sugar baby/sugar daddy

Mutual con game
Nice description.

I have never done the SD/SB thing. Read up on it early when they put that section of the site.

The data available has grown a lot...... There is a wealth of information for a prospective SD to learn from.

But there are different levels of the relationship. Not just one straight forward package. True

Ideally, it is a relationship that, when completed, both parties separate in a better place in life than when it began.

I'm rather proud that in the case of EVERY girl I've been involved with in a SB/Mistress type relationship that lasted over a year (6 now), when the relationship ended, they had completed some phase of their education (3 completed college, #4 is close), resolved whatever difficulty they were dealing with (one was in a child custody battle with the State), and were moving on to a better life.

I usually lose the long term ones to "love". Meaning they meet and fall in love with a guy and build a relationship where their involvement with me can't be kept in place without risking what they found so they end it. One tried to balance him and me and failed miserably almost costing her the guy. He just couldn't spoil her in ways she wanted.

Even though i've been *accused* of being a SD, I can't do it at this point in my life because it does involve a commitment on the SD part also. And I am not talking about a fiscal angle.

Financially it requires far less than most imagine. Many of the ladies involved are in it for mentoring, tutoring, personal growth through experiences, connections and other things not financially possible. The girl I think I wanted a shot at the most was looking for a SD with connections to private art exhibits and a culture that eludes me.

But if either party goes into it with a "con game" mentality, to me, it truly isn't a SD/SB relationship. But I guess i'm just an idealist. Originally Posted by Precious_b

There are those on both sides of the fence that approach it as he claims. It's not a view that a majority seem to share that I have met.

I approached it at one time from the cost point angle measuring expenditures vs "pops" and got had the cost down to less that $30 in relation to every time we had sex that I "popped".

When I quit thinking about the money I spent it got even better. We were together all of Saturday and most of yesterday and had sex 7 times. Cost me dinner twice a hotel room, a movie and we hit a strip club for a couple of hours. Oh.... yeah... and she got a pedi right before meeting me that she charged to a card I let her carry.

...and went down.

I don't think this site allows for a Sugar Baby section. I'm sure it would make interesting reading for the women.

Because of the large number of pussy whipped guys that feel the need to post to impress some whore it would definitely have far less value in a CoEd environment. It's rather common that MOST SDs do not want whores for SBs and why would ANY guy want to attract women to this site for discussions of SB/SD behavior? Kinda destructive to the concept that most of these ladies do not want to be thought of as whores to immerse them in an environment with a bunch of whores.

SBs are not "interchangeable" in the manner hookers are and when guys have shared information about some lady they have met in common it is almost always negative. SBs have a shelf life and are typically only good for a single SD in regards to long term... Very few make the rounds..... That's why the section we have is all about the tactics and practices..... only a little weeding out gets done based on information about specific girls getting exchanged..

But I find from readings on the guys side that they don't like the women to know too much about it. Actually, a lot prefer to indoctrinate a SB into the arrangement.

YUP! The purest form of the lifestyle involves tapping into the ladies not even considering it and cultivating the relationship.

Otherwise, I guess we ain't going to have Kuhl regale us with tear stained tales of realizing the absence of love here Originally Posted by Precious_b

Love happens. Very few guys go into it thinking they will find it or even wanting it. But it happens.

Feelings develop between 2 people that spend a lot of time together when money is not on the table every time they meet. I have loved and been loved. For those that know the difference..... I have IN love and had 2 different girls be IN love with me.

For those emotionally unable to know how and when to separate....... hookers are the better option because the act of laying an envelope stuffed with money on a dresser BEFORE you get to fuck her or reaching into your wallet AFTER you fuck her helps MOST guys draw a line and remain rational. There are some REALLY fucked up guys here though that can't accept that without money there was no sex happening because EVERYTIME they see their hooker it's a business transaction.

