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I am going to throw out a controversial statement right now, if you are a provider and you have an SO that knows what you are doing and helps you out in anyway ie drives you to clients etc, then it's more likely than not that you would be classified as pimped.
What is a pimp?" a pimp (male) or madam (female) helps in the arrangement of a sex act with a customer"

Some of the women here will never admit that they are pimped and would sing to the high heavens that they won't allow a man to pimp them, well some were pimped by women and others are in denial.
Face it, a good pimp or madam is in the background and you never hear or see them.
Chances are high that most of the women on this site are in some sort of arrangement or another and will never admit that they have a pimp.

It is when the pimp/boyfriend/daddy/controlling female etc starts interfering with business, is when people start to ask questions. Originally Posted by macbeth1000

I'm not ceratoin that I'm in agreement with your definition of being pimped. Some SC dancers have business arrangements OTC and their husband/boyfriend knows about it and drives them to their appointments. I'd like to believe that it's to make sure the lady is safe and protected.

When I hear "Pimped" it's more of a predatory (perhaps parasitic) relationship when the man compels/forces the woman to make "dates" and is willing to compel her to do so by whatever means are necessary, including those alluded to in this thread. To me "pimped" refers to more of a coercive relationship. I've been with couples that swing and the husband's pleasure is somewhat derived from the pleasure his wife is experiencing and vice-versa when it's the husband having sex with another woman. All consensual..all parties focues on one another having a good time..but all agree at what's going on. The scenario regarding AS does not sound consensual.

Look up the definition of pimp and to inform you, it is evident that the AS girl is in a consensual arrangement. She not only is in a consensual arrangement but benefits from it and sets it up. If you were there, you would come away with the same conclusion.

Look up the definition of pimped and to inform you, it is evident that the AS girl is in a consensual arrangement. She not only is in a consensual arrangement but benefits from it and sets it up. If you were there, you would come away with the same conclusion. Originally Posted by macbeth1000

My personal definition of pimp is much broader. It would include anyone who derives a financial gain from the individual providing sex

As an example if the individual lives with a BF and the BF knows she sells herself for money. And they use that money together to pay rent, bills, etc. Basically he's pimping her.

Pimps and Madams have been around since just after chicks started selling pussy.

I don't get why these pimp threads keep coming up. I'll wager that if it actually came out which girls had pimps, a lot of mofos would be throwing themselves out a fucking window.

It's really not that serious. Before there was eccie, studios, and all the "carpet hoein'", Mofos went straight to HH, 121, and other tracks/strolls/blades/corners and bought a fuck ton of pussy from black, white, Hispanic, and Asian chicks that you KNEW had a pimp. The chicks with pimps would let a girl without one work.

So, I know it's all fuckin glitzy and shit now, but remember, it's all the same shit. I don't ask a chick if she's got a pimp. I could care less as long as the shit isn't in my face.

The ONLY reason a dude would care about a pimp he's never seen is because he wants to "wife up" the provider that he's PAYING to see. That's it. Period.

If you're visiting a lady to enjoy her company and the service she provides for the time you've paid for, you could give a fuck less what happens in her life when you leave. You don't care if your plumber, dry cleaner, landscaper, or detail shop guy has a pimp. So why would you care if one of these providers has one UNLESS you're hoping for more than what the fuck you're paying for.

My personal definition of pimp is much broader. It would include anyone who derives a financial gain from the individual providing sex

As an example if the individual lives with a BF and the BF knows she sells herself for money. And they use that money together to pay rent, bills, etc. Basically he's pimping her. Originally Posted by Jarvis

That may not be so far fetched. You have a point there, a valid one. I was thinking the SO is more of a cuckold because that's exactly what a cuckold is.
Now now none of you need to get your panties in a bunch, I haven't said anything that isn't out there, atleast I didn't say the world was flat.

Here is a quick modern definition "Since the 1990s, the term has also been widely used to refer to a sexual fetish in which the fetishist is stimulated by their committed partner choosing to have sex with someone else"

Don't get me wrong, I never said there was anything wrong. A pimp could not be a cuckold because he isn't committed to the pimped person or who knows.

