So do you know Andrea Swallows

sorry just came in from my bridge game. No idea. It's like you blink you miss it, I know its something about Adrea swallowing her pimp. After that there were so many football plays called i got lost. good luck amigos. I will review subsequent post manana. Thank you

Ya it got heated. When people feel strongly about something that can happen.

If you can't handle reading a a whore's opinion then stay out of coed. People are gonna disagree on here. We are all adults (or should be). I have an opinion. Lots of people here do. Some of you guys have some strange hangups. Like it doesn't bother you to take advantage of a girl in a bad situation but you put your foot down when it comes to a provider speaking her mind.

Either way, I appreciate what you said Jillian. I know this thread is long but it's worth a good read. Big difference between stating your point of view vs. taking easy digs over some old shit. Grudge much? Damn. Some of you guys act like I laughed at your dick in high school.

Anyway ya, it was over 40 posts ago.

People at people could have covered provider at provider too. Originally Posted by Jarvis

Lol yes but there are a few that needed to be called out for trying to make themselves look better by putting others down. The kinda girl that says "I don't have any girlfriends. Girls suck" when really it is they who suck.

Ya it got heated. When people feel strongly about something that can happen.

If you can't handle reading a a whore's opinion then stay out of coed. People are gonna disagree on here. We are all adults (or should be). I have an opinion. Lots of people here do. Some of you guys have some strange hangups. Like it doesn't bother you to take advantage of a girl in a bad situation but you put your foot down when it comes to a provider speaking her mind.

Either way, I appreciate what you said Jillian. I know this thread is long but it's worth a good read. Big difference between stating your point of view vs. taking easy digs over some old shit. Grudge much? Damn. Some of you guys act like I laughed at your dick in high school.

Anyway ya, it was over 40 posts ago. Originally Posted by thathottnurse

LOL! Genitalia insults! Yeah, well "Your mom..."! <3

I have seen several guys the past two weeks who have seen AS. And they have noting but nice things to say about her. Its sad she took a wrong turn. People please lets keep this thread on topic. Its getting old fast.

Honestly, this is a great thread. It reminds me of why I read reviews and pay strict attention to everything in them. The hobby doesn't have to be Russian Roulette, and this website gives a huge advantage over the odds. I imagine that deep down everyone just wants to have fun for many, many years, but the unnecessary risks some people take, I can only attribute to a kind of addiction. Not just sex addiction but like a risk addiction. It's scary because people like that tend to take others down with them, and nobody wants that!

I agree, Alastair, and shared experiences sometimes will change behaviors.

Ten years ago I would have been one of the many who ignored the signs and taken a dip in this pool. Absent irrefutable evidence, which rarely presents itself, I would have chosen to believe everything was on the up and up.

Then one night I had an encounter that shook me. The girl was old enough to know better (thank God for that at least), but she found herself in a situation beyond her control. I didn't have sex with her, but I did pay her fee because I didn't want to be responsible for what would have happened if she had not collected. Since then I've been much more careful about who I see, although I have dabbled in grey areas (where do studios fit into this?) on rare occasions.

Since I've been guilty of seeing pimped providers in the past, I have a hard time taking a moralistic approach to the debate, although I appreciate the arguments of those that do. I therefore issue my cautions based on personal security, since I feel I'm on safer ground making that case.

My 2 cents, fwiw.

PS: I'm glad we're having the discussion here. I don't recall in my aspd heyday that folks felt they could openly talk about such things.

I have seen several guys the past two weeks who have seen AS. And they have noting but nice things to say about her. Its sad she took a wrong turn. People please lets keep this thread on topic. Its getting old fast. Originally Posted by Tara Evans

^^^^^^^^ One of the few statements that is true and relevant to this thread. I have seen AS a few times and she was nothing but nice to me. But when she put someone's life in danger (while participating in an illegal activity - irony noted), that's an inexcusable behavior and this thread is needed, in addition to the alert.

There has been a lot of providers who were speculated to be dealing with similar situations like AS, but a lot of them are still around and doing well. So for some of you to say, you knew this is going to end this way, well good for you. I sure didn't and i have been hobbying for over 10 yrs just in the Dallas area. Like Tara said, it took a really wrong turn and really fast.

