Do you just argue for the sake of arguing? I clearly remember you voicing support for gay rights and marriage equality.....
Besides, your arguments largely miss the point. You can say that the government can change the laws against underage sex and marriage, but you have to remember that those laws are there in the first place because the government mandated them. Even today, there are places where puberty is considered the age of maturity and deemed appropriate for intimate relationships.
Regardless, the courts have decided that its between two consensual adults, which means that under the age of maturity you are not deemed to make sensible decisions regarding matters such as sex, which is largely correct.
Another parable would be to compare interspecies marriage, like chicken *forbidden topic* IBHankering wants. But in that case, the sex and marriage won't be consensual.
TL;DR, you shouldn't place restrictions on who or what two consenting individuals do, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights or life of others.
Originally Posted by shanm
I have NEVER supported GAY marriage- I have always been conservative on that issue from day 1. There are issues I side with conservatives: Gay marriage, abortion and gun control for the most part. This is MY belief and again many conservatives share this belief:
God never created a ‘gay’ baby. Since homosexuality is a sin, it would be contradictory to God’s nature to cause someone to be born with that sexual orientation (cf.
Jas. 1:13). The Bible describes homosexuality as being “
contrary to nature” (
Rom. 1:26-27; ESV). Indeed, no one is born a homosexual.
That does not mean that people cannot be conditioned to feel homosexual urges. There are people who legitimately wrestle with such feelings, and I sympathize and feel compassion for those people. Yet,
people experience homosexual feelings because of sin (cf.
Rom. 1:24-27), either because of their own sin or the sin of others. Perhaps they were abused as children. Perhaps they had a dad who did not demonstrate fatherly affection. Perhaps they grew up in a one-parent home, or a homosexual home. Perhaps they were made to think they were homosexual because of peer pressure at school. Or maybe they made a conscious decision to experiment with homosexuality.
Jesus Taught That Marriage Is Between A Man And A Woman
One sometimes hears the objection, “Jesus never talked about homosexuality.” Actually, He did when He defined a God-approved marriage as being between a man and a woman. Consider His words,
[Jesus] answered, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” (Matt. 19:4-6, ESV)
God’s Law Trumps Man’s Law
. The practice of homosexuality is an abomination. It will always be “vile affection.”
Man can legalize any sin he wants it doesn't make it right. Yet just because some forms of murder (abortion), drug use, drinking, and homosexuality are legal does not make them right. Undoubtedly, “we must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).
It seems like nowadays everyone's approach is yeah I believe in the Bible and I believe in God, but we are living in 2015 we need to be open-minded and we don't need to follow the Christians values anymore- and that's why society is so fucked up now.
Again, if you believe in the Constitution- our founding fathers may have not all been bible thumping preachers, but they drafted the constitution bases on Christian values and the belief in God- and I assure you they (founding fathers) would have NEVER supported GAY marriage.
