The glory days of the HDH are over.

I think we may need another chart.I do much better with pictures

Would one of you smart college educated HDH women explain all of that to me?
I was referring to Laurentius' post. Originally Posted by Ansley

Whatever may happen with the economy reality is if you can keep your lifestyle simple your clients happy, and your savings account full you will always have more freedom, and options in this life no matter what you may choose to do for a living. Originally Posted by Becky

Beautiful wisdom!

If we could teach kids this simple thing before they left high school, they would have far happier lives.

Thank you, it was my mom who taight me that.Well maybe not the... Keep your clients happy part.

Beautiful wisdom!

If we could teach kids this simple thing before they left high school, they would have far happier lives. Originally Posted by Laurentius

Charles, you can find a lot of information on SBs on the thread here, http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=9404

The website that I have used and liked the best was seekingarrangement.com. As for where you can find the SB, it is pretty much where you are comfortable. Shyster John has been my on line mentor in this area, but where he and I have found women tends to be different. He met a girl at a pizza parlor, and I wouldn't have the guts to try it at a place like that.

My favorite places to meet SBs have been Hooters type restaurants and strip clubs. I usually just ask if the woman has ever hear the term sugar baby and if so, if they have a website profile. About half the women I have asked do.

As far as being married and hobbying out of town, that can be ideal. If you live in Texas, there are a wealth of women available and you could take them with you when you travel. The other thing to consider is to find one on the website and meet them there. If you find a SB, you like here, you could also come back a day early or leave a day late and spend the day with your SB.

Be warned though. It takes a lot longer to find a good SB than a good provider. You have to kiss a lot of frogs before you meet your princess.

As someone with a marketing background, no, I don't think anyone would say "I'd like to use VIP but honestly, I realize I'm not really worth it". I guess I was just trying to acknowledge the ladies who use the terms and can actually demonstrate “elite” qualities. I am quite certain most men can decipher who is and who isn't VIP when it's used throughout a website (I actually wasn't referring to Eros). You see ladies charging half hour rates (not judging anyone) calling themselves VIP on their sites. So I guess I was simply stating the obvious here, and perhaps I didn’t need to, if it is common knowledge, but I did. Anyway, if for some reason my post was misinterpreted, I do apologize. I just think the terms are overused, period and some people just should not be using them.

Warm regards. Originally Posted by GiamarieLynn

I totally agree with you. I do find myself getting frustrated with claims that of eliteness or exclusivity when their rate structure or the frequency of their reviews clearly indicates something much different. However, I'm sure the discerning client can tell immediately who's real and who isn't.

Not aimed at anyone in specific but if you really were an elite model, I'd see you walking the runway not on your knees or on your back.... Originally Posted by atlcomedy

I have known professional runaway models and have had honor to meet many exceptional ladies.

Here is a puzzle, while the "elite models" were most unhappy and insecure women I have ever met, majority of professional companions i know have very high self esteem and fairly happy well adjusted people.

Lina

No worries & my comment was kinda tongue in cheek, more aimed at all of the advertisements with laides billing themselves as "elite models" or "I've appeared in many magazines as a print model" etc.

My thought was more along the lines of most guys thinking, "So if you really are all that, why are you offering yourself for $250/hour?"

again the "you" being a generic, not specific term Originally Posted by atlcomedy

That's a good question ATL..but it's a very common occurrence in London. I have recognized (even with blurring) several runway/catwalk models advertzing as escorts there. Most are from other Eropean countries but they congregate in London. One can only assume that they don't enjoy their day job nearly as much?? Btw..the rates are not overly high either...

C

...or choice between beauty in various forms. The trouble is that those possessing the ticket price sufficient to exercise that choice are unlikely to get jobs as Clark Gable lookalikes. The transaction distorts the judgement. Originally Posted by Clerkenwell

Of course! Peoples expectations definitely change with price and its not just limited to service. Agree.

I'm hurt you doubted me. Originally Posted by pjorourke

I was worried for a quick minute. You have proven without doubt that your verbal libido reigns supreme!

xx

Since I've never engaged an HDH, I'm only guessing, but in each one of these categories, I'm assuming the BCD time is still around 1 hr (maybe a bit more). So, on the 3 hour date, you spend 2 hours having drinks and dinner and 1 hr, more or less, BCD. Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Keyword is "Assuming" and yes it apparently has made an ass out of you, since you have not seen a HDH by your own statement, why are you posting so much on the subject that you know so little about, you are obliviously lost on several accounts. Suggestion Charles..but we know that you never take suggestions.....maybe see a HDH before making statements that you have no idea on.

Keyword is "Assuming" and yes it apparently has made an ass out of you, since you have not seen a HDH by your own statement, why are you posting so much on the subject that you know so little about, you are obliviously lost on several accounts. Suggestion Charles..but we know that you never take suggestions.....maybe see a HDH before making statements that you have no idea on. Originally Posted by Woody of TX

Kinda odd, isn't it?

Since Charles is always complaining about his 20% satisfaction rate but never sees a HDH, I've constructively suggested he give it a try....

Then again hundreds of thousands of Cowboys fans that have never played a down of football think they could do a better job than Wade Phillips....ok bad example

@ L


Since I've never engaged an HDH, I'm only guessing, but in each one of these categories, I'm assuming the BCD time is still around 1 hr (maybe a bit more). So, on the 3 hour date, you spend 2 hours having drinks and dinner and 1 hr, more or less, BCD.

. Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Bad guess.

Keyword is "Assuming" and yes it apparently has made an ass out of you, since you have not seen a HDH by your own statement, why are you posting so much on the subject that you know so little about, you are obliviously lost on several accounts. Suggestion Charles..but we know that you never take suggestions.....maybe see a HDH before making statements that you have no idea on. Originally Posted by Woody of TX

What, Woody, and deprive you of the opportunity to write a scathing post about me.

Nah, I enjoy baiting you too much, and you fall for it every time. It's gotten so I can count on you, Woody. You're such a slam-dunk.

Since Charles is always complaining about his 20% satisfaction rate but never sees a HDH, I've constructively suggested he give it a try.... Originally Posted by atlcomedy

First of all, I'm not always complaining. Stopped doing it several weeks ago, and you won't find me doing it again.

Second, however well-intentioned a suggestion it was, alt, I've decided not to follow through. I just can't bring myself to believe that the level of service is that much better, nor can I afford to take the chance even once for a number of reasons.

Third, although several of you made similar suggestions (RK, Alt & PJ), the ladies I explored that I considered to be HDHs that I would like to see had constructed rules for first timers that prevented us from meeting. And I'v sure that I'm on the DNS list for some that I might have been able to see at one point or another.

So, although you believe I ignored your suggestions, I absolutely did not. I spend lots of time mulling it over, and even calculating who I could meet and how I would accomplish it. I have even developed an HDH to do list. But, alas, none are available.

I have concluded it is not possible for me to obtain the HDH experience.

I can't believe that no one noticed that the OP's vast experience with cheerleaders and models sound an awful lot like the former boy in the basement. Studster, is that you?

I can't believe that no one noticed that the OP's vast experience with cheerleaders and models sound an awful lot like the former boy in the basement. Studster, is that you? Originally Posted by Sydneyb

Institutional memory is a beautiful, BEAUTIFUL thing! Perhaps he threw us all off by not telling us the town....