This link provides no information on how much federal income taxes Illegal Aliens are paying into the system. Money that remains in the system and is not reimbursed.
Originally Posted by DTorrchia
Actually it does. You either:
a. couldn't be bothered to read it
b. didn't understand it
c. too stubborn to accept it, or
d. all of the above.
Since my vote is d, I will walk you though it.
As a point of reference in this quick journey,
this link estimates the total Federal tax burden by illegals at $29 billion dollars. I will not only show you the Federal dollars collected by illegals that remains in the system that is not reimbursed, but I will also show you that non-reimbursed revenue stream is pretty damn close to the so-called "burden" this link claims.
Let's start with Social Security and Medicare. According to
this article by the NY Times,
"...the estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/bu...tion.html?_r=2
Remembering of course that illegal aliens are not eligible to collect Social Security or Medicare, this is money that is collected, but not reimbursed. This article is dated 2005 and I have read other estimates that the current amount is upwards of $9 billion or more, but for the sake of not embarassing you too badly in public, we'll use the modest $7 billion provided. You can even squabble over a billion or two if you like, but let's keep your statement above in mind, in that if even one dollar is collected and not reimbursed, your position's already defeated. That said, let's move on.
Next up, ITIN's. For those not familiar,
"IRS issues ITINs to individuals who are required to have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but who do not have, and are not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) from the Social Security Administration (SSA).
ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have a U.S. filing or reporting requirement under the Internal Revenue Code."
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/artic...222209,00.html
ITIN's are essentially the instrument used by illegals to pay taxes legitimately on their income. According to this article in the NY Times,
"In 2005 alone, more than $5 billion in tax liability — the total owed, including money withheld from paychecks during the year — was reported in the 2.9 million returns that listed at least one person with an ITIN, she said. And between 1996 and 2003, such filers reported nearly $50 billion of tax liability."
Read that again in case you missed it. $5 billion in
total owed in 2005. Again, this is 2005. Current estimates are upwards of $7-9 billion collected through ITIN's. Now, I can't make the claim that ALL ITIN's issued are done on behalf of illegal aliens, but it's widely accepted that most are. Mainly because they're not much use to anyone else. If you're here legally, you can be issued a SSN. Go ahead an squabble a few billion if you like, but again if even one dollar is owed and collected through ITIN filers, your position is defeated.
Lastly, and this is my personal favorite...the ESF. Not familiar?
"When an earnings report contains a name and/or SSN that does not match SSA's records and cannot be resolved, the report cannot be posted to an individual earnings record in SSA's Master Earnings File. Instead, the report is posted to the ESF, a repository for unmatched wages."
http://www.ssa.gov/oig/communication...6testimony.htm
What an ESF boils down to a SSN that can not be matched to someone, or that matches someone who is either too old or too young to work, or is dead. From the same link:
"From Tax Years (TY) 1937 through 2003, the most recent year for which data is available, the ESF accumulated about 255 million wage reports, representing $520 billion in wages, that SSA remains unable to resolve. As of October 2005, approximately 8.8 million wage reports, representing $57.8 billion in wages, remained in the suspense file for TY 2003 alone."
"SSA has stated that it believes unauthorized work by non-citizens is a major cause of wage items being posted to the ESF instead of an individual's earnings record."
Now read that again..."$
8.8 billion on wage reports on $57.8 billion in wages" for tax year 2003. Again, money collected and not reimbursed.
Let's tally this before I finish up...
$7 billion in uncollectable legitimate Social Security and Medicare
$7 billion in legitimate taxes owed through ITIN's
$8.8 billion on non-legitmate ESF funds
7 + 7 + 8.8 = $22.8 Billion in "m
oney that remains in the system and is not reimbursed".
HOLY SHIT GENIUS! That's only $6.2 billion away from the $29 billion so-called "burden" estimated in 2011. And don't forget, this data is at least six years old.
What's not included in your statement is other Federal taxes collected that are not wage based. Here's two...federal tax on gasoline and federal excise tax on utilities and communications like land lines and cell phones. Just for fun, let's play with the gas tax for a few moments:
In 2011, the Federal excise tax on gasoline is
18.4 cents per gallon.
In 2010, United States consumed about 138.6 billion gallons of gasoline. Let's do some math...
138,600,000,000 * .184 = $25,502,400,000 in Federal gasoline tax collected.
Overall, there were an estimated 254.4 million registered passenger vehicles in the United States, or 82% of the population if you prefer. If we use the same percentage against the number of illegals you get:
12 million * .82 = 9,840,000 illegal alien vehicles. We all know it's probably far less than that based on their income levels, but good luck finding that number somewhere. Let's run with it for now, just trying to prove a point.
So let's break that $25 billion on to a per vehicle figure....That's $100 dollars in Federal gasoline tax per vehicle per year. I'm know I'm not showing my math here, but trust me, it's correct.
$100 * 9,840,000 = $984,000,000
Oh, dear me, say it isn't so!! That's almost another BILLION dollars in Federal tax "m
oney that remains in the system and is not reimbursed."
I'll leave the Federal excise tax on utilities and communications up to you if you think your Google and math skills are up to it. Bonus points if you can think of any other Federal taxes that might be collected by illegals and not reimbursed.
"...and that's all I have to say about that."
