LordBeaverbrook: Just puffed up their chests and yelled, "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" or "nuke them until the sand glows"
Actually, if you bothered reading the progress of the argument on this thread, you would not have come to that conclusion. We have repeatedly argued that the conditions in place before they came to this agreement were better than the ones that are in place now. We consistently argued that no agreement was better than this agreement. Your opinion here just proves that you are the very thing that you are accusing the side of the argument, that actually knows what it's arguing about, of being.
LordBeaverbrook: and let them keep enriching, building and testing their nukes.....just like W did.
Iran tested nuclear weapons? When did that happen? Please locate an article that verifies that Iran detonated a nuclear weapon. Again, if you followed actual information surrounding Iran, the previous president, who happens to be last real president we had, aimed for applying more sanctions against Iran and moved to make it hard to obtain materials and resources it needed to do the very thing that you imply they have already done. Hussein O'shitstain, on the other hand, settled for an agreement that strengthens Iran relative to us. That is a worse alternative than simply continuing with the sanctions until Iran met more realistic requirements.
If you were talking about North Korea, you can trace the history of that to the 1990s, where similar foolishness was exercised in hopes that the other side will comply.
LordBeaverbrook: You should also notice that when the RWWs complain about the ayatollah promoting, "Death to America", they don't mention their colleagues advocating for bombing the ME back to the Stone Age and other cretinous threats. Pure hypocrisy.
You mistake a legitimate argument as being something else. Those, the post on this message board, are not giving orders to the Pentagon, or the U.S. government, regarding what to do with Iran. However, when Iran's "Supreme Leader" chants "Death to America", he is representing a view that is driving Iran's movers and shakers. Many that don't understand how things are done in the Middle East, fail to grasp the fact that the ayatollah is influential within the real entity driving Iran. They are the movers and shakers that drive Iran's policy.
So yes, when their supreme leader chants "Death to America", you get an insight on who we are actually dealing with. The destruction of the United States, along with the rest of Western civilization, paves the way for them to spread their version of Islam throughout the world. The removal of the United States, and the West, is crucial to accomplish their manifest destiny.
This isn't hypocrisy, but basing an argument on reality. Either we neutralize them [radical Islamic elements that want to spread Islam globally], or they "erase" our culture and way of doing things, as radical Islamists have been doing for centuries in regards to non-Islamic cultures. Keep in mind that northern Africa, Syria, and other areas that were a part of the Roman Empire were heavily Christian prior to the radical Islamic invasions. Had it not been for the Reconquista, Spain and Portugal would've been Islamic kingdoms. They have not given up on pushing that to the rest the world.
LordBeaverbrook: They never offer anything useful, just pablum and war.
I could say with confidence that the side of the argument that does not offer anything useful is your side of the argument, the side of the argument that I have been arguing against for over 12 years. It's like you people operate from the same playbook, argue mostly from emotion and feeling without regards to the facts, while mistaking those feelings and emotions as being "fact". That normally results in my side of the argument fact checking your side of the argument. My side of the argument, the side of the argument that you are attacking, is the only side that is offering a realistic argument on the debate topic.
Your side of the argument has consistently offered an opinion that generally benefits our adversaries and enemies. Part of the reason to that is that you people have a colossal lack of understanding of how the real world works geopolitically, geo-strategically, and geo-economically. On the latter, you people have a colossal lack of understanding on the macro and micro levels, and how policy impacts both.
The description "low information voter" accurately describes the side of the argument that I have been dismantling all this time.
LordBeaverbrook: Now you are catching on to the MO.
The person that you were replying to, like the rest of the people on your side of the argument, did what I've observed you guys doing over the past 12 years have done, project your own traits onto us. If there was an Olympic sport on who could provide useless statements, not having anything to do with the argument or with reality, you people would be taking home the Olympic gold. You people's mode of operation is to run off with your mouths spewing nonsense based on your emotions and feelings, then turn around and exercise piss poor judgment by consistently arguing against the side of the argument that obviously knows what it is talking about compared to you guys not knowing they're talking about.
LordBeaverbrook: It is useless discussing/arguing with them
Then why are you here saying something that you know will get you a response, thus an argument? I highly disagree with the reason that you provided in your post. More on that later. The mere fact that you are on here, attacking others, proves your own wording false. If it was "useless" discussing/arguing with my side of the argument, you wouldn't have left a comment on this thread. You would have matched your actions to your statements. You didn't.
