The openly honest thought process of a minority hobbyist from 2010 to now, on a dead horse topic….

Never give a fuck about what anyone else thinks, does, or says.

Originally Posted by Prime Time

Thanks Primetime! I need to keep this in mind. There are a lot of haters.... With that I digress.

Well fuck all that dude, I like you. and if we met I could have a beer or two with you and have a good laugh at all this shit.

I like Russ's observation about the changes we go through in our journey as hobbyists.

By the way, I have instituted an NUTA policy. No uppity twats allowed. Originally Posted by spear88

Real talk Spear.... See providers that want to see you. The ones that don't. Oh well.... Move on to the next. But when the well goes dry... Then what.

Real talk Spear.... See providers that want to see you. The ones that don't. Oh well.... Move on to the next. But when the well goes dry... Then what. Originally Posted by Hotboyz

Lol...Hotboyz you know that well ain't even close to drying up on you bruh!

I think these providers and their Pimps have the right to choose as I've stated. Personally I have too many RW friends to be concerned with biased providers but I like giving my two cents anyway.

I find it laughable that I would visit ANY client and slowly convince her I want to be her pimp that's not a very good Return on Capital Employed (ROCE) for me and quite frankly is a time waster. However, I think it's deeper than Dorian's understanding and his message should have been two-fold.

One to the women who are truly (discriminating Indy) and another to the Pimps controlling the girls he wants to see. The issue for me in part is ultimately rooted in socioeconomic factors that many of these providers have lived with or been led to believe all their lives. It's hard for many of them and even their PIMPS (who I know is running things behind the scenes and reading this as I type ) it's hard for them to accept educated and very successful young (or older) black guys at face value.

For the Pimps reading this specifically, I understand your hustle. I suspect either (1) you were never brought up around good examples of black academic achievers and so your circle of influence has always been negative. You likely think that successful black men can only be found in Sports or Entertainment. (2) you envy when you look in the mirror and sense a personal failure by way of comparison, or (3) you're afraid black guys pose too much of a retaliation risk if you storm in on a session to intimidate.

That's how I would have laid it out if I were Dorian. Then again I probably wouldn't have at all. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

Great words Z!!!! Great words indeed.....

First of all, I closed that thread and I closed the thread because I am tired of the same fucking discussion coming to the same fucking conclusion. There is none.





I love this woman. Can you "catfish" me for a few years?


Dorian I am glad to see you have made it to 37, wait until you turn 50 and you won't give a fuck. You may not make it if you let that shit get to you. I have experienced prejudice that would make you faint, before you were even born.

My Dad told me "Son, I have some bad news for you. You're black, which means you have to work twice as hard, be twice as smart and if you ever use your race as a reason for failure, get the fuck out of my face!

I am sure if you let one of these NBA ladies know..."I am Dorian and I will take care of all of your bills!" - NBA Policy gone

The other ones will just not be attracted to brothers. Damn I am not attracted to certain types of women. What do you know!??

I think you should find something or someone you care about more than yourself. If you cannot...You're fucked. Originally Posted by DarthMaul

Amen.... I have ALWAYS had to prove myself... But hey, I love a challenge. There are some great people of ALL races. I have friends of ALL races. But at the end of the day it is what it is. If you don't like me fine, but why be jealous and hate. We will always have haters. Part of life. Shouldn't ever stop us from spending money with who want to see us. 1000 of providers willing to see us.

DG.........Been reading your posts for a long time.....Especially enjoy most of your attachments or quotes, but have usually sensed an edge, or suppressed anger in many of your comments. Never gave it much thought till reading your post tonight. As a white guy, the NBA ads had no impact on me at all, and it never dawned on me that those rejections are a real shot at people the provider not only doesn't know, but never will.......... That crap has got to hurt you on some level, even though posted by a total stranger.....Or maybe just because it's a stranger.......No deep philosophical ending to this reply, but wanted to let you know you reached at least one person on the board who isn't going to give you a smartass answer...........One day we might all learn to live together, but I'm pretty sure it aint gonna happen anytime soon......... Originally Posted by starflash

Real talk from a real gentleman! That's what's up starfish....

Lol...Hotboyz you know that well ain't even close to drying up on you bruh! Originally Posted by 1sthandsonguy

Not at all. And you know this man..... Even with the hate going on. Lol.

^^^^

I'm a whitey, so I don't know quite how the No AA thing really feels. It sounds like a pretty strange reason to not see somebody to me. But I will say that I've failed to actually get a session with several providers I went after, and their reasons why were either never given, or didn't make any sense to me either. For what it's worth, I've stopped seeing, moved on from, or never even tried to see plenty of ladies, and they'd probably find my reasons for doing so nonsensical or not very satisfying.

IMHO, it's not worth getting hung up on. There will always be some people who don't want to deal with you. Most of the time, you will never get a reason why that makes sense to you. Even if you did, so what? Are you going to try to change to appeal to them? No thanks for me. All you can do is try to forget about it, and move on to somebody who will deal with you.

Heh...awesome...

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

A confederacy of dunces.

Some of you brotha's just don't get it. It's all in your provider references. If your references vouch good for you, regardless of the color of your skin, you'll have no problems.

The real issue is this: Many independent ladies are concerned that a black client will try to become their pimp and cut in on their business. They've had it happen to them or their colleagues too many times before.

So, it's the pimps that are your enemy and the reason behind the NBA policy, my friends, not the ladies, per se.

But, then if you're a dork loser, that don't help either. Originally Posted by StinkyFingers

To the average NBA provider its 90% personal.
Plently of women(and men) only date within their own race in real civilian life..is it supposed to be any different cause money is involved?Hookers have preferences too..
Its easy to spot NBA chicks who only want to appear 'untainted' by black penis to insecure,racist white clients..and those complying with their pimps' demands..

It kills me how black guys keep pestering racist hookers to take their money though...like whats the point??

And white guys happy to have a NBA chick who clearly has a black pimp barebacking her every night...
Hilarious..