Flynn reverses guilty plea!

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I believe the Judge over you. Originally Posted by WTF
Of course you do. That's because it fits your "theory"!

I believe the official documents from the Court's docket.

And after seeing the two nonidentical orders containing different language in the order, which is why the latest order is LONGER, I also believe Judge Napolitano over YOU and/or your 2016 cut and paste article that fails to accurately quote the language from the February 2018 order of the U.S. District Judge.

You're already on record as lacking any knowledge with respect to criminal cases, so your opinion is worthless. What was the "something" for which Zimmerman was convicted for killing Martin as you predicted?
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  • 02-22-2018, 08:17 AM
Of course you do. That's because it fits your "theory"!

I believe the official documents from the Court's docket.

And after seeing the two nonidentical orders containing different language in the order, which is why the latest order is LONGER, I also believe Judge Napolitano over YOU and/or your 2016 cut and paste article that fails to accurately quote the language from the February 2018 order of the U.S. District Judge.

? Originally Posted by LexusLover
So you think Mike Flynn is going to change his plea based on what you saw?

Tell us LexyLiar where did you see the two orders?

Can you post a link showing that the Judge is a liar. Because that is wtf you are saying.

I'm not lying. I have used the link provided by the dumbass OP who lied about Flynn changing his plea.


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  • 02-22-2018, 08:28 AM
You're correct.

And likewise you don't know what he HASN'T TOLD HIM!

Have you seen FLYNN'S plea bargain agreement? Originally Posted by LexusLover
Do you want to bet that Mike Flynn changes his plea agreement?

Come on counselor put you money where your mouth is....in this thread your mouth has been on bambino's dick!

Judge signs a routine order...you and bambino flip the fuck out!

And while I have your distorting ass here....have those FBI agents you said would be charged, been charged yet?



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  • 02-22-2018, 09:42 AM
Flynn reverses guilty plea!

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/19/...al-corruption/ Originally Posted by bambino
I still have not heard where Flynn reversed his guilty plea bambino.

Could you point out just where and when he did that.

Are you and LexyLiar his new lawyers?

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I still have not heard where Flynn reversed his guilty plea bambino.

Could you point out just where and when he did that.

Are you and LexyLiar his new lawyers?

Originally Posted by WTF
I’ll let you know when he does. Then you and LL and argue about standing orders.
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  • 02-22-2018, 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bambino
I’ll let you know when he does. Then you and LL and argue about standing orders.



I’ll let you know when he does. Then you and LL and argue about standing orders. Originally Posted by bambino
You already stated he has changed his guilty plea....has he changed his mind not to change his guilty plea?

Are you trying to convince him to reverse his reversal?

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Now I'm not going to claim I have something big enough to fill in your ass but I think it will do nicely.

Of course you do. That's because it fits your "theory"!

I believe the official documents from the Court's docket.

And after seeing the two nonidentical orders containing different language in the order, which is why the latest order is LONGER, I also believe Judge Napolitano over YOU and/or your 2016 cut and paste article that fails to accurately quote the language from the February 2018 order of the U.S. District Judge.

You're already on record as lacking any knowledge with respect to criminal cases, so your opinion is worthless. What was the "something" for which Zimmerman was convicted for killing Martin as you predicted? Originally Posted by LexusLover
First off I want to say the only reason I let you come to the adult table was on the off chance you might bite bambitcho's dick off when I backhand you into the middle of next week.
And no, you don't get to stand here till you stop bleeding.

Try to keep up now.

Where did the evidence about what Flynn and the Russian talked about come from?
From recording the Russian's phone calls. He is not a US citizen and unlike flynn, he registered as a foreign agent. FISA ordered the ambassador's calls monitored because of national security. Funny thing is that flynn was told in November it was almost a certainty that the ambassador's calls were being monitored.

Still with me? The FBI knew what they had talked about. They brought flynn in to talk to him. During that interview, they asked, among other things, if he had discussed sanctions with the ambassador.
He claimed he hadn't. He had just lied to the FBI.

Now you sit and think about what possible evidence could be held back that would cast a doubt on his guilt.
Sit there and wonder if I'm going to try and kick those fake "vanity" balls of yours up into your mouth.
You know the answer to that.
How do I know flynn lied? Because he signed a confession included in his plea bargain. What's that you say? Could I please let your lazy fucking ass see the charge sheet and the plea bargain document?
Of course, I will.

You know I feel bad when your lower lip hangs below your chin.
So let me tell you something that will make you feel better as well as giving you an out.

You knew that Judge Sullivan is a Clinton appointee, right?

