Chats, IM'S and TEXTS - Shouldn't this be billed?

Let’s keep in mind, that my initial purpose of this thread was NOT to cause havoc.
I have just a few ideas of why it did ;-).
My initial intent was to voice an opinion and get feedback (damn…I got an asswhupen)!
But most importantly, to make the hobbyist aware, that some providers who are well sought out (and deservingly so)….are burdened by the number of texts and phone calls they get everyday. Would they say this to their client? NOOOO. Because they are afraid of losing them. So, sometimes you guys are in control more than you think. And some of these girls are too sweet to say no. In the end….they GIVE TOO MUCH….to everyone. It’s all good and fine for those of us who can hold our own….but think twice before texting. K?

DFK
Ok, Rockford…..I’m busted (please read your PM’s).
Let the jury decide. GWEN has no access, but needs to book appointments. I’m offering my admin skills to her and she is a good friend. Nuf said.

PMdelites
1. Downtime – I have NO downtime….because I balance PLAY TIME and Real Life. Believe me….I am not lacking in PLAY TIME.
2. I AM Flexible and Adaptable – but NOT self-destructive! I think before I jump.
3. How many providers have I witnessed this with? 2 for sure….and 3 maybe.
a. Also, I will up my last stated assumption of 6 to 7 texts per day.
i. Because one provider took at least 7 texts and/or phone calls just in the hour we were at lunch!
4. Just FYI – I am not “afraid” of GRIEF – I am sooooooo NOT fragile.
5. You say….”just delete or ignore the texts/calls from guys you don’t know"
a. Well shit….how does this fall into the “new prospective client” category? (YOU GUYS MAKE UP YOUR MIND)!
i. And how we should practice good “salesmanship to get new business”, if we use this practice? HA! GOTCHA !!

BIG EDDIE
· The post was neutral my friend. It states “I see Ginger’s point”, not I AGREE with Ginger’s point…..and it ends with “I always want to make a client happy”.

RANDY4CANDY
· Wake up DUDE! – was this too in-depth for your brain to comprehend?

TONY
· Thanks man….for “taking the bite”


NOTE: If Michael Jackson had been told to cater to everyone that sent fan mail. There would not have been enough time in the day! Sound familiar?
NOTE #2 – I was given some insight…that this thread probably should have been directed to the provider population….and not the client population.
NOTE #3 – I realize that ECCIE is now Craigs Lists' sniffing ground as well…..and, uh hem….nuf said. So there blows my first fit of aggravation.

Hey….I truly appreciate all of your responses.
Whether this subject dies or lives on….I dunno.
I made my point.

Cheers…Hugs….and kisses!!!
GingerB

Did you really just compare your fanbase to Michael Jackson's? Wow. Do you also have to fend off the paparazzi when you are at CVS?

Let’s keep in mind, that my initial purpose of this thread was NOT to cause havoc.


RANDY4CANDY
· Wake up DUDE! – was this too in-depth for your brain to comprehend?
Originally Posted by GingerB

On the first part: How'd that work out?

On the second part: One person's "depth" is another's comic relief.

Broes
Is that all you got out of that last post? Damn dude....you must be as dense as the sports figure in your avatar. Cummon....show some intellect!

One last word...
LISA.LISA - girl, I didn't give it up for you earlier. You can throw down with me anytime. Thanks for giving your complete unbiased and understanding opinion.

DENTONSEEK
you should look at.....uh, oh....nevermind....not worth my time

kisses!
GingerB

Geez Louise...will this thread ever die?

In the immortal words of Seargent Hulka, from Stripes..."Lighten up, Francis!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrllCZw8jiM

MJ undoubtedly had people respond to emails on his behalf. Celebrities generally do.

Ironically, many providers also have people who answer their emails and texts. They're called "pimps".

insight with this gal me thinks

IF you don't want the guys to text you - it's simple: Don't answer their texts & eventually they will stop & move on to someone who isn't such a stick in the mud.

On the flipside: I love sending & receiving naughty pixxX all day long...it keeps things spiced up!
...and gets me pretty RILED UP too (the poor fella that I decied to 'take it out on' will thank gawd for those naughty texts I send/receive all day!) Wink!!

XOXO
Italiana PRincess Originally Posted by ItalianaPrincess

In my opinion, a little bit of sexting is flirting when it comes to this profession. I won''t purchase wine from a vineyard without a sample and I see this as a harmless sample of, at the very least, the Provider's imagination and/or libido. After that excessive sexting, chatting...it's another problem entirely. Perhaps some men see sexting as an outlet or a cheap thrill. I don't give free legal advise and wouldn't ask my friend (a home design specialist) to draw up free plans because its rude and disrespectful. No difference here..but don;t get huffy if someone asks for a preview.

GingerB, I still don't get why you feel so hard done by. Maybe it's just that your context and/or your expectations are unrealistic.

