- CuteOldGuy
- 11-07-2011, 10:42 PM
I'm not a Republican. I just think if the press is going to try to lynch Cain, they need to explain how Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, Chris Dodd and the others were let off. I thought you were in favor of "fairness." I guess giving liberals a pass, and lynching non-liberals is fair. In your mind.
- TexTushHog
- 11-08-2011, 06:24 AM
The press doesn't give a shit one way or the other. It's just a way to sell papers. They don't care who the guy in the barrel is. Sex sells.
What is interesting on this one is that it's the establishment Republicans who have an interest in derailing Cain. You haven't hear one elected Democrat make one statement on the issue. Only the consultant are even talking about it and they're just pissing all over themselves with delight at seeing 1) the TeaNut astroturf plot blow up in the Republicans face; and 2) as a result this unelectable disaster leading the polls on the Republican side. Now, he's embroiled in a scandal that doesn't hurt him much with the R primary voters, but will kill him in the general. And his butchered the handling of it and shown himself even more clearly to not be ready for prime time.
So now the Republican establishment has to take this guy down or else loose all hope of winning an imminently winnable election.
And speaking of which, as if on cue, the Republican establishment's in-house moralizer (unless gambling is the subject), Bob Bennett:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/07/opinio...t-allegations/
Also the right wing NYDaily News:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/h...ticle-1.974055
See, it's not the Democrats. Hell, other than the crazy bitch from Minnesota, there is no one we'd rather run against than Cain.
What is interesting on this one is that it's the establishment Republicans who have an interest in derailing Cain. You haven't hear one elected Democrat make one statement on the issue. Only the consultant are even talking about it and they're just pissing all over themselves with delight at seeing 1) the TeaNut astroturf plot blow up in the Republicans face; and 2) as a result this unelectable disaster leading the polls on the Republican side. Now, he's embroiled in a scandal that doesn't hurt him much with the R primary voters, but will kill him in the general. And his butchered the handling of it and shown himself even more clearly to not be ready for prime time.
So now the Republican establishment has to take this guy down or else loose all hope of winning an imminently winnable election.
And speaking of which, as if on cue, the Republican establishment's in-house moralizer (unless gambling is the subject), Bob Bennett:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/07/opinio...t-allegations/
Also the right wing NYDaily News:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/h...ticle-1.974055
See, it's not the Democrats. Hell, other than the crazy bitch from Minnesota, there is no one we'd rather run against than Cain.
- TexTushHog
- 11-08-2011, 06:30 AM
- CuteOldGuy
- 11-08-2011, 08:19 AM
I think the Bennett piece says what I have been saying, except he does question Cain's character more than I do. But he is being fair, and he did question Clinton's character. I just don't appreciate those who gave Clinton a pass jump all over Cain.
I probably shouldn't have even gotten into this, because it makes me look like a Cain supporter. I was attacking the press. Cain is really a non issue, he would have screwed up his campaign anyway.
I probably shouldn't have even gotten into this, because it makes me look like a Cain supporter. I was attacking the press. Cain is really a non issue, he would have screwed up his campaign anyway.
- WTF
- 11-08-2011, 08:26 AM
- Marshall
- 11-08-2011, 09:22 AM
- Marshall
- 11-08-2011, 10:18 AM
ShadowGov Clinton Rape Home
Clinton “in fact”
raped Juanita
Bill Clinton’s rape of campaign supporter Juanita Broaddrick, “was an event that in fact took place” according to a Wall Street Journal piece, Feb. 19, 1999. “To hear the details of her story and the statements of the corroborating witnesses, was to understand that this was an event that in fact took place.”
Read here the particulars of this crime that were reported fleetingly by the Wall Street Journal, Dateline NBC 2-25-99, and the Washington Post 2-20-99. A Denver radio program, Bob Enyart Live, conducted a corroborating interview with Norma Kelsay, the nurse who found Juanita shortly after the rape, bruised, sobbing, and with lips swollen twice their size. You can find that interview at ShadowGov.com, along with links to transcripts of the above mentioned reports.
Juanita Broaddrick, a 35-year-old campaign supporter, met Bill Clinton in April 1978 when he made a campaign stop at the nursing home she had owned for five years. Broaddrick says that Bill Clinton invited her
to his Little Rock campaign headquarters. Juanita, and her employee, Norma Rogers (now Norma Kelsay), were scheduled to attend an American College of Nursing Home Administrators seminar in the state capital at the Camelot Inn the next week on April 25, 1978. Juanita says that she therefore accepted Clinton’s invitation to visit the campaign headquarters. Broaddrick says that she called the campaign headquarters when she arrived and was surprised that the aide who answered the phone had expected her call and told her to call Bill Clinton at his apartment.