Having your SB invite you over, open the door in a sexy outfit and cook you dinner and then fuck your brains out for a few hours before you fall asleep with her....... wake up to her sucking your dick and then hopping up to go cook you breakfast...... getting dressed and spending the day with you doing what YOU want to do before catching a movie and then back to her place for another night of wild sex where there is NO QUESTION that she wants you because she does everything for you the way you want it..... and her responses are as real as it gets...... and the next day as she blows you one more time before you leave to "return home from the business trip you had to take"..... without ever handing her a dollar......


well.... for many guys.... that's a pretty nice sign of the love the girl claims to have.....

When the semester ends and her financial aid is fucked up and a week late and her roommate is in the same situation worrying but she is not..... because she just reaches into her wallet and uses that card her SD gave her for exactly those kinds of moment and she KNOWS he won't deny her because he truly cares about her..... it's hard for a lot of these ladies not to equate that "support" as being a sign of HIS love for her..... EVEN THOUGH SHE FEELS BAD ENOUGH THAT SHE WANTS TO PAY HIM BACK WHEN HER FUNDS COME IN!

There is a lot more to the relationships than cash..... and HOW the financial aspect is handled sets the stage for a lot of where a girl develops emotional attachments.....

Ever wonder why some super hot chicks hit the scene and disappear? Yes some decide it's not for them but others get taken off the market by these guys that have "money". Originally Posted by Still Looking

AMEN!



Read this whole thread....All 6 pages...Some good points
were brought up, But out of all of it, I think SL quickly summed
it up pretty damn well right there, IJS.

Good stuff whispers!! This thread has been really eye-opening.

1. Listen to Whispers he know that game quiet well.

2. I have loved my sb's but Im never in love with my Sb's.

3. For 99% of sb's its not a living. Its extra money so you can go to school or only work one job. Its romance and a social life without the hassle of a boyfriend if you have other goals that chew up time like school.

4. Typically its 4 hrs max a week that I spend with my sb and I wont pursue strippers or escorts because the money they are used to is not coming from me in the same volume.

5. I treat it like dating with no strings. I don't assume a pretty young woman (I don't do over 25 EVER) Im spending 1-2 days a week with is sitting around the other 5-6 pining for me. Frankly Im a temporary thing, SD/SB relationships have a built in break conversation from day one. Mine do anyways. Its going to end and 6 months is the norm. So asking her to be tied down is just unrealistic.

6. The money is to keep everyone in their lane. I have had girlfriends before and that always ends up with the young lady getting the wrong idea. That allowance is key to keeping it clear that no matter how much we like each other this isn't the typical relationship and normal rules simply do not apply.

7. I take the mentoring part of being a SD seriously, if the woman Im with isn't better off when we part company I didn't do my part. Sometime you cant do anything for them they are too young to heed advice but I don't typically involve myself with that sort unless the hot factor is just too much to pass up on.

8. I don't believe in free samples. I know they happen I don't do them. If the guy wont spring for a weeks allowance for a "tryout" then he and I are operating from different manuals. A SD isn't sweating 200-300 bucks to find out if you guys click in the sack. Hes not a sucker mind either mind you but if 200-300 for your bcd attention exceeds his comfort threshold but he says he can take care of you....well you do the math.


Was fun to read all this I have been on a self imposed break from this board nice to be back.

Grifter, I like you POV.

You seem to have the SD/SB aspect down to where it works for you.
If I was to go there, you are about spot on as to how i'd do it.
I like how you approach #7. To me, that is the biggest part of the arrangement.

Need a SD?

So I joined this website for a sugar daddy. ...... Any tips? Originally Posted by SweetSarahTx

This is a discussion that we never have locally. I know a few gents that would be amenable to some sort of arrangement - what say the ladies?

If I had a SB right now I could have her rub my shoulders while I type. And do other things.

Www.seekingarrangements.com seems to be a popular place on ECCIE.

SF Originally Posted by SpursFan

top site in the country

See. I told you he wasn't worthless.

I guess she found one.

I guess she found one. Originally Posted by Precious_b

Or maybe she just got discouraged? We should keep the light on for her.

I'm going to have to try seeking arraignments

Or maybe she just got discouraged? We should keep the light on for her. Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

I don't see why a person who does a proper search would be discouraged.