(BHARARARARARARARAR)

Now shut the fuck up about your orders. Try to think what possible evidence they hold back that could possibly change things and allow your commie buddy to bail on his commitment. Read the whole thing (all 18 pages), Matlock. They own his balls and he's going to sing like a soprano in a boy's choir.
You're just another moron on putin's smokescreen wagon.
Unwittingly stupid as the best possible face. Or traitorous being more likely.
Why else would it be so important to you to get a confessed enemy of the state off on a technically?

BTW- Page 10 of 10 pretty much sums things up.


https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...92-1-0-2-1.pdf

The scandal over Mike Flynn's secret talks with the Russians, explained


Late Thursday night, the Washington Post reported that Flynn had called Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak on December 29, the same day that Obama had slapped new sanctions on Russia in retaliation for its hack of the US election. The conversation covered the sanctions, and, according to two officials, suggested that the Trump administration would be rolling back the sanctions in the future.

That would mean Flynn had been actively trying to undermine Obama administration policy while not yet in office — a big, questionably legal no-no. Indeed, the FBI is currently investigating the content of the Flynn calls.

The Trump administration repeatedly and publicly denied that Flynn had spoken to Kislyak about sanctions, even enlisting Vice President Mike Pence to back him up in the media. Flynn himself told the Post on Wednesday that he hadn’t talked about sanctions. But the Post spoke to nine former and current US officials with knowledge of the call, which was actually recorded by US intelligence agencies (as all such high-level calls to the Russian ambassador are). Subsequent reporting from other outlets backed the Post up.

On Thursday, Flynn, through his spokesperson, backed away from the denial. The spokesperson said Flynn “indicated that while he had no recollection of discussing sanctions, he couldn’t be certain that the topic never came up.”

All of which means that it’s very likely that Flynn lied about the content of his talks with the Russian ambassador. That leaves two big outstanding questions:

Did Flynn lie to Pence about sanctions, or did Pence knowingly lie to the American public?
Did Flynn lie to FBI investigators, too?
The answers could help determine whether Flynn keeps his job — and, potentially, whether he faces criminal charges.

Why the new report is such a problem
Questions about Flynn’s relationship with Russia go all the way back to the campaign, where he served as one of Trump’s top national security staffers. Flynn has spoken very positively about the prospect of partnering with Putin’s regime to fight terrorism, and repeatedly appeared on Russia’s English-language propaganda outlet, RT. Flynn was so in with RT that he had been paid to give a speech at its 10th anniversary dinner in Moscow — where he sat at the head table with Putin himself.


So when Obama imposed sanctions on Russia in retaliation for the election hack, the widespread expectation was that Flynn would work to roll them back once in office. But attempting to undermine them before taking power — on literally the day they were imposed — was something else. It could, arguably, violate the Logan Act, a law which prohibits people outside the executive branch from making foreign policy on behalf of the US administration (though no one has ever been prosecuted under this act).

The first public report of the call came on January 12, in a column by the Washington Post’s David Ignatius. Follow-ups came swiftly, with administration sources saying the two men had spoken multiple times on the 29th but that they hadn’t discussed sanctions.

That rang hollow to many close observers of the Kremlin, who noted that just one day later Putin announced that he would not retaliate against the US for the sanctions. That was a sharp break with Putin’s normal policy of hitting back hard for any slight, real or perceived. It makes a lot more sense if Putin had just gotten assurances from the next national security adviser that the sanctions would soon go away.

The Trump administration denied that the call was about the sanctions. Trump spokesperson Sean Spicer told reporters that call had grown out of an exchange of holiday greetings on December 25 — a questionable story given that this year’s Russian Orthodox Christmas was actually on January 9, 2017.

On January 15, the White House rolled out a heavyweight: Vice President Pence went on Fox and CBS’ widely watched Sunday talk shows to sell the Christmas-not-sanctions story.

“It was initiated when on Christmas Day, he had sent a text to the Russian ambassador to express not only Christmas wishes but sympathy for the loss of life in [a Russian] airline crash that took place” at the time, Pence said during a January 15 appearance on CBS’s Face the Nation. “It was strictly coincidental that they had a conversation, they did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia.”

The general outlines of the administration’s story meandered and wavered in some weird ways, as Just Security’s Kate Brannen documents in depth. But one on issue, the Trump team had maintained a clear line: Flynn had not spoken about sanctions with Kislyak on December 29.

HE MIGHT WANT TO START POLISHING HIS RESUME
Initially, this seemed tenable. On January 23, the Washington Post (which clearly owns this story) reported that the FBI counterintelligence agents had been investigating Flynn’s phone calls in late December but hadn’t found any evidence of illegal contact with Russia after an initial scan of the calls.

