Ah what the hell, i tried to avoid it but this thread has been going on for a while and i am starting to feel left out.
I totally agree with Footlong on this. His comments have absolutely nothing to do with racism but only about why call out a girl because she's narrow minded or a bad ad writer or whatever. Those of us who have been around here many years have seen these threads umpteen times and you get weary of all this politically correct posturing on a silly sex for money board. Let them beat these arguments to death out in the real world but this is just about paying for pussy not about the racial implications of ads for prostitution. OOPs I said the wrong "P" word! Beat me with rice noodles. It's not about whores or prostitutes. Those things are illegal. It's about "providing". We are whoredogs chasing prostitute pussy. Do we really need to discuss a ban on insulting or offensive statements in someone's ad? Most of the world could really see us as perverts. How silly is it to get into a heated discussion of the propriety of provider's preferences?
Notice the alliteration "It's peculiar to ponder of the propriety of prejudiced provider's preferences"
Originally Posted by uparoundnoon
I agree with you for the most part. It's why i find it funny people get so bent out of shape discussing one sentence in one ad.
Eccie has a no animals policy. If a gal specializes in 3ways with her pet ostrich, she cant advertise that here because of the rules. Fine. She can advertise here, get a website, link to that in her ad, and spell out her non eccie approved stuff on her website.
If Eccie had a no discrimination on basis of race in ad policy, same thing. A gal could advertise here, get a website, link to her website in ad and spell out her rules there.
Anyone who has read my comments over the years knows me to to be tolerant and open-minded. I accept, but dont like, discreet NBA policy announcements. But this "security risk" nonsense? No way. What's next? "Sorry I dont see black men because I dont like fried chicken and watermelon breath - nothing personal?
So, where do you draw the line?
Originally Posted by flinde
True ECCIE does have those policies in place. To some extent they make sense to me because the activities that are not allowed to be discussed are also criminal. If we started discussing activities involving animals, kids, or drugs on top of hooking up in a pay for play site, then LE activity would really heat up around here, more so than it already is.
Unfortunately racism is not criminal and is not actionable unless it falls under certain laws which are established to get rid of discriminatory actions which as were already discussed in another thread a hooker refusing to blow you because you are black is not actionable.
So ok, the stating no African Americans bothers folks around here. Cool if we changed the guidelines to not allow this then we should change them to also not allow the ladies to ask about height, weight, appearance, and oh my some ask about race also in their ads, since all of those factors are also discriminatory practices.
Or you may say, Chuck, you are taking it to far, just not the insensitive post this provider wrote out (which i agree was a stupid post) and if they have this policy just place it in their website. Cool, we all know all hobbyists do extensive research as to the ladies requirements outside their ad on ECCIE. Honestly some don't even do that, they just click see number and contact. Then we are going to get a bunch of "Hobbiests need to read our websites" threads.
funny... I know i started something like this before but my views are a little different. Yes when I see a hottie and it says no black men I get a little upset but when I used to go threw the screen process and get turned away at the day I was a little more pissed.
I'm glad women put it up no black guys if thats their choice saves me time and money on a crappy time because she really dont like me.
I'm glad when its a part of the screening process because in my first PM i normally give my age/body build/race just to get it out the way a few turned me down but most laugh saying its not important
In case everyone here forgot when the ladies feel safe and have fun we all win so as long as no one gets hurt who cares what they say.
P.s. think its funny one of the first "black hobbiest" that got upset to this thread has an alert about them and shorting a lady money. If everyone just played nice Hobbying would be so much MORE fun.
Just my 2 cents.
Originally Posted by black5uperman
Well written post I also usually send a description of my self along with my age. If a provider is not comfortable with who i am then i move on to the next one. I don't come here and complain about her.
Y'all say that like...they like all other guys simply because they're white, or Asian or whatever, as if they're going to fall all over themselves for these clients.
Originally Posted by Rambro Creed
I don't think anyone is saying that. What most are saying is if someone does not like to see someone for whatever factor then that's their choice. I've been turned away a few times for being hispanic (not in SA) and even more times due to my age.
Do i like it? No, but i don't let it bother me or complain about it. As everybody has said, my money is as green as anyone elses and there is another provider willing to take it, so her loss, and i just move on.
Line up men of different races, all bald and not let them speak, and let her select one, while blindfolded, and see how much or little she 'enjoys' the encounter. Looks and skin color are just bullshit reasons to be selective.
Originally Posted by Rambro Creed
Unfortunately in a session the provider will not be blindfolded unless of course its some sort of kinky fetish session. Just like you can select who you see the provider can select who she sees. If she does not want to see someone then its her loss on some cash.
My own selection process is, IS SHE HOT? If the answer is yes, then she'd be someone I'd want to see.
Race is NOT a determining factor on who you will like or not like, have a good time or not a good time with, etc. What's so hard about calling this crap what it truly is?
Originally Posted by Rambro Creed
This is your preference. Why does everyone have to have the same view as you do? Plus you are also discriminating since you only ask yourself "is she hot?" What about the non-hot ones? I also don't think how hot someone is a determining factor on whether you will have a good time with them or not. However, you like them to be hot because that's what makes a session enjoyable for you. For some people that adds certain characteristics, height, weight, and race. Some guys only see latinas, some guys only see white ladies, some prefer asians, some prefer AA providers. It has nothing to do with racism, just with a preference.
That's why I prefer a provider let me know upfront what her "no" preferences are, so that if i don't fit into them, i don't have to bother researching her and getting excited about seeing her and then get rejected.
Plus just discussing the topic here does not do much good. Why not suggest it to the board owners/administrators and let them decide if they want to make the change or restrict it to providers only being able to ask about "height, age, weight, and race" without making it specific to any particular race in their ads.
I'm humiliated, distrought, and damaged for life. I think $3 million in compensation (to pay for my therapy, court fees, lost time at work, and to see other providers..errr, I mean see other courtesans for time and compansion) would cover it, your honor...or whatever you think is fair, your honor."
I haven't read all the post yet but I will stand up for her about banning her....that is just wrong....why are you guys so quick to ban someone....especially women...okay...why not just send her a pm and tell her to phrase her ad differently next time....that's all it's to it.....she is new...but I'm old....I'm mixed...and one day ....our president will tell you why he was brought up in Hawaii...just like I was brought up in Japan...because why this country is so willing to "gang" up against someone without hearing the other side......I am mixed (black and white and look hispanic) and to see the hatred back then for mixing the blood was just like you guys did me with ......meanguns.....(and "A" out of corpus) I didn't screen him enough and the only reason I did see him is because I do keep my "word.....look up his Id....(I guess I should phrase my ads to say...I don't see anyone with more that two tats....I don't need a "BF.")