LordBeaverbrook: as they just spout memes, fantasies, beliefs based on no facts and insults.
said without advancing a logical, reasoned, argument supporting that opinion. You just described your recent post, as well is that of the others that I've argued with, to the "T". When it comes to delivering the facts, the side of the argument that you are attacking happens to be the side that consistently delivers the goods. All you guys do is spew rubbish and drivel based on your emotions and feelings, then attempt to argue against the facts simply because your emotions and feelings don't agree with the facts and your egos drive you on.
You people consistently dismiss actual facts as "opinions", while acting like your emotions and feelings are "fact".
LordBeaverbrook: I used to engage and then discovered the only real fun was to provoke them into a frenzy.
How about owning up to the fact that you have had your ass handed to you, and/or you were beaten in your own game, and you were left with no choice but to "sit down, shut up, or do something else"?
I've argued with enough of you guys to categorize you guys into different psychological profiles. The more of your reactions that I see, the more I could build onto those psychological profiles. You're not really having fun doing this. Your ego lets you get away with that assumption, because accepting reality would rub your ego the wrong way. It's much easier for you to twist this as if you are having some sort of victory than it is for your ego to accept the fact that you simply had your azz shoved down your throat.
I, on the other hand, take sadistic pleasure in dismantling you people's opinions in a topic that you guys are clearly ignorant on. Your reactions make me laugh even when I'm not on this message board. It also gives me a bigger insight on the kind of "luck" that you guys have in the real world. The same piss poor judgment that would drive somebody to argue against someone else that's consistently destroying them in debate is related to the piss poor judgment that these people exercise outside of ECCIE and in their normal lives.
LordBeaverbrook: When that got boring I turned that energy and attention back to pussy...a much more satisfying endeavor.
On numerous occasions, I provided my attention to pussy in the same day that I jumped on this message board, or another one, to dismantle the opinions of people who have absolutely no clue about what they are talking about, then move on to other activities. What really "got boring" to you is having others beat you at your own game, or consistently hand you your azz.
LordBeaverbrook: The hos on the board are actually far more informed and better conversationalists than the RWW mongers on here
First, you just demonstrated your lack of ability to understand things beyond what you are seeing. Most providers, during a session, would not try to educate someone that is obviously clueless on a political topic when they are engaged in what they do best. Yes, they're going to de-escalate and try to agree with you in some way, or come to a compromise, shift the conversation focus, and focus on what you are there to see them for. The other hobbyists on this message board have no requirement to do that to your side of the argument, nor are they impacted their ability to continue to be hobbyists. This gives us the ability to dismantle your arguments at will.
Second, I highly doubt that you would hold onto this opinion if you came across a provider that argued on our side of the argument. I have seen the posts of two different providers that jumped on this message board to argue against your side of the argument. Perhaps you could straighten the people out, who attacked them and who are on the same side of the argument as you, and inform them that the providers that destroyed you people's arguments are far more informed and better conversationalists.
You have not demonstrated, in your posts, that you don't have the analytical acumen to pass judgment on who is informed and who isn't. You're not even informed on the totality of the argument on this thread. Otherwise, you would not have opened it with the wrong conclusion about what my side of the argument would say or argue.
LordBeaverbrook: (if they really are mongers or use this forum because their dicks went limp)
Mine still goes stiff on its own. Never needed medication to make that happen either. Heck, living up to my username makes it go stiff. I've been seeing/hobbying with the same provider since late 2014. Don't let my lack of recent reviews lead you to another false conclusion.
LordBeaverbrook: and they have the good sense not to involve themselves here either.
Hate to burst your bubble, but your side of the argument is wrong. You people are getting your asses handed to you on this thread. We're not the ones that should decide to do something else. We are here to stay, and to continue to fact check your arguments and show you guys that you guys have absolutely no clue about what you guys are talking about. You need to convince the others on your side of the argument to do what you imply we should do. Based on what I have seen, on what you guys have advanced, you people need to do more research on the topics that we are arguing about instead of wasting your time on these threads proving foreign criticism about our education system to be "warranted".
