In my opinion this guy is spending his time contacting other members with a style and finesse he knows he needs and looking to replace Ranchhand as quickly as possible. Considering the gig has some perks I have no doubt he will find a guy.Hey whispers, put in a good wurd for me......I love free pussy
. Originally Posted by Whispers
- dearhunter
- 02-26-2013, 05:53 PM
- Qziz
- 02-26-2013, 05:54 PM
- cinnamonshark
- 02-26-2013, 06:19 PM
All that I am going to say on this big-ass ECCIE issue is that I am waiting, watching, and wondering what the end result of this entire thing is going to be.
- homer13
- 02-26-2013, 07:28 PM
truth bombs Originally Posted by NewWaveYa truth bombs that got me five points. I guess Whispers is the only one that's allowed to tell the truth without consequences.
- Whispers
- 02-26-2013, 08:55 PM
Ya truth bombs that got me five points. I guess Whispers is the only one that's allowed to tell the truth without consequences. Originally Posted by homer13"Truth" can be told without being disrespectful..... If that is what earned you the points.....
- Toyz
- 02-26-2013, 09:54 PM
Ya truth bombs that got me five points. I guess Whispers is the only one that's allowed to tell the truth without consequences. Originally Posted by homer13
You are a fucking point magnet, my friend.
There is a statement I subscribe to "absolute power corrupts...absolutely".
I think it must be tremendously tempting to know you have the ability to score young, semi untapped pussy simply by annointing the girl with your staff & assuring her future is secured. Its like free publicity for selling something. Right or wrong, we are in a hobby of questionable morales on all fronts.
MODS are availed a ton of opportunities not afforded the normal poster. Ignore it or not, its pretty obvious if you use common sense. Do they partake? I'm sure some if not most do. Do some manipulate their positions for gain? To think otherwise would be tremendously naive. Do I have a shread of evidence? Nope, and no motivation to find any either. Live & let live.
I don't think we on the board-male/female/gender confused-are all these virtues of morale value to simply say "OMG this guy was a terrible person". Did he miss use his "powers", sure seems so. But what was the true risk? That he would no longer be a non-payed moderator for a online chat board? A bit of perspective please.
Its the old "risk vs reward" scenario. In his mind, parlaying his position into free pussy was worth it. Maybe he regrets it, but I kind of wonder if hes not chuckling about his "accomplshments" & will just re-appear under another handle...albeit with a bit less stature in this community.
Are there lessons to be learned by the community? I think so. But, to me, it just makes me more leary of opinions of those in power...and to question their base motivations. Right or wrong, this is an edict we should all consider.
- Carl
- 02-26-2013, 10:54 PM
Well, whether Ranchhand is a formerly decent guy gone way bad or has been a bad guy all along that finally slipped up and showed his true colors, last time I checked (this afternoon) he's still listed as a Supermoderator on his public profile and still listed as moderating the Killeen board.
- Whispers
- 02-26-2013, 11:25 PM
This topic is also posted in the Killeen CoEd Section and Old Sarge, a long time friend of Ranchhand weighed in on the matter. I've quoted it below.
OldSarge is a man with whom I have disagreed with on many occasions on several topics.
Although I may disagree with him on some subjects, I have always recognized the respect he has had from members of the community.
Even on this particular subject I truthfully believe we are motivated for different reasons..... but both seeking the same ending.....
OldSarge has shown far more outrage for how this has affected the ladies involved in all of this where my outrage lies more in how someone leveraged his position in the community and his stature among his peers as well as knowledge and access to the site to pervert it's actual purpose.
He is probably the nobler of us in looking out for the ladies. Had I not known one of the young ladies personally I would simply be outraged at the disinformation produced by the perverted process that was created and the aspect of a corrupted MOD. I do, after this case, feel the need to rethink my position on a few things.... Maybe it will make me a bit more sensitive to some things....
OldSarge is a man with whom I have disagreed with on many occasions on several topics.
Although I may disagree with him on some subjects, I have always recognized the respect he has had from members of the community.
Even on this particular subject I truthfully believe we are motivated for different reasons..... but both seeking the same ending.....
OldSarge has shown far more outrage for how this has affected the ladies involved in all of this where my outrage lies more in how someone leveraged his position in the community and his stature among his peers as well as knowledge and access to the site to pervert it's actual purpose.
He is probably the nobler of us in looking out for the ladies. Had I not known one of the young ladies personally I would simply be outraged at the disinformation produced by the perverted process that was created and the aspect of a corrupted MOD. I do, after this case, feel the need to rethink my position on a few things.... Maybe it will make me a bit more sensitive to some things....
Many of you know I left the board back in June of last year, confident in leaving the forum in the good hands of Ranch. Only this month, have I logged back into ECCIE and had my account restored.