The Meeting
Broaddrick says she called Clinton and they arranged to meet at the coffee shop in her hotel. Broaddrick says Clinton then changed their plans moving the meeting to her room, where they could have beverages delivered, since he said the coffee shop was too noisy for their meeting. Broaddrick says Clinton made small talk for less than five minutes, pointing to a jail which he said he would refurbish when elected, which jail media accounts report being later demolished.
The Rape
Broaddrick says Clinton then startled her by embracing her and saying, “We’re both married people.” Juanita says she responded that she had no such interest in him and that she was in love with David Broaddrick, whom she later married in 1981. Broaddrick says Clinton persisted and forced her onto the bed and used his strength to hold her down.
According to Broaddrick’s account Clinton tore apart her pantyhose at the crotch, that he inflicted pain when he penetrated her, and that he bit her lips which also inflicted pain. Norma Rogers says she found Juanita on the same bed shortly afterward, in a state of shock, her pantyhose torn in the crotch.
Broaddrick says that after his ejaculation, Clinton told her not to worry about becoming pregnant for he had the mumps when he was a child and that he was sterile. Juanita first publicly told of Clinton’s claim of sterility in 1999 when Chelsea was about 20 years old. He was reportedly the first president who has kept his medical records secret.
The Immediate Aftermath
Juanita says she had “felt paralyzed,” and was not at all thinking about pregnancy, and that when Clinton mentioned sterility she started to cry. Juanita says that his behavior and words as he was leaving are seared into her memory, that he put on his sunglasses, and gestured toward her mouth saying “You better put some ice on that,” and walked out.
Rogers, a nurse, describes Juanita’s lips as swollen to double their size, and her mouth area discolored by bruising which she attributed to biting. She treated Juanita’s lips with ice at the hotel and afterward on their drive home. Rogers recalls that Juanita, in a state of shock, kept repeating, “I can’t believe what just happened.”
The April 25, 1978 Arkansas Gazette mentions a nursing home conference held that day at the Camelot Inn. That edition also noted Clinton’s only announced event of the day that evening in nearby Conway. Juanita says she feared that she would not be believed. Juanita blamed herself for allowing a man into her hotel room. But “this was the attorney general¾and it just never entered my mind.”
Juanita says she wanted to deny and forget what had happened. On the drive home she invented a cover story for her wounds and told David Broaddrick that she had been hit in the mouth by a revolving door. He recounts responding, “That didn’t happen.”
Clinton and the Broaddricks Afterwards
David Broaddrick says that a few days later Juanita told him that Bill Clinton had raped her. Juanita says Clinton later phoned her nursing home several times but she always refused the call.
In the following years the Broaddricks avoided conferences if Clinton was scheduled to attend. The Broaddricks say that when they once happened to see Clinton, that David grabbed the governor by the hand and said, “Stay away from my wife and stay away from Brownwood Manor [her nursing home].” Juanita recalls that Clinton had to wring himself free from her husband’s grip.
In 1984 Juanita won an award for running the best nursing home in Arkansas and Clinton closed his official letter of congratulations with a handwritten, “I admire you very much.”
In 1991 Juanita was called out of a state nursing standards meeting to find the governor at a stairway. She recalls that Clinton took her hands and said that he wanted to apologize. She remembers that she said nothing except, “You just go to hell,” and then she walked away. Juanita and Norma Rogers wondered about Clinton’s motive and timing for this apology until he soon began campaigning for the presidency.
Public Denials
Philip Yoakum, a business associate, is another contemporaneous witness to Juanita’s account. In 1992, Yoakum spread the story widely in an attempt to keep Clinton out of the White House. Juanita refused to help Yoakum after she had spent years wishing she could forget the rape, hoping that the story would go away. But a media report that Clinton had bought her husband’s silence angered her.
Juanita Broaddrick admits to providing Paula Jones’ lawyers with a false affidavit denying that Mr. Clinton made “unwelcome sexual advances” against her in order to keep herself out of the scandal.
FBI Investigation Opens Wounds
Juanita’s son Kevin, a lawyer, warned her against lying to a federal grand jury, if it would come to that, and convinced her to tell the truth to federal prosecutor Kenneth Starr during the Clinton impeachment investigation, which is how her own account of the incident eventually became public and led to Juanita’s tearful accounts of being raped by Bill Clinton.
