it is nigh impossible to have any reasonable discussion with a truther of any sort.
for they can be shown fact after fact after fact and proof after proof and eye witness after eye witness, but then they will say, did you know there was a nut that wasn't fully tightened on a bolt on a load bearing wall and how did that happen, eh?
they take some small, unconnected to the real cause, inconsequential thing, and make it the missing link to the truth, instead of accepting the simple ness of the real cause
perhaps pete carroll was really in under the control of gamblers and called the pass play at the goal line to keep his family from being killled because did you know he was seen in las vegas last august in a restaurant in a deep discussion