It is what it is, LIFE. This has been an interesting thread and the AS girl probably ran away and other people are still visiting her because of her puffy nipples.

Damn I love boobs

The ONLY reason a dude would care about a pimp he's never seen is because he wants to "wife up" the provider that he's PAYING to see. That's it. Period.

If you're visiting a lady to enjoy her company and the service she provides for the time you've paid for, you could give a fuck less what happens in her life when you leave. You don't care if your plumber, dry cleaner, landscaper, or detail shop guy has a pimp. So why would you care if one of these providers has one UNLESS you're hoping for more than what the fuck you're paying for. Originally Posted by str8.2.bbbj

I disagree that this is the only reason. May me one of the reasons. Many hobbyists here see many girls and prefer that they are not pimped, me included; That means we all want to marry all of them (well, perhaps for 1 hr I do) ? No, I think human beings have a basic decency about it and prefer to see women that are not being exploited.

I can't compare a provider to a plumber, because the provider is sharing her intimacy with me; She is giving her most precious gift. I don't want her to be exploited.

Incidentally, I do care if the plumber fixing my toilet is being exploited, and as an example would not hire him if I know he works (by way of an example) for a boss that hire illegal aliens, keeps their papers and forces them to work at lower wages than a normal plumber would get.

I also don't see a provider having a boy friend as being pimped; unless the guy doesn't work and lives from the providers' income, in which case he is pimping her in my opinion. But if the guy has no problem with her line of work and goes to work 8-5 and sees this as her choice of work, I don't see it as pimped.

Ok.. here is my take on it.


If you are seeing a pretty little thing under the age of 22, chances are good that she is pimped or managed in some way. Deep down, we all know this is true. But the fact of the matter is-- the cute, fit 20 year old that will swallow your load and smile is one of the "Holy Grails" in the hobby. As long as said management stays in the shadows and doesn't cause problems... her phone will ring off the hook. And really-- that is ok. We should not be shaming people for who they choose to see. The stupidity of this is that her pimp chose to go gorilla. Why, dude? Why fuck up such a cash cow like that? When you have business lined up like that in DALLAS... one of the hardest cities to stay consistently busy... you have something special. Foolish man fucked it up, IMO.

If she wasn't bruised, beaten, or obviously dabbling in substances that we cannot mention, then I frankly am not going to get involved in the shaming. There are lots of girls who started out on that side of things... saw just how lucrative it could be... then broke free and started doing things on their own. From what I hear, with her looks and service level-- minus the recent action she was an absolute gem. Whether she had the maturity and business acumen to do it on her own is another subject for another time... a lot of young girls just don't have the TCB to handle it-- this is another truth we all know.

I love being independent. I love controlling my own business, my own schedule, and my own advertising and marketing. But the business end of things just isn't for everyone. So why should I judge the choices that others make? Don't get me wrong-- those who are controlled by force, intimidation, assault, and chemical means NEED saving-- but they are damn near impossible to save until they choose to get away. Which brings it all back to-- is the pimp visibly involved and is there an imminent threat? If the answer to that question is no.. then what the fuck does it really matter? Hobby the way you choose and have your fun. And please, be sure to warn the community IF things DO go rogue. That is just responsible participation, IMO.

AS was getting stunning reviews until her management started fucking with the hobbyists. Nobody cared until then. I don't care now. It's not my business if I'm not directly affected.

**Addition** I'll bet a dollar to a donut (thanks for that on TPBG) that mofos on here are still trying to track her down for a show.

I disagree that this is the only reason. May me one of the reasons. Many hobbyists here see many girls and prefer that they are not pimped, me included; That means we all want to marry all of them (well, perhaps for 1 hr I do) ? No, I think human beings have a basic decency about it and prefer to see women that are not being exploited.

I can't compare a provider to a plumber, because the provider is sharing her intimacy with me; She is giving her most precious gift. I don't want her to be exploited.

Incidentally, I do care if the plumber fixing my toilet is being exploited, and as an example would not hire him if I know he works (by way of an example) for a boss that hire illegal aliens, keeps their papers and forces them to work at lower wages than a normal plumber would get.

