GIFTS two...

There still seems to be two groups.

1. Providers are the golf course and we put the balls in the holes. There is no need to drop extra cash on the course.
2. Providers are people who render a service. There is no need to pay them extra for the service or for them to receive extra compensation when they do it well. Yet, when one nice lady brought a cupcake to our session with a candle on it for my birthday, it was nice! I'm sure the lady doesn't remember me or the cupcake, but to me the last thing was that it was foolish. I still remember.

Which category do you fall into 1 or 2? Originally Posted by heinz5710

So now we have one group who doesn't give gifts, and the other group doesn't give gifts, but they get gifts from providers???

I must have missed something...

So now we have one group who doesn't give gifts, and the other group doesn't give gifts, but they get gifts from providers???

I must have missed something... Originally Posted by Wakeuр

There seem to be a few groups missing. ijs

I'm glad you've finally decided to see the light Originally Posted by Charlotte Breeze

I have.. That NO provider is gift worthy. I.E. NONE. NIL. NOT A SOUL. NONE AT ALL. ZILCH. NO ONE.


There think that got the point across.

But in more simplistic terms you might can understand..

Why gift someone your paying? Oh wait I know why...

Because you fail to grasp the concept you are paying her in a business arraignment.

She isn't your buddy/friend/next ex wife she is an object you bought to play with and send packing after your done.

So why fuck up the business and give her any form of gift?

Well unless someone's mommy dropped you on the head repeatedly as an infant and they cannot in any way shape or form grasp the concept of this business.

... Well unless someone ... cannot in any way shape or form grasp the concept of this business. Originally Posted by bladtinzu

And it would seem that you fail to grasp the concept of Life. Of which "this business" is but a subset.

Or, put another way: can not see the forest for the trees.

Or, just a good troll. In which case, well played.

I have.. That NO provider is gift worthy. I.E. NONE. NIL. NOT A SOUL. NONE AT ALL. ZILCH. NO ONE.


There think that got the point across.

But in more simplistic terms you might can understand..

Why gift someone your paying? Oh wait I know why...

Because you fail to grasp the concept you are paying her in a business arraignment.

She isn't your buddy/friend/next ex wife she is an object you bought to play with and send packing after your done.

So why fuck up the business and give her any form of gift?

Well unless someone's mommy dropped you on the head repeatedly as an infant and they cannot in any way shape or form grasp the concept of this business. Originally Posted by bladtinzu

You highlighted this, and said you agreed 10,000%

I'm not going to say no provider is gift worthy

In english, that means the exact opposite of what you keep railing on about. You keep saying that no provider is gift worthy, yet agree 10,000% with a post that says that while he may not give gifts, that doesn't mean that no one should get any? Even if he can't see a reason to give gifts at this point in time for himself? And yet you want to call everyone else stupid.

You clearly have issues with women, and it colors every post you make. I can feel sorry for you for it, but no matter how much you insist, it doesn't change the fact that millions of people in the world give gifts to people they pay every single day without causing the entire world to go up in flames and without destroying the business relationship. This industry is no different. Some will, some won't, and some will insist on bitching because of their own personal issues.

You highlighted this, and said you agreed 10,000%



In english, that means the exact opposite of what you keep railing on about. You keep saying that no provider is gift worthy, yet agree 10,000% with a post that says that while he may not give gifts, that doesn't mean that no one should get any? Even if he can't see a reason to give gifts at this point in time for himself? And yet you want to call everyone else stupid.

You clearly have issues with women, and it colors every post you make. I can feel sorry for you for it, but no matter how much you insist, it doesn't change the fact that millions of people in the world give gifts to people they pay every single day without causing the entire world to go up in flames and without destroying the business relationship. This industry is no different. Some will, some won't, and some will insist on bitching because of their own personal issues. Originally Posted by Charlotte Breeze

No issues with women. They are good for a few things and beyond that nothing. I just acknowledge what they are useful for and leave it at that.

And I forgot to edit that guys post so sue me.. Honestly that would be the only hope of getting a penny out of me since you seem to lack serious skills like understanding hooker-ism is a business. Not some idiotic give it forward gift-a-thon.

No issues with women. They are good for a few things and beyond that nothing. I just acknowledge what they are useful for and leave it at that.

And I forgot to edit that guys post so sue me.. Honestly that would be the only hope of getting a penny out of me since you seem to lack serious skills like understanding hooker-ism is a business. Not some idiotic give it forward gift-a-thon. Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Yes, taking care of my customers and making sure I don't alienate them is really not understanding hookerism

Yes, taking care of my customers and making sure I don't alienate them is really not understanding hookerism Originally Posted by Charlotte Breeze

So your giving gifts to your customers then?

