True or False? You Decide. White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden

Damn, it is good to be home! Originally Posted by bigtex

Back in Austin, are you?

As for this statement:

"For obvious reasons I am not going to say the same about Toolman!"

Perhaps a more accurate statement would have been ...

"For reasons obvious to me ...."

You reach back to August 2010 when your man still hadn't "released" ("found") his original birth certificate to quote someone ...

... there is a perfectly legitimate legal presumption that the refusal of someone to release documents indicates that the documents are not going to be "favorable" to the person who is withholding them.

Then in between the "clerk" starts "leaking rumors" that the original birth certificate was lost, misplaced, and/or just plain ... "gone" ... could not find it, blah, blah, blah.

Now given your logic, which could apply to OBL and this thread, if the WMD's didn't exist in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007, and suddenly appeared in 2008, you would be .... "suspicious" .... right?

Was OBL "really" in Afghanistan hunkered down in a cave in the mountains? Or was in sittin' around the "mansion" in Pakistan watching TV with his remote while wrapped in a blanket, like the kids on Saturday morning watching the cartoons, laughing at the news media assaulting Bush for dropping the ball and not getting him when he had a chance.....in Afghanistan!

Which brings up another question regarding "your man" ... how come during this administration "we" could penetrate into a foreign country's air space without permission, attack a house, kill people, and then leave ..... when "we" couldn't do that during Clinton's administration?

Back in Austin, are you?

Which brings up another question regarding "your man" ... how come during this administration "we" could penetrate into a foreign country's air space without permission, attack a house, kill people, and then leave ..... when "we" couldn't do that during Clinton's administration? Originally Posted by LexusLover

As you know this mission had a big "D" stamped on the side of it. Thus means that our Democratic friends are all for it. If it had a "R" stamped on it, they would be protesting saying that it's neo-con crap. In some of our Democratic friends mind "The Anointed One" can do no wrong and if you question what he is doing, you must be a racist.

When did "birther" become the new race card?

Did the actions of BHO create concern over his birth status? Yes.
Have the documents provided by BHO been above reproach? No.

Does it matter now? No.

The truth has no meaning to the faithful.

Toolman get over it. Osama was not caught on Bush's watch.

Stop sipping that tea. Originally Posted by ibechill

No, but how about that waterboarding??? Those same waterboarding sessions that Obama's Minister of Injustice wanted to prosecute interrogators for....actually DID produce a result.

When did "birther" become the new race card? Originally Posted by texasjohn1965

The term is used in a manner that is minimizing and belittling intellectually and is an attempt to pidgeon hole persons who question "their man's" legitimacy to hold office or even live up to his "snake oil" pitch of "transparency" ..... has much the same ring among the same folks as the label "teabagger" until the movement began to get legs and actually catapulted some folks into office that might not have been elected without the energy and loyalty they brought to the polls.

But you are also correct, since calling someone a racist has lost its punch.

That "card" won't hunt in 2012.

As you know this mission had a big "D" stamped on the side of it. Originally Posted by Squirrel88

Only because it was undertaken during a "D" administration ...

... for some reason my gut is telling me that the actual implementatoin of the operation was tasked with selfless individuals who customarily would lean to a Republican candidate and who have strong personal beliefs in the full and complete exercise of the 2nd amendment and the liberal application of the death penalty as an instrumentality to dispose of those who have a propensity to repeated efforts to indiscriminately hurt others.

As you know this mission had a big "D" stamped on the side of it. Thus means that our Democratic friends are all for it. If it had a "R" stamped on it, they would be protesting saying that it's neo-con crap. In some of our Democratic friends mind "The Anointed One" can do no wrong and if you question what he is doing, you must be a racist. Originally Posted by Squirrel88

They'd all be calling Bush a criminal.

Dont You fucktards know....



...SeAL Team Cat follows his own orders!

That's it? So he has embraced the "Birther" movement ...?

Let's get back to the thread topic .... Dali? Originally Posted by LexusLover

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9St...layer_embedded

this one is even better....


http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?...eature=related

Maybe you'll like this one better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdKIh...eature=related

No, but how about that waterboarding??? Those same waterboarding sessions that Obama's Minister of Injustice wanted to prosecute interrogators for....actually DID produce a result. Originally Posted by TexanAtPlay

Actually it did not. People involved have said that the information that lead to Bin Laden's death DID NOT come from any water boarding or torture sessions but rather from plain old fashion question and answer interrogation sessions.

People involved have said ........ Originally Posted by BigLouie

Well..there you go.

Hell, I was ok with the so called "Bush doctrine" last time. That is until GW completely lost focus ..... Originally Posted by bigtex

So are you for it or against it? Stop flip floping. Focus bintex, focus.

And stop living in the past throwing out arguments that have already been dispelled. Before you answer it...

Obama lost focus too! He's known about OBL presence in the compound for months. I don't believe for a second his story that there was a 55% chance OBL was there. Then BHO attacks Libya! When we aren't even out of Pakistan/Afghanistan and Iraq.

Then there's the Predator drone thing. Obama has used more Predator drone strikes in the past 2 years than Bush did in his Presidency: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan

Then BHO renegs on his closing Gitmo and keeping enemy combatants held without charges.

So which is it bintex? For it or against it? Don't say there's a lost focus when your man continues to bring more countries into wars and is throwing just as much money into it.

Actually it did not. People involved have said that the information that lead to Bin Laden's death DID NOT come from any water boarding or torture sessions but rather from plain old fashion question and answer interrogation sessions. Originally Posted by BigLouie

Have you every tried to answer questions while upside down facing upward with water covering the upper half of your body? It is hard to understand the answers to the questions because of all of the sputtering, snorting, coughing, and gurgling noise going on. And boy will I tell you that the water running deep "up" your sinuses burns like hell, especially if there are any chemicals or other substances in the water ... like the last guys spit and snot .... or urine that ran up his leg!