I received a call back in the first week of December, from a well known Austin provider, who said there were rumors that Ranch was pimping out girls and taking money from them. I told her that I have known Ranch for 6+ years and that was not the Ranch I knew, that I could not believe the stories. She called me later to say that the story had been killed......
I was sincere when I said that about Ranch.
Within HOURS of me logging back on to ECCIE, after being off the board for over 7 months, my PM box began to fill and my phone began to fill with voice mails and text messages.
I knew immediately that something was wrong in our happy community. Having been a former Austin Mod, I can tell you that I have seen some shitstorms brew up every now and then. Wading through them takes time and patience and skill.
I met in person, with a provider who asked to see me immediately. She came by my office and began to tell me her story. She named names. (Names I knew) She named events layed out the backstory..... I have heard this one before..... Then she told me what Ranch was doing with respect to her account, his demands for services as a Mod and that he demanded cash from appointments she made.
I found this hard to believe. I suggested she change the password to her account and thereby locking anyone out of her PMs, who might "accidentally" have access. I had her log on to her account and showed her how to change the password herself. Within hours, she received some heated text messages from Ranchhand. I asked to see them and her phone. The number of origination of the text messages was indeed Ranchhand's number.
She went on to tell me that she had not made the forum posts from her account, nor had she answered all of her PMs. She also said that when she DID answer her own PM's, she was often criticized by Ranch for doing so.
I suggested she guest or delete her account and start over.
She set up a new account and was verified by someone that had seen her BCD. The account was set up in a different forum.
That seemed to work, until Ranchhand found out. He sent her unedited photos, identical to the ones she had posted with her face blurred. When she asked "why?" she was told by Ranch that he thought she might "want them". I told her to ignore the text and the photos.
Later, personal photos of her, lifted from her real world Facebook page were sent electronically to her by Ranchhand.
I did not want to believe this in December. I did not want to believe this in February.
I DO believe it, as I have seen the evidence with my own eyes and have heard the testimony of a very frightened and credible lady, who is well known by several mutual friends here. Just because one is UTR, does not mean that they are not well-known.
Whispers and I agree to disagree at times. While we have sparred in the past in the Austin boards (heck, he even got banned for 30 days once for being disrespectful to OldSarge - we had a good laugh at that one - because I took no offense and he meant none) we both share some similar backgrounds and we can agree to disagree. We DO agree that the truth is important, and making a claim of fact is something that neither of us do lightly.
Ranch has read this forum and these posts for several days now. He has been on the board for hours since these posts were made, and has publicly remained silent.
Ranch, I stood up for you in December, because I believed it was the right thing to do, and without facts in front of me, I supported you.
Ranch, I have the facts from the last few weeks in front of me. I have examined them. I have talked to multiple witnesses. There are electronic records. The facts have been placed into evidence. Your silence on this is deafening. I am publicly asking you to do what you privately have told others you would do.
Simply step down as mod and guest your account.
The owners and other mods have the facts, the Killeen, Waco, BCS community have the testimony of more than one person here. There are others who will come forward if needed.
Do not go down in a fireball, simply fade away into retirement.
Respectfully and regrettably submitted,
OldSarge Originally Posted by OldSarge
- Whispers
- 02-26-2013, 11:42 PM
Hey whispers, put in a good wurd for me......I love free pussy Originally Posted by dearhunterFrom my conversations with him I do not believe his expansion plans include Houston.
Perhaps you should contact some Local Pimps and offer your service to them..... With your background you could certainly assist them in catering to a kinkier crowd
- Magically Muzed
- 02-26-2013, 11:59 PM
No, I do not plan on expanding to Houston. I actually no longer am associated with this business that is being discussed here. I did sale a business to a reputable provider who I am sure is reading this and she has done quite well for herself. It is on here as an agency and she has still maintained her reputation here as a provider and also as a "booking agent" for her agency. This is my only dealings in Austin.. I was there.. not any longer. I'm not a "in the shadow's" kinda guy. I am always eager to meet anyone for a drink any time. I have NEVER treated any ladies with disrespect. We all have our own beliefs and thoughts on "Pimp/Manager/Agency"... They can all be different and right at the same time. I actually encourage anyone I have worked with to leave and go truly indy when they were ready, and they would be the judge of that.. There are currently many true indy providers who have started with me and have nothing but positive things to say about my character. Yes, I have made mistakes and it is unfortunate that some of my mistakes have brought a negative impact on the ladies that I have worked for. Some things I am unable to change but am yet able to learn from. Many of the providers in the Killeen/Waco area over the last 2 years have been through me. I am not here to boast this just simply to enlighten. Ranch played a roll in assisting with eccie and a former mod helped prior. This is all I am willing to disclose at this time. I am not here to say anything negative OR positive about anyone. I am simply putting myself out here with no regard or concern of your opinions of me. Feel free to either message me here on eccie with any questions. When this fire storm is over all I want is full transparancy from ALL parties involved. I know for a FACT that many things are being left out or omitted here in this pulitzer prize nominated story and I simply wish that ALL information be given. Information flows all ways. My only real request after this post. Thanks for keeping me out of this so far. I have great respect for many eccie members and I only wish the best.
