Nobody gives a shit if you are offended. If you are offended by VIP’s comments, simply push the back button on your internet browser and move on. It’s a waste of time and energy. Originally Posted by MoneyManMattI thinck this sums it up right here!
- Still Looking
- 03-16-2013, 11:14 PM
- collegegirlforyou
- 03-16-2013, 11:47 PM
Very well said MsPrittiKitti 
Ginger is lucky to have a friend like you to vent to and share her feelings with.
I know i was the main "Cruel" individual that responded to Gingers post, and i can accept that. I've read all of the posts and I can see how some providers could have be inadvertently offended by VIPs retirement post. I can also take time and understand that a provider who is retiring is retiring for a reason. If she feels that she has "whored herself out for a buck" then it is certainly a great step for that person to get out of what is making them unhappy. I'm not going to blame my ugly behavior on someone else's opinion.
Everyone has a reason for being in the hobby, doesn't matter whether it's a client or a provider. I have had a couple of clients tell me that they feel bad after every time they see a provider and I always give them the same advice...If it makes you a better person, do it. Fulfilling desires can be beneficial and therapeutic for some but not all. If it makes you a person you do not like then stop and change course. I enjoy what I do, and I enjoy the experiences that the hobby allots me both developmentally as a person and financially to provide for my son and pay for things that I typically could not afford. I take steps to make sure I protect myself from being jaded and soured. (I.E. paying attention to clients comments on the board of what they think of providers, listening to other providers, and screening) I do not believe i'm "whoring myself out for a buck" but I'm sure others do, and i'm sure it's hard to get past that. If I ever get there, I'll step aside and follow another path.
There are a good amount of completely rude, tasteless, and downright mean clients. I know some of the clients just look at it as if we are providers so we get paid to not care how we are talked about or treated and that's fine too. It's their choice to have that point of view and it's up to a provider if they want to indulge that personality...if a provider sees too many of those individuals it begins to wear on them.
Everyone has things in their past that is absolutely awful and not understandable by others who haven't had to experience the pain of such events. Some worse then others, but you either have to look at them as triumphs or excuses. I look at mine as triumphs and no, I will never tell anyone what mine are because I don't need to. I feel no need to justify what I do or why I do it because at least I'm able to make my own choices, live my own life, and enjoy the moments that make me smile.
VIP made a post that reflected how she felt about where she's at in her life and I'm happy she'll be able to move on to something that fulfills her more then what she's experiencing now. She deserves to be happy as does everyone on this board. She didn't single anyone out or downright declare that everyone in the hobby is a complete A Hole. She has met a lot of people she enjoys seeing which is why she will still want to have regulars in her life. I would have never posted on this thread had it not been so maliciously aimed to cut down one single person based off of how her representation of where she's at in the hobby made someone feel.
We all have haters and we all have friends and WKs. I'm sure a lot of the clients on the board don't always like what they do for a living, even if it makes them happy overall. Are you going to give all the money back when you quit? If you don't like what choice you've made then change it, if you enjoy the experience stay in. Personally I enjoy the hobby although there are certainly times i meet with clients where I feel like throwing in the towel because they are the most disrespectful A Holes imaginable. It's annoying and daunting but fortunately there are plenty of great individuals out there that make up for the douche bags. There are even guys that feel it necessary to complain about font size or color of a post in a thread....seriously...complete ly unnecessary dig, but hey I probably offended Rover too, right? LOL
Anyways...I'm fortunate for the hobby and I appreciate my clients. I have things in my past that are less fortunate but i know others have it a lot worse so i'll never let that get me down. If anyone makes you feel bad it's best to make yourself happy rather then trying to seek happiness by blasting others. That's why school yard bullies pick on other kids, and making excuses never helps. People always ask me why I almost never post in the CoEd and I finally have a good reason. Too much darn drama about nothing. LOL. Enjoy what you enjoy, have fun, be safe, have goals, and never let anyone else's position affect how you approach the world. Feeling bad doesn't mean you need to be a bully or a jerk. If you have something that you're unhappy with figure out what you need to fix it and don't worry about how others think. I hope Ginger the best in her endeavors, and I hope she realizes that there will always be someone to tear down for the way you perceive them to be...it doesn't fix you, it doesn't make you feel better, and it's just one more chain that will be holding you down.
(hopefully this font size and color is tasteful...wouldn't want to offend anyone's aesthetic sensitivities)
I will quietly and politely retire from this thread. Good night!!
Ginger is lucky to have a friend like you to vent to and share her feelings with. I know i was the main "Cruel" individual that responded to Gingers post, and i can accept that. I've read all of the posts and I can see how some providers could have be inadvertently offended by VIPs retirement post. I can also take time and understand that a provider who is retiring is retiring for a reason. If she feels that she has "whored herself out for a buck" then it is certainly a great step for that person to get out of what is making them unhappy. I'm not going to blame my ugly behavior on someone else's opinion.
