Looks like orange cult leader is getting a little nervous

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Like all the other salacious tidbits in his shameful life.

MAGAs who try to argue that they are "family values" people and "Christians" despite supporting for Trumpf must forever own Trumps sins, as they elevated this man to their throne.
Never said it was a hoax, just asking for proof. You know like everyone wanting the Epstein files because they're sure Trump is in them.

You all seem awful eager to jump on anything anti Trump even though there is no proof. Originally Posted by Iceman
... Not-onley is there NO PROOF - it's all rather obvious
that IF there was a bad connection to Trump - it surely
would've been revealed by now - or Trump would have been
forced to abandon any thoughts of chasing the presidency
in 2024.

... Biden, OBama, Hillary and others would've played that
card before now. ... And EVERYONE is aware of that fact.

#### Salty
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The best thing to do is wait and see, Salty....and see what the investigation brings to the surface.


Now it looks like Trump is hiding something, or attempting to.


Or he is being an honorable person by not releasing the various names in the Epstein papers......whose very association without any wrongdoing would be tainted.
... Not-onley is there NO PROOF - it's all rather obvious
that IF there was a bad connection to Trump - it surely
would've been revealed by now - or Trump would have been
forced to abandon any thoughts of chasing the presidency
in 2024.

... Biden, OBama, Hillary and others would've played that
card before now. ... And EVERYONE is aware of that fact.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
He could simply release everything rather than obfuscate.
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Who cares?
If it is presented, what concern would it have for you?
If not, than donny might get a few bucks by court order. Originally Posted by Precious_b
Never said it was a hoax, just asking for proof. You know like everyone wanting the Epstein files because they're sure Trump is in them.

You all seem awful eager to jump on anything anti Trump even though there is no proof. Originally Posted by Iceman
Did I say it was a hoax? Gets me that anybody would be surprised that donny did send a B-day card. Like they both admit, they were best buds. I would really be surprised if the melange one turned down the ladies request to send Epstein a card.

Now, I invite you, and let me tell you that y'all maggies *REALLY* hate be called on to clarify things, what in my post you replied to is anti trump?

I have complimented fearless leader in the past. And it wasn't backhanded like the maggies love doing.

But with your reply, I know, you'll probably pull the ol' salty line
He could simply release everything rather than obfuscate. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

I agree. The offenses here cross party lines. Democrats on the list? Release it. Republicans on the list? Release it. Enough people from both parties on the list to shake government to it's foundation. Release it. Fuck this shit...it's a line that cannot be crossed to allow it to be buried and the people involved to slink off and die of natural causes.
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He could simply release everything rather than obfuscate. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
No, that is not possible. Anyone that had any contact at all with Epstein would suffer reputational harm at this point.

As an example after Bill Gates association was known, a divorce followed and his foundation suffered.

And I believe no data has come out except for a few dinner meetings.
Allow people to explain their association. Keeping this info secret just further spurs conspiracy theories. Met for lunch to discuss business, cool, say that. Took flights on his plane to his private island for a party, takes more explaining. Hundreds of politicians, business people and celebrities met with and hung out with Diddy, we’re not trying to hide those connections. People can defend themselves.
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I understand what you mean 1b1, but I think that now, it has become an unnecessary witch hunt due to how poorly it has been handled by bimbo Bondi and her boss. If it was just immediately done as promised and the victims' names were redacted, I think it would have been a rather easy task to execute, and people could do just as you suggest. But now, I think it would be like throwing blood in shark infested waters and making people jump in.
It’s too late. It’s not going away, even with Trump crying and his minions claiming nothing to see or witch-hunt or Leftist conspiracy or whatever they attempt next. Trump, Bondi, Kash and Bongino played it up to the base during the election and when they initially took office and now they will have to deal with it.
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It's not too late. There is no reason to release names of anyone who had association with Epstein.


If your name was mentioned somewhere, you would have to answer a lot of questions, for a long time,
and your business would likely suffer.
I predict if the list ever does come out ... it will be so heavily redacted by various intelligence agencies (" name redacted for national security reasons")... in order to protect well-connected operatives from embarrassment and censure ...that it will be virtually meaningless!
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Conspiracy theories are never satisfied. Therefore most of this discussion is meaningless.
Exclusive: Newly discovered photos and video shed fresh light on Trump’s ties to Jeffrey Epstein


Newly uncovered archived video footage and photos reveal fresh details about Donald Trump’s past relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

Photos from 1993 confirm for the first time that Epstein attended Trump’s 1993 wedding to Marla Maples. Epstein’s attendance at the ceremony at the Plaza Hotel was not widely known until now.

In addition, footage from a 1999 Victoria’s Secret fashion event in New York shows Trump and Epstein laughing and chatting together ahead of the runway event. CNN’s KFile uncovered the raw footage during a review of archival video of Trump at events in the 1990s and 2000s. Trump and Epstein appeared together in at least one video among the limited archival footage reviewed.