Juanita Broaddrick today lives in the tiny northwest Arkansas town of Van Buren with her second husband, David Broaddrick. She has a close family and is financially secure. Broaddrick has sought neither paid interviews, book deals, nor profit from this accusation.
Tax-funded Payment for Sex
Consider this further evidence of Bill Clinton’s demeaning attitude toward women and disregard for the public trust. The former president has paid for sex with taxpayer money by arranging for government jobs to be given to women as reward for providing Bill Clinton with sex and to keep them quiet. For example, Gennifer Flowers was hired by the state government in Arkansas in payment for her sexual affair with Bill Clinton, which to add insult to taxpayer injury, also displaced a female black applicant who was actually qualified for the position. And U.N. ambassador Bill Richardson offered intern Monica Lewinsky a position at the United Nations, not based upon her qualifications but as tax-payer funded hush money. Lewinsky did not want the job at the U.N., and was then offered a job at the Pentagon! Sexual immorality and harassment by governing officials is also a security risk, as they work to coverup their shameful bewhavior.
As his chief campaign worker, Bill Clinton’s wife Hillary has systematically worked to destroy the reputations of the women victimized by her husband. Thus, Democratic leaders supposedly advancing feminism have actually set back the cause of respect for women. Liberals caused a national uproar over allegations that Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas told dirty jokes to subordinate Anita Hill, yet in a display of hypocrisy, as a community they refused to give Juanita Broaddrick the dignity of an honest assessment of her far more serious allegation.
Appreciated Double Standard
The media imposes a double standard on conservative Christians as compared to liberal leaders. We conservative Christians want to be held to a higher standard. Clinton’s rape of Juanita provides irrefragable evidence of this double standard. Thus some Christians, including those of us at ShadowGov.com (a website for discussing government problems and solutions) will not give up exposing his crime. This double standard is a knife which can possibly pierce the conscience of a liberal whose heart is not yet fully hardened against all that is good and right. The liberal whose undying admiration does not diminish, regardless of extraordinary testimony that Bill Clinton is a rapist, has a last chance at redemption if he can be confronted to acknowledge that he is a sinner, and approves of those who are most cruel to others.
What We Want
We want Bill Clinton to apologize to Juanita Broaddrick. As a sexual predator, Bill Clinton needs to clearly acknowledge the hurt he has inflicted upon Juanita, and to ask for her forgiveness. If he does not, he will die a broken man. For success and fame cannot forever cover up the guilt of rape. If you care about Bill Clinton, you will not honor him unless he repents. The Bible’s King David committed the most wicked crime of seducing another man’s wife, and then, to cover up his sin, he murdered the husband. That cruelty was sufficient to earn him a vile place in history, except that he repented. He was truly sorry. That does not mean he should avoid the consequences, but it means that God can begin working in him again. While there’s life, there’s hope. Bill Clinton still has the opportunity to repent. Urge him to apologize, for the sake of all.
By Bob Enyart
Pastor, Denver Bible Church.org
Talk Show Host,, KGOV.com
Clinton “in fact”
raped Juanita
¯¯
Bill Clinton’s rape of campaign supporter Juanita Broaddrick, “was an event that in fact took place” according to a Wall Street Journal piece, Feb. 19, 1999. “To hear the details of her story and the statements of the corroborating witnesses, was to understand that this was an event that in fact took place.”
Read here the particulars of this crime that were reported fleetingly by the Wall Street Journal, Dateline NBC 2-25-99, and the Washington Post 2-20-99. A Denver radio program, Bob Enyart Live, conducted a corroborating interview with Norma Kelsay, the nurse who found Juanita shortly after the rape, bruised, sobbing, and with lips swollen twice their size. You can find that interview at ShadowGov.com, along with links to transcripts of the above mentioned reports.
Juanita Broaddrick, a 35-year-old campaign supporter, met Bill Clinton in April 1978 when he made a campaign stop at the nursing home she had owned for five years. Broaddrick says that Bill Clinton invited her
to his Little Rock campaign headquarters. Juanita, and her employee, Norma Rogers (now Norma Kelsay), were scheduled to attend an American College of Nursing Home Administrators seminar in the state capital at the Camelot Inn the next week on April 25, 1978. Juanita says that she therefore accepted Clinton’s invitation to visit the campaign headquarters. Broaddrick says that she called the campaign headquarters when she arrived and was surprised that the aide who answered the phone had expected her call and told her to call Bill Clinton at his apartment.