Everyone has a reason for being in the hobby, doesn't matter whether it's a client or a provider. I have had a couple of clients tell me that they feel bad after every time they see a provider and I always give them the same advice...If it makes you a better person, do it. Fulfilling desires can be beneficial and therapeutic for some but not all. If it makes you a person you do not like then stop and change course. I enjoy what I do, and I enjoy the experiences that the hobby allots me both developmentally as a person and financially to provide for my son and pay for things that I typically could not afford. I take steps to make sure I protect myself from being jaded and soured. (I.E. paying attention to clients comments on the board of what they think of providers, listening to other providers, and screening) I do not believe i'm "whoring myself out for a buck" but I'm sure others do, and i'm sure it's hard to get past that. If I ever get there, I'll step aside and follow another path.
There are a good amount of completely rude, tasteless, and downright mean clients. I know some of the clients just look at it as if we are providers so we get paid to not care how we are talked about or treated and that's fine too. It's their choice to have that point of view and it's up to a provider if they want to indulge that personality...if a provider sees too many of those individuals it begins to wear on them.
Everyone has things in their past that is absolutely awful and not understandable by others who haven't had to experience the pain of such events. Some worse then others, but you either have to look at them as triumphs or excuses. I look at mine as triumphs and no, I will never tell anyone what mine are because I don't need to. I feel no need to justify what I do or why I do it because at least I'm able to make my own choices, live my own life, and enjoy the moments that make me smile.
VIP made a post that reflected how she felt about where she's at in her life and I'm happy she'll be able to move on to something that fulfills her more then what she's experiencing now. She deserves to be happy as does everyone on this board. She didn't single anyone out or downright declare that everyone in the hobby is a complete A Hole. She has met a lot of people she enjoys seeing which is why she will still want to have regulars in her life. I would have never posted on this thread had it not been so maliciously aimed to cut down one single person based off of how her representation of where she's at in the hobby made someone feel.
We all have haters and we all have friends and WKs. I'm sure a lot of the clients on the board don't always like what they do for a living, even if it makes them happy overall. Are you going to give all the money back when you quit? If you don't like what choice you've made then change it, if you enjoy the experience stay in. Personally I enjoy the hobby although there are certainly times i meet with clients where I feel like throwing in the towel because they are the most disrespectful A Holes imaginable. It's annoying and daunting but fortunately there are plenty of great individuals out there that make up for the douche bags. There are even guys that feel it necessary to complain about font size or color of a post in a thread....seriously...complete ly unnecessary dig, but hey I probably offended Rover too, right? LOL
Anyways...I'm fortunate for the hobby and I appreciate my clients. I have things in my past that are less fortunate but i know others have it a lot worse so i'll never let that get me down. If anyone makes you feel bad it's best to make yourself happy rather then trying to seek happiness by blasting others. That's why school yard bullies pick on other kids, and making excuses never helps. People always ask me why I almost never post in the CoEd and I finally have a good reason. Too much darn drama about nothing. LOL. Enjoy what you enjoy, have fun, be safe, have goals, and never let anyone else's position affect how you approach the world. Feeling bad doesn't mean you need to be a bully or a jerk. If you have something that you're unhappy with figure out what you need to fix it and don't worry about how others think. I hope Ginger the best in her endeavors, and I hope she realizes that there will always be someone to tear down for the way you perceive them to be...it doesn't fix you, it doesn't make you feel better, and it's just one more chain that will be holding you down.
(hopefully this font size and color is tasteful...wouldn't want to offend anyone's aesthetic sensitivities)
I will quietly and politely retire from this thread. Good night!!
- italia
- 03-16-2013, 11:50 PM
She is the one who wrote "I no longer have to whore myself out and sleep with strangers and lose respect and dignity to earn a dollar." Originally Posted by Rover14If this is how she feels about herself then this is how she feels about her "provider friends".. tisk tisk
- Ms. Milani
- 03-17-2013, 12:08 AM
I also want to apologize for my rude comment. I let my anger control me. I still do not like how Ginger posted a thread to start more drama and to bash someone. And yes I was hurt a little by Barbie's comment because I truly love what I do. But I assumed she had her reasons. The hobby is not always kind to providers. We go through a lot. And Ginger, I've never begged for anything. When times were hard I asked for advice and if anyone knew places hiring. I never asked for money (the White Queen was the one who set that up) and I have ALWAYS accepted responsibility for my mistakes. (Just wanted to clear that up). Even though I do not agree with this thread I admit that I should not have commented with what I said. I just could not understand why someone would be so mean and hurtful...especially to someone they've never met. I will now step away from the drama. VLB, I'm sorry the hobby has been hard on you. I wish you the best in your future.