- NewWave
- 02-27-2013, 01:22 AM
No, I do not plan on expanding to Houston. I actually no longer am associated with this business that is being discussed here. I did sale a business to a reputable provider who I am sure is reading this and she has done quite well for herself. It is on here as an agency and she has still maintained her reputation here as a provider and also as a "booking agent" for her agency. This is my only dealings in Austin.. I was there.. not any longer. I'm not a "in the shadow's" kinda guy. I am always eager to meet anyone for a drink any time. I have NEVER treated any ladies with disrespect. We all have our own beliefs and thoughts on "Pimp/Manager/Agency"... They can all be different and right at the same time. I actually encourage anyone I have worked with to leave and go truly indy when they were ready, and they would be the judge of that.. There are currently many true indy providers who have started with me and have nothing but positive things to say about my character. Yes, I have made mistakes and it is unfortunate that some of my mistakes have brought a negative impact on the ladies that I have worked for. Some things I am unable to change but am yet able to learn from. Many of the providers in the Killeen/Waco area over the last 2 years have been through me. I am not here to boast this just simply to enlighten. Ranch played a roll in assisting with eccie and a former mod helped prior. This is all I am willing to disclose at this time. I am not here to say anything negative OR positive about anyone. I am simply putting myself out here with no regard or concern of your opinions of me. Feel free to either message me here on eccie with any questions. When this fire storm is over all I want is full transparancy from ALL parties involved. I know for a FACT that many things are being left out or omitted here in this pulitzer prize nominated story and I simply wish that ALL information be given. Information flows all ways. My only real request after this post. Thanks for keeping me out of this so far. I have great respect for many eccie members and I only wish the best. Originally Posted by Magically MuzedI actually think the above poster is in fact telling the truth and a big part behind the latest eccie drama. I noticed his posts in the Killeen board, always figured he was a pimp then, in fact he basically admitted he was part of the biz in this thread http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=492179&highlight=
sounds like he was connected to our former mod there (was that Horn I Dog? I can't remember).
Toyz you brought up great points and Homer really dropped some truth bombs in his post, which of course got him points.
While Ranch really got in over his head, even if he is retired as a mod, this will always be an ongoing problem here or on any "Provider" site. like Toyz was saying, power corrupts absolutely and pussy is one of the greatest perks of all time. There are also systems in place that are far more entrenched than any of us realize (at least beyond my scope), and ready to take advantage of whoever is in power. you know, just like politics.
Even though Ranch definitely crossed the line, tbh, he seems like the type of middle management guy that gets busted while the real power players keep on rolling. Same thing happens in government. Sort of what Homer alluded to earlier. I guess like anything, it's really about how far one wants to go down the rabbit hole....
- Ranchhand
- 02-27-2013, 02:54 AM
Ok, I am going to post in this thread since I seem to be the center of attention. I will post once and one time only, then I will never read this again. First off I want to apologize to the board for what I have done. Second, you have not heard the full story, I will leave that to someone else, but it will come out I assure you. What I did was wrong and I take full responsibility for it
To all the guys and ladies that have sent me supportive pm's I do thank you for that. I wont tell the whole story here, I will leave that to someone else.
As to the accusations against me, about 10 per cent are true and the other 90 per cent were created for the drama.
Whispers has fabricated many facets of what happened, just one example he states that I was involved with 20 to 30 ladies, There were only 4 ladies that I was involved with. 2 have thanked me for my help, and will tell you that I never took one penny from them. I did have one offer to pay me for my help in screening for her and I refused. The part he states on the Austin board. I never once answered a pm for a lady, which was also stated. I did have one of the ladies ask me to take care of her pm's, because she said she was overwhelmed by the whole thing but I refused to do that. I would never reply to a pm from a member that was intended for the lady. Many other things that have been said are also lies, but I will not qualify them with a answer. As I said there is a lot more to the story that hasnt come out, but it will. Regretfully I can not tell you who all was involved because I am not the type of person that would out anyone.
I have tried to be a good mod, I made a mistake, and I will pay for it with my reputation. I can assure you that all that is being said about me is NOT true. I know it probably does no good to come on here and try to defend myself, therefore I wont.
This will not die because of the explosive nature of a Mod being involved, and Whispers and one other will not ever turn it loose.
I have spoken with the owner of the board and he will make the decision if I will remain a Mod or not. I did tell him that if he thinks I can no longer be effective then to accept my letter to him as my resignation.
I did not use my position as a Mod to coerce any of the ladies I dealt with, but I did make a mistake by thinking I could make a difference.
