Off the Clock

Naomi, on your first point, I have no doubt if you've done your research as you say that it's very true. Hell, there are plenty of women who would tread the same (wanting attention) path without money...so yes, I'm sure there are those that would do it just for the temporary spotlight too! But that's the point I was getting at money + attention = combination of factors.
With regards your second point, when I was talking about being "polite' I wasn't referring to the sorts of things that would fall under screening for LE/bad clients...I meant more along the lines of rapport. Sorry that wasn't clearer...
Originally Posted by Camille

So to recap: Alex asked what we thought about OTC. A number of us commented that it does happen and that we know that from personal experience. Then Alex comes back and says thats wrong. Did I get that right? Originally Posted by discreetgent

Right...she asked for opinions about "OTC time" not a critique of her blog lol.

I have felt her frustration many times with this same thing, and it's not fun to deal with. I like many others, don't need this business to survive so I don't put up with just anything.

So to recap: Alex asked what we thought about OTC. A number of us commented that it does happen and that we know that from personal experience. Then Alex comes back and says thats wrong. Did I get that right? Originally Posted by discreetgent

No you did not get that right. I only speak for myself. I never said that it doesn't happen. I said that for me this is a business and I feel that what I am being compensated for is companionship not the specific acts that happen behind closed doors. Therefor my OTC time is reserved for my personal life, not for clients who want to spend time with me. While some may think my body is my commodity I will tell them No, I charge for the time that I share with someone.

Ooh I so heart you SR. Originally Posted by Naomi4u

I do too!!!!!

xoxo

I recently have been asked by three seperate clients for time off the clock. I simply don't understand why anyone who participates in the hobby would think that's ok. I have heard from other providers that this happens often.

When does a hobbyist think it's ok to ask a provider out on an uncompensated date?

And how do other providers deal with this?




http://alexthereluctantescort.com/20...time-is-money/ Originally Posted by Alex Lieberman

I try to arrange it so there is still some wee evidence of the donation even if its very minimal. When I completely enjoy the company I tend to be a wee more generous with the time. Will it do it just for free .... NO. Have I made some friends that are hobbyest? Yes I have and those are as friends not dates. We all know where the line is, and for that mutual respect a foundation of friendship is built. If we have a strong friendship there is NO MORE CLIENT/PROVIDER relationship, no FWB ... just friends.

I feel it is VERY wrong for a man to expect off the clock time, different if I offer. A man's motivation is completely different than the woman's. Maybe she really enjoys but also in the back of the mind there might be some way to seal a return visit if she gives in. The man seems to just want to treat us like ladies.

just my .02

The man seems to just want to treat us like ladies. Originally Posted by TheHorseTrainer

I try to treat my partners with respect and grace, even if the do not act like they deserve it. Being a gentleman and all that.

The man seems to just want to treat us like ladies. Originally Posted by TheHorseTrainer

Like ladies? I am a lady. Confused here.

I try to treat my partners with respect and grace, even if the do not act like they deserve it. Being a gentleman and all that. Originally Posted by SR Only

SR, You can be a little rough with me. I like that. LOL!

Let's be real about this "business." Instead of being a Wal-Mart greeter or a convenience store stocker, ladies in this "business" are able to make $300 to $3000 an hour just on their bbbj or f*^king skillz. Where else could someone get that kind of income?

Most say they "love what they do." I'm sure they love it as long as they hear ka-ching. If you took the cash out of the equation, I'd be willing to bet a lot of them wouldn't be doing bbbjs or f*^king.

And for those ladies that say they are paid for their time alone, just take bcd out of the equation and see what your income does.

Like ladies? I am a lady. Confused here.

SR, You can be a little rough with me. I like that. LOL! Originally Posted by Naomi4u

I think she meant "as" a lady not "like" a lady....where's China and the rest of your grammar patrol??

Oh, and "a little rough" huh?? Interesting......

Yes watch out for China and rest of the grammar patrol. I've gotten a few tickets myself

Let's be real about this "business." Instead of being a Wal-Mart greeter or a convenience store stocker, ladies in this "business" are able to make $300 to $3000 an hour just on their bbbj or f*^king skillz. Where else could someone get that kind of income?

Most say they "love what they do." I'm sure they love it as long as they hear ka-ching. If you took the cash out of the equation, I'd be willing to bet a lot of them wouldn't be doing bbbjs or f*^king.: Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Damn right. So why were you getting all riled up over Alex's blog?

I said that a lot of the ladies that say "I don't do this for the money" are full of shit.
An unattractive lady can walk into a bar and get swarmed with
offers so for the ladies that don't do this for the money.. there's that option.
My other theory- Some women really do have low self-esteems and need to hear a man tell
them how hot they are (even if he's lying).

Damn right. So why were you getting all riled up over Alex's blog? Originally Posted by Naomi4u

I don't read blogs...waste of time. I only knew what cc quoted out of one. Made her seem like a cold-hearted bitch, but that was my take on it.

Let's be real about this "business." Instead of being a Wal-Mart greeter or a convenience store stocker, ladies in this "business" are able to make $300 to $3000 an hour just on their bbbj or f*^king skillz. Where else could someone get that kind of income?

Most say they "love what they do." I'm sure they love it as long as they hear ka-ching. If you took the cash out of the equation, I'd be willing to bet a lot of them wouldn't be doing bbbjs or f*^king.

And for those ladies that say they are paid for their time alone, just take bcd out of the equation and see what your income does. Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Yes this is a business...But isn't the reason for ANYONE working in general to make money???...So you have 2 options, do a job you don't like for money, or choose to do a job you do like for money...

Part of what makes this job so great is the amount of money one can earn, I'll happily admit that, but that doesn't mean that's the only reason I enjoy what I do..

I don't read blogs...waste of time. I only knew what cc quoted out of one. Made her seem like a cold-hearted bitch, but that was my take on it. Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Damn right. So why were you getting all riled up over Alex's blog?

I said that a lot of the ladies that say "I don't do this for the money" are full of shit.
An unattractive lady can walk into a bar and get swarmed with
offers so for the ladies that don't do this for the money.. there's that option.
My other theory- Some women really do have low self-esteems and need to hear a man tell
them how hot they are (even if he's lying). Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Thank you Naomi. Exactly! And if not wanting to spend my personal time with a client makes me a cold hearted bitch so be it.

it's ok. If i really gave him a bbbj, he'd be asking me to marry him.
Originally Posted by Naomi4u