I also don't see a provider having a boy friend as being pimped; unless the guy doesn't work and lives from the providers' income, in which case he is pimping her in my opinion. But if the guy has no problem with her line of work and goes to work 8-5 and sees this as her choice of work, I don't see it as pimped. Originally Posted by lukeskywalker7667

All do respect, I'm sure all that shit happens at amps and I don't see them closing shop. There are daily reviews on here for them. So, my point still stands. Mofos can't " wife up" the amp girls. Mamsan ain't having that shit. But NOBODY bitches on here about Mamasan or Dennis Hoff. So it's all a joke.

I will also say that from my time working in a studio, I never met a chick that wasn't head over heels in love with her pimp. Along with that, I only met maybe 2 who weren't with a pimp. One lady was almost 60 and was STILL with her "man" and trying like hell to bring him younger girls.

All do respect, I'm sure all that shit happens at amps and I don't see them closing shop. There are daily reviews on here for them. So, my point still stands. Mofos can't " wife up" the amp girls. Mamsan ain't having that shit. But NOBODY bitches on here about Mamasan or Dennis Hoff. So it's all a joke.

I will also say that from my time working in a studio, I never met a chick that wasn't head over heels in love with her pimp. Along with that, I only met maybe 2 who weren't with a pimp. One lady was almost 60 and was STILL with her "man" and trying like hell to bring him younger girls. Originally Posted by str8.2.bbbj

I believe this is happening somewhat at AMPS too. One of the many reasons I never went to an AMP or a studio.

My point is that there are other reasons for not wanting the girl to be pimped, besides "wifing her up".

AS was getting stunning reviews until her management started fucking with the hobbyists. Nobody cared until then. I don't care now. It's not my business if I'm not directly affected.

**Addition** I'll bet a dollar to a donut (thanks for that on TPBG) that mofos on here are still trying to track her down for a show. Originally Posted by str8.2.bbbj

With all due respect str, your generalization one the part I highlighted is incorrect; many people cared including myself. One of the reasons I didn't go see her because it was obvious the pimping activity. I know of another 4 or 5 guys that didn't for the same reason. I believe there are many more of us that do care.

I respect your opinion, but disagree with your generalization.

AS was getting stunning reviews until her management started fucking with the hobbyists. Nobody cared until then. I don't care now. It's not my business if I'm not directly affected.

**Addition** I'll bet a dollar to a donut (thanks for that on TPBG) that mofos on here are still trying to track her down for a show. Originally Posted by str8.2.bbbj

Exactly. This is the one post I agree with.


But seriously people. The cheap shots and constant shit talking of others is getting really old. Grow up. This is Escort Client Community Information Exchange. Not Escort Client High School.

As adults, we should be capable of having a civil debate.

Did you derive the answer you were looking from all the stupid shit posted on this thread, OSBG?

I believe this is happening somewhat at AMPS too. One of the many reasons I never went to an AMP or a studio.

My point is that there are other reasons for not wanting the girl to be pimped, besides "wifing her up". Originally Posted by lukeskywalker7667

What are the reasons? I'm very interested in knowing.

The ONLY reason a dude would care about a pimp he's never seen is because he wants to "wife up" the provider that he's PAYING to see. That's it. Period.
Originally Posted by str8.2.bbbj

Not true at all. Why do you think your view is the absolute only possibility?

Personally, if I know a girl is pimped or even suspect it, I try to stay away for several reasons.

1) Safety - You never know if you're walking into a dangerous situation. Maybe they have had good reviews before where the pimp stayed out of the way, stayed out of sight, but maybe they are desperate for money, strung out on something, etc, etc, etc.. and suddenly you have the "angry boyfriend" scenario where the guy busts in and tries to rob you or worse.

2) I don't care to support someone who may be doing this against their will or may be brainwashed into doing this.

3) I don't care to support someone who may beat the provider. I'm sure there are plenty of abusive spouses/boyfriends out there as well, but if I know a provider is pimped, that thought is in my mind, and I don't want to support that.

I don't care in the least bit to "wife up" any provider, that's just ridiculous.

Have I seen pimped providers in the past? Very likely I have, but if I know ahead of time or suspect it ahead of time, I will avoid it.