I have enjoyed my interaction with many of you on this board, in public and in pm. If I go thats one thing I will miss. I am 67 years old and should have known better than to try to handle this situation alone. The old saying, live and learn, as I have said before, I have lived but obviously I have not learned.
Im sure there will be a few that chastise me for this post, but thats ok, I deserve it. I will not be reading it anyway, as I am moving on from this.
Also there is a great possibility, I wont be listed at the top of the page as Moderator, if that happens, I want all of you to know that I did enjoy my time here, and hopefully I was fair to everyone, at least I tried to be.
Again, let me apologize to everyone that put their trust in me and I failed them. Im just a old guy that has a lot of time to spend on the computer and thought I could be a benifit to the board.
Now this is just for the sacrimonious ones that hide behind their computer board. Let your chastising begin.
On a final note, I am in no way trying to defend my actions, but as far as I know there was only one person over time that didnt make a mistake, and they nailed him to a cross.
Respectfully and Sadly submitted Ranchhand
To all the guys and ladies that have sent me supportive pm's I do thank you for that. I wont tell the whole story here, I will leave that to someone else.
As to the accusations against me, about 10 per cent are true and the other 90 per cent were created for the drama.
Whispers has fabricated many facets of what happened, just one example he states that I was involved with 20 to 30 ladies, There were only 4 ladies that I was involved with. 2 have thanked me for my help, and will tell you that I never took one penny from them. I did have one offer to pay me for my help in screening for her and I refused. The part he states on the Austin board. I never once answered a pm for a lady, which was also stated. I did have one of the ladies ask me to take care of her pm's, because she said she was overwhelmed by the whole thing but I refused to do that. I would never reply to a pm from a member that was intended for the lady. Many other things that have been said are also lies, but I will not qualify them with a answer. As I said there is a lot more to the story that hasnt come out, but it will. Regretfully I can not tell you who all was involved because I am not the type of person that would out anyone.
I have tried to be a good mod, I made a mistake, and I will pay for it with my reputation. I can assure you that all that is being said about me is NOT true. I know it probably does no good to come on here and try to defend myself, therefore I wont.
This will not die because of the explosive nature of a Mod being involved, and Whispers and one other will not ever turn it loose.
I have spoken with the owner of the board and he will make the decision if I will remain a Mod or not. I did tell him that if he thinks I can no longer be effective then to accept my letter to him as my resignation.
I did not use my position as a Mod to coerce any of the ladies I dealt with, but I did make a mistake by thinking I could make a difference.
I have enjoyed my interaction with many of you on this board, in public and in pm. If I go thats one thing I will miss. I am 67 years old and should have known better than to try to handle this situation alone. The old saying, live and learn, as I have said before, I have lived but obviously I have not learned.
Im sure there will be a few that chastise me for this post, but thats ok, I deserve it. I will not be reading it anyway, as I am moving on from this.
Also there is a great possibility, I wont be listed at the top of the page as Moderator, if that happens, I want all of you to know that I did enjoy my time here, and hopefully I was fair to everyone, at least I tried to be.
Again, let me apologize to everyone that put their trust in me and I failed them. Im just a old guy that has a lot of time to spend on the computer and thought I could be a benifit to the board.
Now this is just for the sacrimonious ones that hide behind their computer board. Let your chastising begin.
On a final note, I am in no way trying to defend my actions, but as far as I know there was only one person over time that didnt make a mistake, and they nailed him to a cross.
Respectfully and Sadly submitted Ranchhand
- Toyz
- 02-27-2013, 06:15 AM
You can trade them in on "Ranchhand Credits".
What are "Ranchhand Credits" you might ask??
Ranchhand Credits" or RHC's, allow a poster to take those hard earned points and trade them for.
What are "Ranchhand Credits" you might ask??
Ranchhand Credits" or RHC's, allow a poster to take those hard earned points and trade them for.
- Rides to an IC
- Rides on a new girl
- Facebook Photos of your favorite girl-Framed!
- Backless jeans for girls...makes it easy to bend over for that unexpected fucking
- "Do it the Ranchhand way" TShirts
- "You got fucked over by Ranchand" Hoodies
- "Whats that hand gripping my balls" baseball caps
- dearhunter
- 02-27-2013, 07:33 AM
Ranchhand, how wonderful for you that you have the courage to walk away from this situation......and pretty selfish.
You owe your fellow retards more than that. Name all the handles involved and let the chips fall where they may.
You owe your fellow retards more than that. Name all the handles involved and let the chips fall where they may.
- Carl
- 02-27-2013, 08:38 AM
At 67 years old I'd have expected more restraint and honorable behavior than lying, accepting off-the-books perks that amount to bribes, and ham-fisted internet stalker-ish behavior. Must not have learned that in the Marine Corps.