My last bit of advice for everyone (including myself) "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all."
Very well said MsPrittiKitti
I know i was the main "Cruel" individual that responded to Gingers post, and i can accept that. I've read all of the posts and I can see how some providers could have be inadvertently offended by VIPs retirement post. I can also take time and understand that a provider who is retiring is retiring for a reason. If she feels that she has "whored herself out for a buck" then it is certainly a great step for that person to get out of what is making them unhappy. I'm not going to blame my ugly behavior on someone else's opinion.
Everyone has a reason for being in the hobby, doesn't matter whether it's a client or a provider. I have had a couple of clients tell me that they feel bad after every time they see a provider and I always give them the same advice...If it makes you a better person, do it. Fulfilling desires can be beneficial and therapeutic for some but not all. If it makes you a person you do not like then stop and change course. I enjoy what I do, and I enjoy the experiences that the hobby allots me both developmentally as a person and financially to provide for my son and pay for things that I typically could not afford. I take steps to make sure I protect myself from being jaded and soured. (I.E. paying attention to clients comments on the board of what they think of providers, listening to other providers, and screening) I do not believe i'm "whoring myself out for a buck" but I'm sure others do, and i'm sure it's hard to get past that. If I ever get there, I'll step aside and follow another path.
There are a good amount of completely rude, tasteless, and downright mean clients. I know some of the clients just look at it as if we are providers so we get paid to not care how we are talked about or treated and that's fine too. It's their choice to have that point of view and it's up to a provider if they want to indulge that personality...if a provider sees too many of those individuals it begins to wear on them.
Everyone has things in their past that is absolutely awful and not understandable by others who haven't had to experience the pain of such events. Some worse then others, but you either have to look at them as triumphs or excuses. I look at mine as triumphs and no, I will never tell anyone what mine are because I don't need to. I feel no need to justify what I do or why I do it because at least I'm able to make my own choices, live my own life, and enjoy the moments that make me smile.
VIP made a post that reflected how she felt about where she's at in her life and I'm happy she'll be able to move on to something that fulfills her more then what she's experiencing now. She deserves to be happy as does everyone on this board. She didn't single anyone out or downright declare that everyone in the hobby is a complete A Hole. She has met a lot of people she enjoys seeing which is why she will still want to have regulars in her life. I would have never posted on this thread had it not been so maliciously aimed to cut down one single person based off of how her representation of where she's at in the hobby made someone feel.
We all have haters and we all have friends and WKs. I'm sure a lot of the clients on the board don't always like what they do for a living, even if it makes them happy overall. Are you going to give all the money back when you quit? If you don't like what choice you've made then change it, if you enjoy the experience stay in. Personally I enjoy the hobby although there are certainly times i meet with clients where I feel like throwing in the towel because they are the most disrespectful A Holes imaginable. It's annoying and daunting but fortunately there are plenty of great individuals out there that make up for the douche bags. There are even guys that feel it necessary to complain about font size or color of a post in a thread....seriously...complete ly unnecessary dig, but hey I probably offended Rover too, right? LOL
Anyways...I'm fortunate for the hobby and I appreciate my clients. I have things in my past that are less fortunate but i know others have it a lot worse so i'll never let that get me down. If anyone makes you feel bad it's best to make yourself happy rather then trying to seek happiness by blasting others. That's why school yard bullies pick on other kids, and making excuses never helps. People always ask me why I almost never post in the CoEd and I finally have a good reason. Too much darn drama about nothing. LOL. Enjoy what you enjoy, have fun, be safe, have goals, and never let anyone else's position affect how you approach the world. Feeling bad doesn't mean you need to be a bully or a jerk. If you have something that you're unhappy with figure out what you need to fix it and don't worry about how others think. I hope Ginger the best in her endeavors, and I hope she realizes that there will always be someone to tear down for the way you perceive them to be...it doesn't fix you, it doesn't make you feel better, and it's just one more chain that will be holding you down.
(hopefully this font size and color is tasteful...wouldn't want to offend anyone's aesthetic sensitivities)
- gooose
- 03-17-2013, 01:32 AM
These kind of threads makes it so easy to separate the classy and classless.
- Guest101618
- 03-17-2013, 02:07 AM
These kind of threads makes it so easy to separate the classy and classless. Originally Posted by goooseInteresting idea, but unless you know the back story you are making assumptions that may not benefit you in the long run. Knowing why people react the way they do changes our perception.
- Guest101618
- 03-17-2013, 02:23 AM
Wow, I got under someones skin?
Sorry about the font dis, but I'm an old dog. That is the same as ALL CAPS to me which is yelling. I prefer to plumb meaning from written words, not from the assault of the appearance of the words. Yelling louder doesn't make anyone right. Only the strength of the words do that. And it is difficult for the words to have strength when the topic is not fully understood.