Yes, taking care of my customers and making sure I don't alienate them is really not understanding hookerism Originally Posted by Charlotte Breeze

Charlotte seems to have a better grasp on hookerism than most. She knows that some guys want to create an experience that feels more like a date and bring a gift. She also knows that there are guys that want to come in and bang her and leave...

I think she gets it quite well...

Charlotte seems to have a better grasp on hookerism than most. She knows that some guys want to create an experience that feels more like a date and bring a gift. She also knows that there are guys that want to come in and bang her and leave...

I think she gets it quite well... Originally Posted by LilMynx69

I think most providers have figured it out. I also think each gentlemen knows what he wants and desires to achieve. Some gentlemen think it is like buying a box of candy. You buy the box, eat the sweets and leave the wrappers for someone else to pick up. Other gentlemen realize that there is more involved than just a box. They show appreciation to the server and the preparation taken for them and want the provider to know they did a good job. Things are what they are. Is the provider just a box or a bag? I think it is up to you. Calling those of us who have given gifts idiots let us know where you stand.

This is a service industry, not unlike a bartender or a waiter. If the service is good I leave a tip, if the service is really good I leave a better tip or gratuity. It is nothing more or less than a little gratitude for someone going the extra step to make sure that the service is the best it can be. If a provider is extra nice and pleasent and takes the extra time or makes the extra effort to make me extra comfortable is the orgasm any more intense, probably not, but is the experience more enjoyable, yes. For me,I am purchasing a brief fantasy, that I know is a fantasy, but enjoy it all the same. The fantasy is that for the hour or so this beautiful young lady really is interested in the old man and wants to show her love by making him happy. Everyone knows it's a fantasy, but if for that brief time the provider can pull it off, damn it is fun. So, If you just want a quick orgasm, anyone will do and the price quoted and agreed should be paid. If you want a brief loving experience and can find the right lady, and she goes the extra mile, why not drop a tip, or gratuity. How much $ have you left on the bar for a person who just poured a drink for you?

This is a service industry, not unlike a bartender or a waiter. If the service is good I leave a tip, if the service is really good I leave a better tip or gratuity. It is nothing more or less than a little gratitude for someone going the extra step to make sure that the service is the best it can be. If a provider is extra nice and pleasent and takes the extra time or makes the extra effort to make me extra comfortable is the orgasm any more intense, probably not, but is the experience more enjoyable, yes. For me,I am purchasing a brief fantasy, that I know is a fantasy, but enjoy it all the same. The fantasy is that for the hour or so this beautiful young lady really is interested in the old man and wants to show her love by making him happy. Everyone knows it's a fantasy, but if for that brief time the provider can pull it off, damn it is fun. So, If you just want a quick orgasm, anyone will do and the price quoted and agreed should be paid. If you want a brief loving experience and can find the right lady, and she goes the extra mile, why not drop a tip, or gratuity. How much $ have you left on the bar for a person who just poured a drink for you? Originally Posted by olderguy1948

You hit the nail on the head. There are those here who don't understand your logic. If we were to make a comparison with a restaurant, they feel that providing is like the meal you get. The meal and the server are the same to them. In comparison, they walk in to the restaurant as if the meal is expensive enough and they wouldn't be in a restaurant if it were not expected that they should be served. Therefore in the restaurant, no tip gift or gratuity would be required. In the session, no extras need ever be provided. Their logic makes sense except for the fact that most of us know tips to a waiter are expected. It isn't that clear with providers and each makes their own judgment. Where I see these threads getting off target is the fact that those who think providers should never be tipped or gifted attack personally those of us who think those items can be within reason. In a way, I don't blame the non givers for having some animosity. After all, if a pattern were established as it is in restaurants, then the cost for the service would be increased. I think that is the bottom line. Since it is all a matter of money and personal choice, I think I'm going to go out today and buy my favorite lady something nice. Now if that makes things more expensive for those who simply want to hire the lady, do the lady, and say goodbye to her, TOUGH! You aren't a fool for wanting the same lady at a lower price and I am not a fool because I see something in her that you don't. In the scheme of things, it doesn't matter to some how the lady perceives them. They only plan to be there for an hour. To me, it matters how the lady perceives me. I'm too old to be much of a thrill in the sack but it is nice when a lady treats me as a gentlemen and not just a customer. Not all the ladies I see get tips or gifts. Yet, when a woman treats me well, I consider that to be a very great gift on their part. The few who make my ATF list are the ones who do things for me not just to me.

My gift for you heinz:

Or call it a Tip if you prefer.

I would be pleased if you chose to use it on occasion.