Nationalize BP

Sa artman.....you're right man ....you're right.... sure you are, BTW your IQ is higher than all of us together.

No argument there. I never said to stop drilling. I like my cheap gas. Problem is, it's not us doing the drilling is it? Time will tell exactly who are the guilty parties in this mess, in the meantime I'm going to blame the greedy bastard Cheney. His task force passed on the fail safes in order to save a buck while awarding Halliburton cementing contracts (which are known to be spotty). BP has operated without much oversight off our waters, and thanks to price point triggers being ignored, without giving much back to the US. I can't help but think that if one digs deeper, his hands will be in there somewhere.

Good point RK.

Sa_artman we are all greedy bastards! You see how we cried when gas went to 4-5 dollars? Come on man , you can't have it both ways. WE are set up as a nation to run on oil....cheap oil, I might add. What do you suggest...even Obama knows that we need a transitional period to go to WTF ever they think we are going to.

After the Russian nuke disaster we built no nukes. What happens with spent fuel???????? There are no easy solutions my brother.

Should we all start riding bikes? To fucn hot down here in Houston for that! LOL Originally Posted by WTF

Sa artman.....you're right man ....you're right.... sure you are, BTW your IQ is higher than all of us together. Originally Posted by Woody of TX

Easy there hoss. Just said you. Don't make shit up. Don't recall mudslinging at the onset.

[quote]No argument there. I never said to stop drilling. I like my cheap gas. Problem is, it's not us doing the drilling is it? Time will tell exactly who are the guilty parties in this mess, in the meantime I'm going to blame the greedy bastard Cheney. His task force passed on the fail safes in order to save a buck while awarding Halliburton cementing contracts (which are known to be spotty). BP has operated without much oversight off our waters, and thanks to price point triggers being ignored, without giving much back to the US. I can't help but think that if one digs deeper, his hands will be in there somewhere.[/quote}]

Geez Marie. Like talking to a stone. I give up! From now on it's up to youse guys, WTF and Atlcomedy.

Geez Marie. Like talking to a stone. I give up! From now on it's up to youse guys, WTF and Atlcomedy. Originally Posted by John Bull

Actually, some of 'em a dumber than a box of rocks.

I was just wondering whether Mr. Holier Than Thou was calling the some 450,000 sharholders the greedy ones, or maybe it is the some 80,000 employees, or maybe even the hundreds of thousands of customers and vendors and their employees that are the greedy ones. But from his "oh, so high" perch...it seems that he is the only one who can judge the greedy ones and the opressed. We are so blessed to have him in our midst.

And Little Stevie...my mirror is just fine. I look in it all the time. Some of us know the history of the blind man...and his integrity. I'm not sure you really want to go there buddy.

Spoken like a true dumbass Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Sometimes I read what some of you clowns write and wonder how you come up with enough coin to bed a decent woman. Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Apparently no level of IQ is required to post a comment here, but you do have your right to express your thoughts even you have no idea what you are talking about, pointing fingers before getting the facts, yes you fit right in to my previous post, the Un-Educated. Originally Posted by Woody of TX

That one i posted in it's entirety just to enjoy the irony in it. But i digress.

And, WTF, some of your your dumber than dirt friends/like-minded posters are probably too dumb to realize.... Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Geez Marie. Like talking to a stone. Originally Posted by John Bull

Actually, some of 'em a dumber than a box of rocks. Originally Posted by Rudyard K

I'm sensing a trend here.

It just seems that all of this would have been easier to deal with on land. How does perceived damage to pristine Anwar compare to dead wildlife and ruined ecosystems. There needs to be consistency and a coherent policy. You have green wackos going epileptic over drilling on land where no one lives and no one can see it, yet there are platforms in sight of Huntington Beach in California and all over populated areas in Texas.

The fact of the matter is we need oil and we need to figure out the safest and most efficient way to get it. For those that say we don't, then I suggest they try living in a society that does not depend on oil and see how reality is so different than fantasy.

Reality is that Pocahontas was not pretty, smelled bad and did not spent her day talking to the forest creatures.

Actually, some of 'em a dumber than a box of rocks.

I was just wondering whether Mr. Holier Than Thou was calling the some 450,000 sharholders the greedy ones, or maybe it is the some 80,000 employees, or maybe even the hundreds of thousands of customers and vendors and their employees that are the greedy ones. But from his "oh, so high" perch...it seems that he is the only one who can judge the greedy ones and the opressed. We are so blessed to have him in our midst.

And Little Stevie...my mirror is just fine. I look in it all the time. Some of us know the history of the blind man...and his integrity. I'm not sure you really want to go there buddy. Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Sure, if you want to spin it that way. You'd make a good politician. Your hypocrisy on the 'high perch' is laughable. Jesus could learn from your humility. So what makes your opinion so valid and others not? With 300+ million in the US, I surely doubt the majority of Americans give a rats-ass what happens to BP and it's 450,000 shareholders (including you) after this. In the immortal words of Stan Lee- 'nuff said.

Some of us know the history of the blind man...and his integrity. I'm not sure you really want to go there buddy. Originally Posted by Rudyard K

NOW is as good a time as any. I'm not running from anything. Least of all, YOU! I've had the same handle on this site that I had at the other one. Can you say the same or was the one you ditched more like ......? (connect the dots)

Lay it all out. I'm here.

He deep drilling some chickie checking out his Blow out preventer?


Where you hiding PJ? Don't tell me your down there cleaning up beach's.

It just seems that all of this would have been easier to deal with on land....here needs to be consistency and a coherent policy. You have green wackos going epileptic over drilling on land where no one lives and no one can see it, yet there are platforms in sight of Huntington Beach in California and all over populated areas in Texas.

The fact of the matter is we need oil and we need to figure out the safest and most efficient way to get it. Originally Posted by oden

Yes, but as the oil and gas become more decentralized and spread out between deposits, the methods have become more damaging.

The BP well was a free flowing well unlike most of those now drilled or extracted through shale formations. Even on my own land, I've seen saltwater rise to the surface and kill scores of acres of pasture land.

These deep water high pressure flowing wells are akin to the old "gushers" that used to be common in many places due to the pressure on the underground reservoirs. Most of these fields are still under lots of pressure because they are to date almost untapped formations from a volume standpoint.

There are no easy answers and for more oil extraction to occur, gas and oil prices will have to support the technology necessary to get at those reserves and new discoveries.

Figure out how to deal with permafrost economically and Mother Russia could supply the world for another century or more.

As oil prices rise other options will become more economically feasible but without much more stringent safety regulations and expert inspection to insure compliance, we are in for many more episodes of irreparable destruction.

Where you hiding PJ? Don't tell me your down there cleaning up beach's. Originally Posted by WTF

Vacation.

Vacation. Originally Posted by pjorourke

Enjoy my brother!

You ain't missing much here

And I suppose it was all W's fault too. Originally Posted by John Bull

I was channel surfing last night and saw a bit of an interview with Laura Bush. She said blaming George is now a standard joke within their family -- whenever anything goes wrong.

I was channel surfing last night and saw a bit of an interview with Laura Bush. She said blaming George is now a standard joke within their family -- whenever anything goes wrong. Originally Posted by pjorourke

That's kinda funny.

The irony is as it relates to good-natured ribbing about everyday activities there is some truth to it. Like, "Dammit W, I can't believe all this traffic...back when you were CiC we never had traffic..." etc.