“The FBI in late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador to the United States and retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn — national security adviser to then-President-elect Trump — but has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government,” the Post explained.

It looked like Phonecallgate might die.

The new Post report, though, does more than simply bring the story back to life. It goes even further, using a large number of sources to paint a picture of an administration where the national security adviser either knowingly lied to the vice president about the content of his conversations with Kislyak (leading Pence to unintentionally relay false information to the American public) or one in which Pence himself deliberately lied.


“All [nine] officials said Flynn’s references to the election-related sanctions were explicit,” the Post’s Greg Miller, Adam Entous and Ellen Nakashima write. “Two of those officials went further, saying that Flynn urged Russia not to overreact to the penalties being imposed by President Barack Obama, making clear that the two sides would be in position to review the matter after Trump was sworn in as president.”

The quality and quantity of the sourcing was so persuasive that even Flynn, who stuck to the old Trump line when the Post reporters first contacted him, eventually had to back down. Moreover, the Post reported, the FBI counterintelligence probe into Flynn’s call is still active.

While the FBI was very unlikely to prosecute Flynn under the Logan Act, lying to FBI investigators is a whole different kettle of fish. If FBI agents had asked him, specifically, about the content of the calls, and he denied speaking to Kislyak about sanctions in the way he had publicly, then he could be (to use a technical legal phrase) in big trouble.

Pence isn’t waiting for the FBI to finish its investigation to seemingly throw Flynn under the bus. Three administration sources told CNN’s Elizabeth Landers on Friday that Flynn had not informed Pence that he had spoken about sanctions when he appeared on TV. “It’s a problem,” one of Landers’ sources said.

This is exactly what one would do if one was getting ready to fire Flynn — to pin this mess on him entirely as a way of immunizing the broader administration from the charge of deceiving the American people. Reportedly, Flynn was already in trouble with the Trump team, on both personal and professional grounds, even before this started.

Flynn “has gotten on the nerves of Mr. Trump and other administration officials because of his sometimes overbearing demeanor,” the New York Times’ Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush write. He “has further diminished his internal standing by presiding over a chaotic and opaque NSC transition process that prioritized the hiring of military officials over civilian experts recommended to him by his own team.”

Does this mean Flynn will be fired? No, absolutely not. Flynn is a longtime Trump partisan, and Trump values loyalty greatly.

It does, though, mean that he might want to start polishing his resume. As Chris Christie learned during the transition, Trump is perfectly happy to toss a loyalist to the wolves if they get ensnared in a scandal that shows little sign of going away. And that’s exactly where Flynn is now.
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Fake News. Trump is getting less and less press. People are getting sick of Him. Do you realize that not many Trump supporters are in here. The reason you boys are so hateful and loud mouthed in here? Becauce you are to big a cowards to voice your opinion inthe RW. Afraid some liberal like me will put the smack down on you
Fake News. Trump is getting less and less press. People are getting sick of Him. Do you realize that not many Trump supporters are in here. The reason you boys are so hateful and loud mouthed in here? Becauce you are to big a cowards to voice your opinion inthe RW. Afraid some liberal like me will put the smack down on you Originally Posted by themystic
You are starting to sound like Lube Wide Ass Junior, MISTAKE, what with the threats of a " smack down " HAHAHAHAHAHAHA And we all know where HE is now !! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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  • 02-22-2018, 10:45 AM
LexusLover seems to forget what Flynn lied about and how it may lead to the collusion door.

The Russians meddled in the election and it seems to Trump's benefit. Obama put sanctions on Russia for doing so....Flynn either on his own(highly unlikely) or with orders from higher ups told the Russians not to worry those sanctions , they would be reversed. This was done during the transaction and Flynn lied about doing so to the FBI.

Does anyone wonder why Trump is so soft on Putin? Please spare me those softball talking points about arms sale. That is a nothingburger.
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You are starting to sound like Lube Wide Ass Junior, MISTAKE, .... Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
If IT is not he, it's his twin brother!
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First off I want to say the only reason I let you come to the adult table .... Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
I had to break it to you junior, but that seat with the hole in the middle you're sitting on is not ....

... "the adult table"!

It's your toilet training aid.

Do you make up this shit before you get drunk, or afterwards?

Don't dine out of the bowl beneath you for lunch.
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If IT is not he, it's his twin brother! Originally Posted by LexusLover
I thought we were friends Lex? Why the dis>
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  • 02-22-2018, 02:25 PM
I thought we were friends Lex? Why the dis> Originally Posted by themystic
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I thought we were friends Lex? Why the dis> Originally Posted by themystic
Oh, you do know him! WTF knows him also.