p411 client, very aggressive attitude

I'm allergic to Tequila, every time I drink it I seem to break out in handcuffs.
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I'm allergic to Tequila, every time I drink it I seem to break out in handcuffs. Originally Posted by DarkeyKong
I would have negotiated for vodka. Tequila gives me a headache.
So here's the story.. Believe it or not.. No worries.. I'm an honest (and honestly too blunt) provider on here from the get go (2011) with plenty of great reviews .. Um hello why would I have 3 out of 233 NOS...... Because I am actually fun and considerate and awesome compared to low brow, I-write-2/4-no's-reviews Eccie clients.. Tf.. I've more than proved myself so here is my story:

That guy and I had a total misunderstanding going on.

Let me clear some things up- he wasnt a gentleman at all.. I did ask him to get me a bottle because I am without my car right now.. He agreed but it was never agreed that he would take it out of the donation

And yes I have a missing tooth. I was mugged while I went out one night 3 months ago and the guy punched me in the face, knocked my tooth out and stole my purse. It’s not right in the front but I suppose it is a tiny bit noticeable. He is the first person to ever mention it or say anything about it.

Also, I didn’t necessarily bad mouth anyone but he actually started naming guys and providers by name and my mistake, I went along with the conversation. It was never instigated by me in any way

My place also is never a mess . My kitchen was a bit cluttered because I made spaghetti and meatballs hours before and hadn’t put it up or cleaned my dishes up because I was busy cleaning the rest of the apartment and wouldnt think he was even going to see my kitchen. I also removed my cat from my room since she’s always in there and he seemed to have no issues

This guy couldnt stay hard and I even asked him twice if he was comfortable or if he wanted to leave. He declined. After 45 minutes it just wouldn’t happen. We stopped a few times to take a break and then try again so mnaybe that is what he was referring to when he said I was talking. But pretty much everything was over exaggerated.

On the way out I told him just leave me 90 since he felt like I still "owed" him 10 and like he did me a favor. Several times because it was just a horrible experience and I didn’t want him to feel like I owed him anything. But none of these things he ever disclosed to me and I wasnt aware of his feelings from the start of the session. After I let him out, he said something smart behind the closed door and I opened it and told him no wonder everyone thinks he’s a douchebag (he has several no reviews and a bad history with some ladies)

That is my side of the story. I am def not a liar and I have consistent good reviews with only 2 other nos out of 230+ in 5 years. The last one was over 3 yrs ago and was written by a provider (I know this) and the other when I first started in 2011.

I hope you OTHER fine gentlemen consider seeing me. I’m definitely not what he portrays and I would hate that he would deter anyone from seeing me.

Just my .02
I did ask him to get me a bottle ... He agreed but it was never agreed that he would take it out of the donation
What were your expectations on that cost?
Luke Skywalker's Avatar
What were your expectations on that cost? Originally Posted by Stanfeld
Most women would expect most gentlemen to pick up those costs without a question. I know that in my case it would'nt even cross my mind to make the girl pay for it, even if she suggested it.
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Most women would expect most gentlemen to pick up those costs without a question. I know that in my case it would'nt even cross my mind to make the girl pay for it, even if she suggested it. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker
no one has ever asked me to bring anything, except condoms and a coke.. I brought condoms and let the Provider keep the remaining 11 from the box.. and brought the coke for a nc/ns.. I had the good humor to text her 8 hours after, to say the coke was "getting warm".

but that's it.. maybe the knowledge that close to 3 inches of Tran dick is on the way, is enough to satisfy my Providers..
Most women would expect most gentlemen to pick up those costs without a question.
Really? So if she asked you to bring a bottle of Grey Goose ($60) you wouldn't mind? A $300 bottle of wine? At what price would you baulk?

We’re not talking about Cheap Chung's Coke.
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A. This dude is a douche from the beginning because Roxy is as nice, sweet, and sexy of a girl in the hobby.
B. I'm with Luke, would never think of expecting repayment. I've brought booze (alcohol, wine, and beer), food, flowers, cards, ecigs, regular cigs, etc and I thought it was being a decent person. I'm big on GFE so thought that was just being a gentleman. Heck, if the girl didn't have a ride I just thought all that better that I'm pretty sure there's no pimp.
C. The 2/4 No reviews is odd...and you're with ST69 and can't get hard? Heck, I'd easily spend that time kissing that beautiful ass if I was having an ED issue.

Can't make some people happy.

Edit: Sorry about your tooth, real man to punch a girl in the face.
Luke Skywalker's Avatar
Really? So if she asked you to bring a bottle of Grey Goose ($60) you wouldn't mind? A $300 bottle of wine? At what price would you baulk?

We’re not talking about Cheap Chung's Coke. Originally Posted by Stanfeld
Yes.. I wouldn't mind. If she asked for a Châteaux Margaux that would actually turn me on. A woman with taste. ( that might be a tad over the 300$ you quoted... A big tad).

Now... If she asked for grey goose and red bull I would object, because for mixed drinks you are just wasting using gray goose instead of titos. Great vodkas are supposed to be chilled and drank straight up.
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  • BLM69
  • 01-03-2016, 12:22 AM
Why ask a client for anything extra? I've turned around before when a provider ask for something including rubbers, I'm not a delivery service or willing to waste my time searching for specific items

I don't see a problem with the $20 deduction on the $30 expense not including his wasted time, sounds like the client got the short end of the stick in this session.
Really? So if she asked you to bring a bottle of Grey Goose ($60) you wouldn't mind? A $300 bottle of wine? At what price would you baulk?