I've had my say here. If you didn't get my point, repeating it won't make any difference.
Sorry about the font dis, but I'm an old dog. That is the same as ALL CAPS to me which is yelling. I prefer to plumb meaning from written words, not from the assault of the appearance of the words. Yelling louder doesn't make anyone right. Only the strength of the words do that. And it is difficult for the words to have strength when the topic is not fully understood.
I've had my say here. If you didn't get my point, repeating it won't make any difference.
- ttmax
- 03-17-2013, 06:51 AM
after reading most of the feedbacks and comments from the providers ......this young ladies are very intelectual in their responces...with all my respects every time I visit a provider from now on....I need to realize that I am dealing with very smart individuals. I can pretty much pay thousands of dollars for the company of this beautiful ladies and it will not put a dent on my finances because hell I can affort it.......but some of you ladies have riches that I may never be able to attain.........you ladies....yes including Ginger...you ladies have a higher degree of an education.....and I can tell from you writings. I love smart women and thank you ladies .......especially to all of you that have kept me company........
- Messi78
- 03-17-2013, 11:13 AM
- Guest100314
- 03-17-2013, 11:35 AM
You do? So why aren't you doing it for free? Originally Posted by Mariam
You been registered since Dec 2011 & this is your first post? Wow
- Yoyoma
- 03-17-2013, 11:36 AM
My last bit of advice for everyone (including myself) "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all." Originally Posted by MalayaWERD!!!
Btw, let me get this straight ... this thread has nothing whatsoever to do with the Veteran's Land Board?
- Messi78
- 03-17-2013, 11:41 AM
You been registered since Dec 2011 & this is your first post? Wow Originally Posted by playIVkeepsYeah is it a crime? I don't live here like you do.
- Yoyoma
- 03-17-2013, 11:47 AM
Yeah is it a crime? I don't live here like you do. Originally Posted by MariamSweet baby balls of Jesus - - - the build up to St. Patties day has everybody in a tizzy. After reading this, you are all hereby ordered to head straight to Pat O'Briens and indulge in a mighty Hurricane ...
- darter
- 03-17-2013, 12:07 PM
WOW. Step away from the boards for a few days and look at the stuff that has come up.
Thank you MsPrittiKitti for putting it all into perspective.
When I read the thread about retiring, I was taken aback by what VIPLB wrote. Everything I had read that she wrote prior to that always seemed very classy and upbeat. In that thread she seemed jaded and very condescending and I was surprised that more people, especially providers, didn't take offense to it. Now in this thread I see that more did, but just didn't say anything. I suppose it was because they didn't want to feel the backlash or get involved in the drama.
I do feel for the ladies here that have to put up with jerks that want to haggle and/or harass them, but I would hope that they can learn to ignore the assholes and not let them get under their skin and turn into something they aren't. I also hope that the nicer guys far out weigh the jerks.
Ginger, I applaud you for speaking out for your friends that were hurt by what VIPLB said and VIPLB, I do sincerely hope that your civilian job brings you everything that you want in life.
Thank you MsPrittiKitti for putting it all into perspective.
When I read the thread about retiring, I was taken aback by what VIPLB wrote. Everything I had read that she wrote prior to that always seemed very classy and upbeat. In that thread she seemed jaded and very condescending and I was surprised that more people, especially providers, didn't take offense to it. Now in this thread I see that more did, but just didn't say anything. I suppose it was because they didn't want to feel the backlash or get involved in the drama.
I do feel for the ladies here that have to put up with jerks that want to haggle and/or harass them, but I would hope that they can learn to ignore the assholes and not let them get under their skin and turn into something they aren't. I also hope that the nicer guys far out weigh the jerks.
Ginger, I applaud you for speaking out for your friends that were hurt by what VIPLB said and VIPLB, I do sincerely hope that your civilian job brings you everything that you want in life.
- Mike6082
- 03-17-2013, 02:18 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight either as I have never met either of them. I can only comment on what I have read.
To me VLB has the right to post what SHE feels about the hobby, her retirement and HER feelings. I never took anything she said as trash talking towards anyone or any group. It was all about her own feelings.
Again, to me Gingers post was tacky, classless, uncalled for and just plain rude.
I don't believe either posts benefitted the board, hobbyist or providers and we all need to get back to what this board is all about.
Just my two cents.....feel free to keep the changenn
To me VLB has the right to post what SHE feels about the hobby, her retirement and HER feelings. I never took anything she said as trash talking towards anyone or any group. It was all about her own feelings.
Again, to me Gingers post was tacky, classless, uncalled for and just plain rude.
I don't believe either posts benefitted the board, hobbyist or providers and we all need to get back to what this board is all about.
Just my two cents.....feel free to keep the changenn