For example, MOST people here have to juggle play time with careers and families. You're no different than most of the rest of us in that regard.

SEVEN texts? Are you serious? On a SLOW day I receive about 50 texts and around 150 emails. The amount of email is starting to come down as the amount of texts increases. People are shifting to short, real-time messages. If I didn't prioritize and manage the inflow of data, I'd drown in it and get nothing done.

I really think you should reset your expectations and read over this thread really carefully. There's some good advice. Instead of deflecting it all and trying to 'win' the argument, you might want to consider adopting some of the suggestions.

Lust - if you read my posts more closely, you will have seen I revised it...to say 7 texts per hour...I said 7 text in one hour.

Broes
Is that all you got out of that last post? Damn dude....you must be as dense as the sports figure in your avatar. Cummon....show some intellect! Originally Posted by GingerB

Yes. That is the only thing that I got out of your last post. Each one is getting increasingly more redundant, so getting a chuckle out of you invoking Michael Jackson was the only new thing you gave me.

I just think that it's odd that you dont have time to text, but you do have time to bang out several novel length posts on this thread. I'm with the other guys. I'm leaving this thread alone so it will fade away....

for $75 including greek and bbbjnqns will probably get the texts, emails and phone calls cumming with serius qualified potential customers.

I feel confused about the girls that do this, and spend hours texting or chatting back and forth to clients having sex talk.
I guess they think it is ok with them, and to each their own. Originally Posted by GingerB

OK, I admit my first thought was, "who are the girls that do this?" Please list them, and their phone numbers... I mean, inquiring minds want to know, ya know?

I also think the OP is under-rating the power of conversation as a selling tool, and optimistic in her accounting methods.

Having said that, I am coming down on her side of this rowdy thread.
A few years ago a provider friend of mine from another state came to visit, and decided to work while she was here. We spent 10 days pretty much together, other than her sessions of course, and it was a real eye opener to see the other side of things that closely.

First of all, it was tough to have a conversation for a few hours after she posted an ad (she was a CL girl) because her phone was constantly ringing, and it surprised me how few actual bookings came from all those calls. It had nothing to do with her services, which were practically unlimited. Her pics were hot, and accurate, and her prices were in the ad. It was just pretty obvious that some guys enjoy the phone version of window shopping, and a few of them enjoyed making appointments with obviously no intention of keeping them.

There were some that would call 4 - 5 - 6 times over the course of a week, always with a new question, and try to turn the inquiry into a conversation / phone sex. My friend would answer the question, most often in a way that logically should result in an appointment ("yes, I do that, and no, it's not extra. When would you like to make an appointment?"). The number of guys who told her they wanted an appointment, but would need to call back later to schedule, was truly embarrassing. The number who did call back, but instead of wanting to meet, had another question, was pitiful.

By the way, her phone had a feature that would tell her how many times a number had appeared in caller ID, so she knew before she answered if it was a new number, or one that had called 5 times already.

I was only hearing one side of the conversations, but she said that sometimes it's pretty obvious that the guy has his dick in his hand, as he asks her to describe her BBBJ technique, or how she likes to be licked.

Her attitude, and it seemed reasonable to me (still does), was that getting them off on the phone was a sure way to guarantee that they would NOT be making or keeping an appointment.

I would say that her ratio of calls to completed appointments, as a new girl in town with no regulars, was 15-20 to 1, and sometimes the calls would come back to back, as in 3-4 calls in a 10 min period. About 1 in 5 appointments was a NCNS.

If she had "entertained" every call that was looking for a conversation, she would have had to let about a fourth of the calls go to voice-mail, and the two of us would have never had a decent conversation. She told me that the number of completed appointments she normally got from voice-mails was WAY worse than actual calls, and since she had no regulars in Dallas, voice-mail was going to be all but worthless for income. (Most guys don't leave a message, and don't call back. Those that leave a message more than likely don't answer when she calls back, if it's more than a few minutes later.)

That would suggest that if the goal is more sessions, the trick is in answering every call possible, and not tie up the phone with "tire kickers".
It also explains why the lower class girls (who don't seem to care about getting repeat customers) will answer their phone(s) during a session.

The dynamic may be a little different than CL girls, for an established provider on P-411, but my guess is, not enough to change the result. My friend already had provider status on ASPD in her home state, and posted an ad in the Dallas section, but according to her, ASPD didn't change the numbers much, and guys were guys, regardless of the website they surfed.

oh yes....petite AM.....aahhh...yeah, that's good.
$75 for all of that? What a bargain! Perhaps you can get the needle dripping with heroin as a bonus?....the no teeth...body odor....bad hygiene, and zero class cum with no extra charge! Go for it buddy! We all like clearance sales !!

It's threads like this that reinforce my decision to go to AMPs exclusively.