Economy and the hobby

.......and just wait until next year and what "our" government is going to do to U.S.

Spend less just means the real whores will shine..lol...j/k we're all pretty, sweet,
so-fisted types here, right.

-How in the hell can/does a guy dictate or force a provider's rate?


Seriously. There are all sorts of accusations/claims in this thread that this is being done and I have yet to see anything from this end that would lead me to believe that this "forced" rate is even going on.

-Doesn't a provider have the final say in ANY decision they make; including her rate?

If it's something she's not agreeable to, why wouldn't she just say no?
Are these turds holding a gun to the lady's head or what?

I am completely serious with regard to the questions above because I cannot, for the life of me, wrap my fingers around the fact that some dude wields so much power that he could pull-off a stunt like this.

Regards,
SKF




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Originally Posted by SofaKingFun
George Clooney,

I couldn't agree more and I do miss see your mug these days. Hobbyists can't force providers to lower/raise their rates. Often time, it is the providers in super-competitive mode who may feel pressured to lower their rates when they see other women doing it. The economy is not what it was 10 years ago, but if a girl offers consistent, great services with a steady repeat client base, she shouldn't have to fluctuate her rates dramatically.

The money is definitely there and there is a "type of lady/provider" for every hobbyist. Lord knows I am not for everyone. Some men love shopping at Wal-Mart to find great bargains on clothing that serves the same purpose, while other men prefer shopping at Saks 5th Avenue because the quality and beauty of the clothing at Saks may very well surpass the clothing found at Wal-Mart. While some men opt for the quickie dollar menu at McDonald's to get a quick satisfaction, there are other men who want to "experience" prime-rib at The Palm.

In Dallas, there are beautiful ladies who are as inexpensive at $160/hr to $600/hr. I choose not to see new clients under 3 benjis. That's my preference and for every hardworking gentleman who complains about my $$$ rate, there is a doctor or lawyer in downtown San Antonio who gladly wants that same exact appointment and often leaves a hefty tip to top it.

Just some thoughts, but I fully agree.

xoxo

Angelina
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I tried not to get involved in this but I feel I need to put my 2 cents in.
1st. To all providers charge what you are comfortable with charging, its your time, your skills and your talents. As with any Entrepreneur, it starts and ends with you.
2nd. To all the guys out here pay what you are comfortable with paying. If you think rates are too high then don't see that provider. We are fortunate to have such great variety in our community, whether or not you choose to make use of it is up to you.
3rd. At this point let the market/supply-demand determine if your rates are too high or too low. We all know times are tough, especially on a service industry like this one and people that make use of said services. I value the providers on this site and as always welcome any input from them on matters concerning this community and all issues related to it. I also welcome the vast knowledge and experience from all the gentlemen who also make use of our little community here.
I am now done with my soap box, have a great day and stay safe, bye.
  • DaMan
  • 07-19-2010, 02:44 PM
Ah, the periodic thread of rates There's a huge body of literature about the psychology of pricing and much of it boils down to what people are willing to pay. That's both obvious and profound.

If sellers want to compete on low prices, there's a ton of competition, and it seems that there's always somebody willing to go even lower and drive prices down. In this business, that's a risky strategy for a lot of reasons.

To justify higher prices, a seller has to offer something special, whether it be a greater amount of service or a specific niche.

For somebody such as Angelina, she has a regular clientele who find value in her service. Admittedly, I'm a new member of the AA fan club and understand completely why she can and does charge more. It is truly about the experience. I compare time with her to the experience of dining at a Michelin-starred restaurant, which is about the cuisine and the decor and the service. Expensive, but worth it. I like that she's dressed up when I arrive and we enjoy some champagne and that we have a very pleasant conversation, in addition to the outstanding BCD activities. (I'm stashing hobby funds right now for my next visit with her.)

That said, I have paid $ in the past and felt like I paid way too much, and I have paid considerably more and felt like I got a bargain. For hobbyists, it's a matter of what kind of experience we want and what we're comfortable spending.

I know that plenty of my hobby brethren focus more on the BCD activities and conversation, etc. takes away from the main event. That's a preference, and another reason to research before investing in a hour or so of entertainment.

This entire thread show the importance of hobbyists and providers researching and deciding what type of experience they're seeking or delivering.
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Just read an interesting article on the psychology of pricing. In fact ter researchers who did it won the Noble prize in economics a few years ago.

Basically the researchers had subjects spin a wheel with an equal number of spaces with the two numbers 25 and 75 on all of the spaces. They then asked a completely unrelated question like, "What percentage of the population of Africa are Christians?" They proved that if a person's spin of the wheel had landed on the higher number (75) they were much more likely to pick a higher percentage than those who landed on the lower number (25). It was simply the influence of that number on the brain.

This is the same strategy that many restaurants use when pricing their wine lists. Typically, the SECOND lowest priced wine on the wine has the highest markup. No one wants to feel cheap, so they will typically not go for the lowest priced bottle which has usually been marked up quite a bit but for the second which is only slightly higher. Many times this wine's cost to the restaurant is equal to or even LESS than the lowest priced wine. Then there will be several wines that are significantly higher in price than those. Thus tricking the brain into thinking that you're getting a good deal.

Electronic dealers do the same by offering two versions of a product. One priced VERY high and another with almost the exact same features but priced significantly lower. When comparing the two, people look at the second one and figure they're getting a great deal. Of course the high priced product is simply a red herring to create the perception of value on the lower priced item.

Anyway, just food for thought on the pricing debate. And NO, I'm not equating the lovely ladies here to these items, I just found it interesting and maybe it will help someone when they are considering what prices a given market will bear.
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  • sanan
  • 07-19-2010, 05:43 PM
I am enjoying this thread immensely being both an investor - burnt out by shorts ...aren'w we all - and a hobbyist.

Seriously folks in the couple of months I have explored SA I went from bad service HHs @ 1.2 to excellent service @ .6 to .8.

As somebody already said, shop around.

I recall meeting with a well know 'p' and having a mediocre time of it, cost me well over $.5 but just last week I was absolutely satisfied by an unknown off of the other SA advert site. Yes she is BETTER than anything I have gotten at any time in SA.

Ok a spinner Latina - happens to be one of my things - but new to the business, but fitted like a tailor made suit, did all the nice things like dfk from the get go, clinging to me all the way, and fussing over me when done! And it went way over time, talk about service, and yes I will be watching out for this one every week.

So yeah there is an economic downturn, maybe some of the high dollar ladies might learn something from the young thangs on south side streets! How about young, tight and economical!

Well then this is really gonna grab ya...

The so called "hobby" was never intended for EVERYONE.

If you have to "save up" then it is not disposable income.

Ladies this is one you can not win. Hell, some of these very posters can not even admitt to stuff they have posted in the past.
If you do choose to lower your rates, keep this in mind. YOU will at some price point, price your self out of "the good client market".
And so ladies, "To thy own self be true". Stick to that and see what happens.
yawn!