinking are you joking? Who's paying who? So ladies like Shea who act like I need to impress them and distinguish myself will never get my time or money. If I wanted that kind of headache I'd just go to a bar and hustle for a freebie. I think my friend put it well when he told a girl, "I'm not paying you to come over, I'm paying you to leave afterwards." Originally Posted by smockdoiley

Wow, I believe I'd think twice before hitting "enter" on comments like this. With no reviews it's obvious that I'm not active in the Indy part of the hobby, and I don't have enough references or OK's to get in the door to see Shea. But I've read enough to deduce that she is deserving of a bit more respect.

Here's a typical email from me to a provider:

Hi Susie Q,
I saw your showcase, and I'd love to get together with you sometime. Are you available tomorrow? Thanks in advance, blahblah

Then at the bottom of the email I put that I have how many reviews on ECCIE, and then I drop my P411 id and state how many oks I have.
I'm sorry Shea if I don't fill out a job application and include scans of my passport and credit card information to verify my US citizenship and seriousness. You just sound like a bitter bar fly I wouldn't be interested in anyways. Originally Posted by smockdoiley

Search/Research on Eccie but send request thru P411.