Most don't mind anyone (Hobbiest or Provider) speaking their mind. There is a subtle difference between speaking one's mind and lecturing like my mother. As far as I read, none of the guys who got affected by this situation cried that they were victimized. Even if they did, there is no need for lectures and yeah I saw it coming miles away sorta stuff. Not going to help anyone or anything.

I know I have seen pimped girls before. Going in I didn't know, but it didn't take long to get that sense. I never went after one like this where it's so obvious. I have always just chalked it up to part of the business. But after seeing the video in the pimp thread where that guy slaps the shit out of that girl, and she just stands there and takes it. It is really bothering me.

I know it will always be out there. But I'm going to do everything I can to make sure I don't give some fucking creep like that a dollar. It's opened my eyes wider, and I'm going to pay even more attention and try even harder to verify a lady is independent in the future.

^^^an honest man^^^

Outside of giving it up entirely, try is the best we can do.

I know I have seen pimped girls before. Going in I didn't know, but it didn't take long to get that sense. I never went after one like this where it's so obvious. I have always just chalked it up to part of the business. But after seeing the video in the pimp thread where that guy slaps the shit out of that girl, and she just stands there and takes it. It is really bothering me.

I know it will always be out there. But I'm going to do everything I can to make sure I don't give some fucking creep like that a dollar. It's opened my eyes wider, and I'm going to pay even more attention and try even harder to verify a lady is independent in the future. Originally Posted by threepeckeredbillygoat

Ditto on the video bothering me. And then the one girl answers the phone like everything is fine. And I'm talking gorilla pimps - I can understand when someone has help from the running the business aspect.

I have some delusion most girls I meet enjoy this and are free to make their own choices. To think they're not and I'm supporting a girl being used/abused is sickening. It's been said before but it's so true - I wish I knew who was truly independent versus being kept.

I do think there is more reporting of the signs then there was 5+ years ago. That's an improvement. Information exchange is the best we can do. Rational presentation of the facts without letting our passions get in the way is the best way to improve the situation.

Where is that mod that gave me an infraction for calling someone a heifer.... Please read this so if there is some double standard with this person, please tell us.

We the people deserve to know why, a human being as this can keep talking with no ramifications. If there is a double standard just let me know. I then can take the gloves off.

Note - I didnt directly respond to this attention seeking person. No where did I mention a name whether directly or indirectly... no where did I say the word Heifer...or dick... Originally Posted by macbeth1000

Those in the *back channels* already know the answer to that. It would be helpful if the mod in question posted a review of her. The "fee" would tell a story

I am going to throw out a controversial statement right now, if you are a provider and you have an SO that knows what you are doing and helps you out in anyway ie drives you to clients etc, then it's more likely than not that you would be classified as pimped.
What is a pimp?" a pimp (male) or madam (female) helps in the arrangement of a sex act with a customer"

Some of the women here will never admit that they are pimped and would sing to the high heavens that they won't allow a man to pimp them, well some were pimped by women and others are in denial.
Face it, a good pimp or madam is in the background and you never hear or see them.
Chances are high that most of the women on this site are in some sort of arrangement or another and will never admit that they have a pimp.

It is when the pimp/boyfriend/daddy/controlling female etc starts interfering with business, is when people start to ask questions.

I have seen several guys the past two weeks who have seen AS. And they have noting but nice things to say about her. Its sad she took a wrong turn. People please lets keep this thread on topic. Its getting old fast. Originally Posted by Tara Evans

Actually it got old early as some provider wanted to be on her soapbox. Again.

That was exactly my point. Almost everyone who saw her up until that final day never had a problem. There are quite a few pimped girls here and guys never know it.

The danger didn't start until the pimp started crashing the room during sessions. And instead of blaming the alert guys they should have been thanked for coming here and alerting others.

Or skinny chicks being jealous of fat chicks. But Grrrrr who knows what's going on thses days. This is a soap opera up in here. Ijs Originally Posted by Tara Evans

You're right, or vice-versa. But this thread is hard to follow, many posts from people I ignore....