The Meeting
Broaddrick says she called Clinton and they arranged to meet at the coffee shop in her hotel. Broaddrick says Clinton then changed their plans moving the meeting to her room, where they could have beverages delivered, since he said the coffee shop was too noisy for their meeting. Broaddrick says Clinton made small talk for less than five minutes, pointing to a jail which he said he would refurbish when elected, which jail media accounts report being later demolished.
The Rape
Broaddrick says Clinton then startled her by embracing her and saying, “We’re both married people.” Juanita says she responded that she had no such interest in him and that she was in love with David Broaddrick, whom she later married in 1981. Broaddrick says Clinton persisted and forced her onto the bed and used his strength to hold her down.
According to Broaddrick’s account Clinton tore apart her pantyhose at the crotch, that he inflicted pain when he penetrated her, and that he bit her lips which also inflicted pain. Norma Rogers says she found Juanita on the same bed shortly afterward, in a state of shock, her pantyhose torn in the crotch.
Broaddrick says that after his ejaculation, Clinton told her not to worry about becoming pregnant for he had the mumps when he was a child and that he was sterile. Juanita first publicly told of Clinton’s claim of sterility in 1999 when Chelsea was about 20 years old. He was reportedly the first president who has kept his medical records secret.
The Immediate Aftermath
Juanita says she had “felt paralyzed,” and was not at all thinking about pregnancy, and that when Clinton mentioned sterility she started to cry. Juanita says that his behavior and words as he was leaving are seared into her memory, that he put on his sunglasses, and gestured toward her mouth saying “You better put some ice on that,” and walked out.
Rogers, a nurse, describes Juanita’s lips as swollen to double their size, and her mouth area discolored by bruising which she attributed to biting. She treated Juanita’s lips with ice at the hotel and afterward on their drive home. Rogers recalls that Juanita, in a state of shock, kept repeating, “I can’t believe what just happened.”
The April 25, 1978 Arkansas Gazette mentions a nursing home conference held that day at the Camelot Inn. That edition also noted Clinton’s only announced event of the day that evening in nearby Conway. Juanita says she feared that she would not be believed. Juanita blamed herself for allowing a man into her hotel room. But “this was the attorney general¾and it just never entered my mind.”
Juanita says she wanted to deny and forget what had happened. On the drive home she invented a cover story for her wounds and told David Broaddrick that she had been hit in the mouth by a revolving door. He recounts responding, “That didn’t happen.”
Clinton and the Broaddricks Afterwards
David Broaddrick says that a few days later Juanita told him that Bill Clinton had raped her. Juanita says Clinton later phoned her nursing home several times but she always refused the call.
In the following years the Broaddricks avoided conferences if Clinton was scheduled to attend. The Broaddricks say that when they once happened to see Clinton, that David grabbed the governor by the hand and said, “Stay away from my wife and stay away from Brownwood Manor [her nursing home].” Juanita recalls that Clinton had to wring himself free from her husband’s grip.
In 1984 Juanita won an award for running the best nursing home in Arkansas and Clinton closed his official letter of congratulations with a handwritten, “I admire you very much.”
In 1991 Juanita was called out of a state nursing standards meeting to find the governor at a stairway. She recalls that Clinton took her hands and said that he wanted to apologize. She remembers that she said nothing except, “You just go to hell,” and then she walked away. Juanita and Norma Rogers wondered about Clinton’s motive and timing for this apology until he soon began campaigning for the presidency.
Public Denials
Philip Yoakum, a business associate, is another contemporaneous witness to Juanita’s account. In 1992, Yoakum spread the story widely in an attempt to keep Clinton out of the White House. Juanita refused to help Yoakum after she had spent years wishing she could forget the rape, hoping that the story would go away. But a media report that Clinton had bought her husband’s silence angered her.
Juanita Broaddrick admits to providing Paula Jones’ lawyers with a false affidavit denying that Mr. Clinton made “unwelcome sexual advances” against her in order to keep herself out of the scandal.
FBI Investigation Opens Wounds
Juanita’s son Kevin, a lawyer, warned her against lying to a federal grand jury, if it would come to that, and convinced her to tell the truth to federal prosecutor Kenneth Starr during the Clinton impeachment investigation, which is how her own account of the incident eventually became public and led to Juanita’s tearful accounts of being raped by Bill Clinton.
Juanita Broaddrick today lives in the tiny northwest Arkansas town of Van Buren with her second husband, David Broaddrick. She has a close family and is financially secure. Broaddrick has sought neither paid interviews, book deals, nor profit from this accusation.