We’re not talking about Cheap Chung's Coke. Originally Posted by Stanfeld

Grey Goose isn't $60 btw, just saying. LOL And yeah most guys I've seen aren't petty... From my experience anyway. Maybe it's just an ECCIE thing. P411 is a lot different.
Yes.. I wouldn't mind. If she asked for a Châteaux Margaux that would actually turn me on. A woman with taste. ( that might be a tad over the 300$ you quoted... A big tad).

Now... If she asked for grey goose and red bull I would object, because for mixed drinks you are just wasting using gray goose instead of titos. Great vodkas are supposed to be chilled and drank straight up. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

A man with CLASS. Love it
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  • L.A.
  • 01-03-2016, 06:03 AM
1st I'll say this guy sounds like somebody that can't be pleased. Birdie has 5 "NO" reviews. I haven't had 5 bad experiences in all of my time in the hobby. At least 2 of the "NOs" are of reputable, highly vouched for providers. ST69s review record speaks for itself.

2nd issue. I see the difference in asking for a soda compared to a bottle of tequila. A soda can be bought just about anywhere on the way to the appointment and will cost about 2 bucks. A bottle of Tequila can only be purchased in certain stores and cost about 30 bucks. In my opinion that's a huge difference and something that costs 30 should be deducted from the cost of the session not to mention it's not as convenient to just find a liquor store along the way.

I'll be honest and I have to agree with BLM on this one, when I make an appointment with somebody (especially somebody I've never seen before) I just want to make the appointment, drive there, give the donation, have fun, and leave. That's just how I feel about it.

Here is how my crazy mind would work if I get a text on the way asking for a bottle of tequila.
Am I going to be late?
Will it matter if I am late?
I can't use my credit card because I can't explain why I am in this part of town today.
If I did use my credit card then why didn't I bring what I purchased home?
I don't usually carry much cash with me as I pay for everything (except P4P) with credit\debit.
If I pay for it with cash what does that mean? Is it expected to come out of the session? It is supposed to be a tip?

I know I'm nuts but those are the immediate things I though of when I heard about the request. It would be different if it was discussed much earlier so that I could plan for it.

But back to point number 1...not sure how it's possible to NOT have fun with ST69 bcd.
I will imbibe with friends on ocassion, but would NEVER ask them to bring anything. My friends know what I like and will bring it on their own to share or I can put it up for later. I personally think it's tacky to ask a gent to bring anything other than himself/donation to the appt. We make enough money that we should have everything we need. Ladies asking for booze and covers? Really? I don't get it. As a few others mentioned, 2 alcohol related incidents in a week? That sends up HUGE red flags about the OP. Perhaps drinking during session ought not happen. Seems as though she can't handle her liquor. I don't know the gent in question.....but it does seem he got the short end of the stick.
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1st I'll say this guy sounds like somebody that can't be pleased. Birdie has 5 "NO" reviews. I haven't had 5 bad experiences in all of my time in the hobby. At least 2 of the "NOs" are of reputable, highly vouched for providers. ST69s review record speaks for itself.

2nd issue. I see the difference in asking for a soda compared to a bottle of tequila. A soda can be bought just about anywhere on the way to the appointment and will cost about 2 bucks. A bottle of Tequila can only be purchased in certain stores and cost about 30 bucks. In my opinion that's a huge difference and something that costs 30 should be deducted from the cost of the session not to mention it's not as convenient to just find a liquor store along the way.

I'll be honest and I have to agree with BLM on this one, when I make an appointment with somebody (especially somebody I've never seen before) I just want to make the appointment, drive there, give the donation, have fun, and leave. That's just how I feel about it.

Here is how my crazy mind would work if I get a text on the way asking for a bottle of tequila.
Am I going to be late?
Will it matter if I am late?
I can't use my credit card because I can't explain why I am in this part of town today.
If I did use my credit card then why didn't I bring what I purchased home?
I don't usually carry much cash with me as I pay for everything (except P4P) with credit\debit.
If I pay for it with cash what does that mean? Is it expected to come out of the session? It is supposed to be a tip?

I know I'm nuts but those are the immediate things I though of when I heard about the request. It would be different if it was discussed much earlier so that I could plan for it.

But back to point number 1...not sure how it's possible to NOT have fun with ST69 bcd. Originally Posted by L.A.
Great points. Accepting cash or a liquor store isn't an issue for me so I hadn't thought of it from your angle which is probably the majority.

I will imbibe with friends on ocassion, but would NEVER ask them to bring anything. My friends know what I like and will bring it on their own to share or I can put it up for later. I personally think it's tacky to ask a gent to bring anything other than himself/donation to the appt. We make enough money that we should have everything we need. Ladies asking for booze and covers? Really? I don't get it. As a few others mentioned, 2 alcohol related incidents in a week? That sends up HUGE red flags about the OP. Perhaps drinking during session ought not happen. Seems as though she can't handle her liquor. I don't know the gent in question.....but it does seem he got the short end of the stick. Originally Posted by Kendall4U
Great points also but you're the Gold Standard of how a lady should run her business and the voice of logic here. I hadn't seen the other alcohol post, yeah, they may want to leave that out of the business.