List of NOT Reference friendly providers..

Well, I take that as a vouch! LOL

Slave really does have it down pat. To me, I have a horrible memory of names, but she is always SOOO detailed, she knows their name, physical description to a t, even their size.. hehe If Slave vouches for you... I don't need to hear from the other ones..

Slave I appreciate you soooo much! As do many of the other ladies on here! Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

Tracy, Candi, Karla and Hollywood...

Thank you sooo much for the kind words!! I am glad that I have helped each of you in this way... I really do not want anyone to lose out on money because of me...

I also understand Hollywood's concern... and yes, to answer Woody's question... Gina is great at listening when we have concerns and she has indeed removed gentlemen from my list if their behavior changed and became disrespectful, rude or inappropriate in any way...

Your flattered slave,

Guinevere

I have actually contacted ladies from p411 regardless of their okays given to a gent and a few times they've actually told me they wouldn't see the client again even though they gave an okay. Some ladies give out the okay based on the fact the guy isn't a cop or they don't want to deal with fall out if they decline to give an okay. For me, I want to know a bit more than that he's legit. I want to know that there were no hygiene issues or creep factors.

And yes, Slave is an absolute breath of fresh air when giving a vouch!

I couldn't agree more with the OP. It is quite frustrating when ladies just ignore the request for a vouch. What really chaps my arse is when you see a lady you've pm'd is online and posting all over the place but has yet to respond, it's like, seriously. I completely understand that they may get hit with the little green monster but it just shows their lack of class to not take the high road and rise above it and give the vouch for the gentlemen. Originally Posted by Hollywood101

Thank you
And YES, lol THATS the part that irks my nerves! I understand not everyone gets on here alot, and or has other things going on in life, totally understandable. But when I politely send a reference reuqest, see that your online and posting away, well thats just plain bitchy!
(And since you all know Im big on Karma- Ladies who refuse reference requests, well that attitude very well Might be a reason why a past clients of yours is looking elsewhere, and not to see you again, IJS-KARMA)

We received an email from eccie last year before the new year stating they were going to implement some form of screening features similar to p411.... What ever happened with that?

Im reference friendly!!!
PM is preferred!!
I only check my phone if im expecting someone/something

Great thread here y'all. I don't come to the SA forums much but when I do it is normally pretty good information.

FYI, A gentleman CAN look at his vouches on P411 and see if the ladie's account is active or not.
I can also look to see who has checked on my P411 account. (I occasionally get a request for my P411 and look later and see that the provider never even checked.)

Some of the ladies that I visit have a way to skip the vouching problems: They recommend each other. After I have a session with some ladies, they know what I like and what I don't enjoy. They recommend others accordingly. All I do is contact one of the recommended ladies and say XXX said we should get together. Great marketing and it works well for me also. The ladies trust each other enough that this works well...

On another note, I need to find the time to get to SA and spend some time with some particular ladies that have posted in this thread; your posts are intelligent (in spite of the color of your text) and your showcases are enticing. Now, I just have to figure out how to make my 25 or so P411 vouches work to my benefit.

G

Gentlemen, I know what you mean about providers recommending others providers. I've asked providers their opinions on someone they maybe have done doubles with or have known for awhile. just like we're looking for ref's, sometimes it nice to hear about providers with great ref's too. Great example we're heard here from several providers (and hobbyists) is Slave as a provider and someone they can relay on about ref checks.

This is an issue I've had a few problems with myself. Since I'm still new to the hobby references are a big thing in my case and some times it feels like it's hard to set up an appointment because my references hadn't checked out. Not sure of the reason because I actually made it a point to text the providers before hand to ask for permission to use her as a reference. Maybe they didn't respond because they couldn't remember me since it was a couple weeks before my last visit, I'm not the most active hobbyist , or maybe I'm not doing something right.

Here's my issue. I have over 65 OKs on P411, where I am a lifetime member. My profile is explicit with age, height, weight, preferences etc. However, I have sent PMs on P411 to providers asking about availability and have been told they want more info. WTF else can I give - at least 10 of my OKs are within the last 90 day? In fact, I got this from one provider on P411 "Your age, past experiences with other providers, and your OKAYs mean squat too me." I'm like wow! Really are you serious?

My solution, move on! I belong to P411 to smooth things out, not to be hassled! Anyway, most times I want to see a girl it's last minute as I'm somewhat spontaneous and don't maintain a set schedule.

I read Hollywood's post and yes I can see a guy with only a few OKs on P411 maybe needing to be checked out. But with over 65 OKs and some from the most well known ladies in the US, I'm like WTF?

We received an email from eccie last year before the new year stating they were going to implement some form of screening features similar to p411.... What ever happened with that? Originally Posted by gfx

My guess is Gina said she'd pull her support, which is significant!

I travel every week and find it very very difficult to keep references on gents. I have a horrible scatter brain and usually do not remember names, handles, or numbers. I do however remember everyones faces and if they can give me a quick call and say "Hey Taylor I saw you here for this amount of time and talked about blah and blah", also with a lil description with what they look like and who they want to me to give a references to, works every time!!

I find it very hard to give a reference for some ladies when all they say is "Hey this is a guys number can I get a reference?"

Most chances are no, I'm sorry I need to know where I saw the guy how long ago it was and something to help spark a memory of him.

I do however will remember gents I see on a regular basis over a long period of time or if they are on p411, because I will always after a session write a note of them on the notes page by their name so I can easily remember who they are.

I know this may not be the case for everyone, but I do travel every week and it does get hectic and very difficult to keep information on every person I see in every city. I Try ladies, not everyones the same in there thinking or methods what works for some people does not always work for the next.

Happy Hobbying.
Taylor xo Originally Posted by Taylor xo

So…

I am getting WORRIED about TAYLOR XO… Has anyone been able to REACH HER? After her posting I have tried SEVERAL TIMES in the last week to CALL HER and so have HER MEN but alas… to no avail…

I am hoping that she is ok… and she may simply be on vacation... but if anyone knows of a better way to reach her for a reference... then please let me know… Otherwise, I am concerned that our beautiful little blonde is not doing well…

I have created a thread that I hope might make it EASIER for the ladies to sort of CHECK IN and POST when we are sick, on vacation etc… so, hopefully this will help all of the providers but ESPECIALLY those of us who are REFERENCE FRIENDLY…

Your concerned slave,

Guinevere

"My Dog ate my Bustier thread…"

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1054616655