Tax-funded Payment for Sex
Consider this further evidence of Bill Clinton’s demeaning attitude toward women and disregard for the public trust. The former president has paid for sex with taxpayer money by arranging for government jobs to be given to women as reward for providing Bill Clinton with sex and to keep them quiet. For example, Gennifer Flowers was hired by the state government in Arkansas in payment for her sexual affair with Bill Clinton, which to add insult to taxpayer injury, also displaced a female black applicant who was actually qualified for the position. And U.N. ambassador Bill Richardson offered intern Monica Lewinsky a position at the United Nations, not based upon her qualifications but as tax-payer funded hush money. Lewinsky did not want the job at the U.N., and was then offered a job at the Pentagon! Sexual immorality and harassment by governing officials is also a security risk, as they work to coverup their shameful bewhavior.
As his chief campaign worker, Bill Clinton’s wife Hillary has systematically worked to destroy the reputations of the women victimized by her husband. Thus, Democratic leaders supposedly advancing feminism have actually set back the cause of respect for women. Liberals caused a national uproar over allegations that Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas told dirty jokes to subordinate Anita Hill, yet in a display of hypocrisy, as a community they refused to give Juanita Broaddrick the dignity of an honest assessment of her far more serious allegation.
Appreciated Double Standard
The media imposes a double standard on conservative Christians as compared to liberal leaders. We conservative Christians want to be held to a higher standard. Clinton’s rape of Juanita provides irrefragable evidence of this double standard. Thus some Christians, including those of us at ShadowGov.com (a website for discussing government problems and solutions) will not give up exposing his crime. This double standard is a knife which can possibly pierce the conscience of a liberal whose heart is not yet fully hardened against all that is good and right. The liberal whose undying admiration does not diminish, regardless of extraordinary testimony that Bill Clinton is a rapist, has a last chance at redemption if he can be confronted to acknowledge that he is a sinner, and approves of those who are most cruel to others.
What We Want
We want Bill Clinton to apologize to Juanita Broaddrick. As a sexual predator, Bill Clinton needs to clearly acknowledge the hurt he has inflicted upon Juanita, and to ask for her forgiveness. If he does not, he will die a broken man. For success and fame cannot forever cover up the guilt of rape. If you care about Bill Clinton, you will not honor him unless he repents. The Bible’s King David committed the most wicked crime of seducing another man’s wife, and then, to cover up his sin, he murdered the husband. That cruelty was sufficient to earn him a vile place in history, except that he repented. He was truly sorry. That does not mean he should avoid the consequences, but it means that God can begin working in him again. While there’s life, there’s hope. Bill Clinton still has the opportunity to repent. Urge him to apologize, for the sake of all.
By Bob Enyart
Pastor, Denver Bible Church.org
Talk Show Host,, KGOV.com
- canoodle
- 11-08-2011, 10:31 AM
I am shocked, shocked, I tell you!! A man wined and dined a pretty woman and ran his hand up her dress?? At least, as far as we know, Slick didn't do that. He just whipped out his cock for them to take a little lick!
I, too, am guilty of sexual harassment! I had a lady off P411 come visit me, (I always want them in a dress, if possible) I ran my hand up her dress and then things got very sexual! This was before I gave her the donation, so therefore, I harassed her sexually! Don't tell Gloria Alreid!! Please!!
I, too, am guilty of sexual harassment! I had a lady off P411 come visit me, (I always want them in a dress, if possible) I ran my hand up her dress and then things got very sexual! This was before I gave her the donation, so therefore, I harassed her sexually! Don't tell Gloria Alreid!! Please!!
- TexTushHog
- 11-08-2011, 08:05 PM
More evidence that the Democrats don't give a shit about the Cain scandal, but the Republicans are scared shitless.
http://news.yahoo.com/defiant-cain-s...235353456.html
Romney joined other GOP opponents in urging Cain to answer the allegations. Prominent Republicans pressed for a full accounting. And there were growing indications of unease in conservative circles.
"If there is a pattern then it's a part of his character and then, yes, it is going to matter," Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Family Research Center, said in an interview. . . .
Other Republicans sounded alarms about Cain's troubles and the impact on the GOP race as the party gears up to try to defeat President Barack Obama next fall.
"Get all the facts in front of people, otherwise he's going to have this continuing distraction," Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a former Republican National Committee chairman with deep ties to the GOP establishment, told MSNBC.
http://news.yahoo.com/defiant-cain-s...235353456.html
Not a single quote from a Democrat.
As for Cain's ineptitude, here's the money line:
At one point he [Cain] said he would be willing to take a lie detector test, but then appeared to hedge his answer seconds later.
http://news.yahoo.com/defiant-cain-s...235353456.html
Romney joined other GOP opponents in urging Cain to answer the allegations. Prominent Republicans pressed for a full accounting. And there were growing indications of unease in conservative circles.
"If there is a pattern then it's a part of his character and then, yes, it is going to matter," Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Family Research Center, said in an interview. . . .
Other Republicans sounded alarms about Cain's troubles and the impact on the GOP race as the party gears up to try to defeat President Barack Obama next fall.
"Get all the facts in front of people, otherwise he's going to have this continuing distraction," Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a former Republican National Committee chairman with deep ties to the GOP establishment, told MSNBC.
http://news.yahoo.com/defiant-cain-s...235353456.html
Not a single quote from a Democrat.
As for Cain's ineptitude, here's the money line:
At one point he [Cain] said he would be willing to take a lie detector test, but then appeared to hedge his answer seconds later.
- CuteOldGuy
- 11-08-2011, 08:54 PM
Lie detectors are not accurate enough for court, and in my experience have only been used to entrap. I thought he looked stupid by appearing to agree to one. I don't know why they are picking on Cain, he never was going to get the nomination. It's like Nixon spying on McGovern. WTF?
- budman33
- 11-08-2011, 08:57 PM
Lie detectors are not accurate enough for court, and in my experience have only been used to entrap. I thought he looked stupid by appearing to agree to one. I don't know why they are picking on Cain, he never was going to get the nomination. It's like Nixon spying on McGovern. WTF? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyDepends on the court and the judge.
- TexTushHog
- 11-08-2011, 09:03 PM
Lie detectors are not accurate enough for court, and in my experience have only been used to entrap. I thought he looked stupid by appearing to agree to one. I don't know why they are picking on Cain, he never was going to get the nomination. It's like Nixon spying on McGovern. WTF? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyThe Republican establishment is picking on him because it's now less than two months before Iowa and he's in a position to win Iowa. That makes him THE alternative to Romney unless somebody else can win New Hampshire. And nobody else can, at least from present appearances. Perry keeps tripping over his own feet. Newt would rather hear the sound of his own voice and sell books. Even the nutso conservatives have figured out that Michelle is as crazy as a June bug. And Santorum has all the appeal of a not coffee enema. Huntsman isn't really an alternative as far as the right wing of the party goes, and they're all that count in Iowa.
- CuteOldGuy
- 11-08-2011, 09:12 PM
TTH, as much as I hate to say it, I think you probably have it right after all. Since I don't plan to vote for any of them, I don't really care anymore. Cain had his chance to put this down. He must have known it was coming, and he wasn't prepared. I just hope the Libertarians don't pick a jackass like they did last time. Bob Barr? Are you serious?
- dilbert firestorm
- 11-08-2011, 09:15 PM
TTH, as much as I hate to say it, I think you probably have it right after all. Since I don't plan to vote for any of them, I don't really care anymore. Cain had his chance to put this down. He must have known it was coming, and he wasn't prepared. I just hope the Libertarians don't pick a jackass like they did last time. Bob Barr? Are you serious? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyBob Barr has returned to the republican fold and is rumored to be running for another office, the Senate I think.
- TexTushHog
- 11-08-2011, 10:00 PM
Actually, Bob isn't all that bad, as Libertarians go. He was against the so-called Patriot Act. Of course, his recent libertarian principles are at war with his previous Republican principles, but you never curse wisdom because it comes late. But the Republicans didn't really like him because he had a pussy problem. Some understand, but the true believers really get bent out of shape about it. So he basically told them to fuck off and started taking positions that I think were more in line with what he truly believed, rather than what he needed to say to get elected.
Meanwhile, since I'm sitting in France and can't sleep, I found Herman Cain's actually statement on the lie detector test:
[Cain] said he would “absolutely” take a lie detector test but added, “I’m not going to do that unless I have a good reason.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...fi2M_blog.html
Y'all unscramble that while I'm out doing barrel tastings today and get back to me about what it means when you get it figured out.
Meanwhile, since I'm sitting in France and can't sleep, I found Herman Cain's actually statement on the lie detector test:
[Cain] said he would “absolutely” take a lie detector test but added, “I’m not going to do that unless I have a good reason.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...fi2M_blog.html
Y'all unscramble that while I'm out doing barrel tastings today and get back to me about what it means when you get it figured out.