Do you eat that Kitty? Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDBYou're a real fucking asshole, you know that, hillbilly?
Well, this isn't some shit hole European Country, or some Fascist Muslim State run by fanatics. This is The United States of America, where everybody is equal under the law, regardless of color, creed, religious belief, financial status, or some other dreamed up line of demarcation created by those that want to control what others think, and believe. Originally Posted by Jackie S
Nobody has picked a hero....all I have done is point out two things.I guess Dr Martin Luther King's proclamation that "we should should judge people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin" just doesn't apply here.
One, when 2/3 of the community is Jewish and 97% of the police force is Muslim, even you could see how that might be a problem.
.[/SIZE] Originally Posted by WTF
I have to question on whether or not these people vote. St. Louis is a huge democratic enclave. I am sure without checking that the mayor is a democrat. So why doesn't the make up of the police force reflect the racial make up of the town? Is it the fault of the mayor, the people who refuse to step forward for the job, or the people for electing people who don't really care about this stuff.Typical JDIdiot response, when in doubt blame the Democrat's!
Yep, just about all of the city council and the mayor are white and democrat. http://www.fergusoncity.com/171/Council-Members
One was a cop, one is a Vietnam veteran and retired Air Force noncomm, the rest.... typical libs.
So what happened? I'm not saying that the GOP could do it better but I am saying that the long term effects of democratic rule have taken a toll and you're watching it fall apart. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Again...that is not what I am saying....I am saying that community policing is better when you hire officers from within the community that represent the racial/social and religious makeup of said community.
You are saying that black cops would just allow the thugs and punks to run amok, letting them rob, steal, and do mayhem against the citizens of the community.
. Originally Posted by Jackie S
I'm not racist at all, but many white people don't give a shit about anything that doesn't directly affect them. I guaran-damn-tee you that if any one of these cop sympathizers lived in a neighborhood where 90% of the cops were black, muslim, Indian, Mexican, or even Asian, they would raise hell.
Many whites don't understand the lofty perch of white privilege that they sit on. Because of this perch, they've never been exposed to the lifelong grief that others of another demographic suffer. It's like being born into wealth and not being able to understand why po' people just won't walk outside and get a job.
The same cops that 'yes sir' and 'yes ma'am'-ing to you and your people, could be treating everyone else like a piece of shit bastard. Me, personally, I've never lived the 'thug life' or in extreme, inner city ghetto conditions. I grew up poor and from a small town, and that's different from going up poor and living in NY, L.A., or Philly, where in those areas, there are greater outside influences (gangs, crime bosses, etc). It's a different kind of poverty, and attitudes are different. I didn't need to live the 'street life', where there may have been run-ins with officers.
Without getting too long-winded with this, the point I'm trying to make is that in inner city situations, kids grew up watching their dads and moms, aunts and uncles having run-ins with the cops, and chances are it wasn't pretty. With no media devices in their face to police them, the cops could slam a 'suspect' around with little threats of repercussion, if any. As a kid, you see that, and as you get older, you have a preset disdain for law enforcement. When they come to you, your first thought may be how they cuffed and hauled off your uncle or dad. They most likely know who you are, as they watch you grow up in that family. You're thinking, they're going to treat you the same way they treated your relative. Your initial impulse is to NOT cooperate, because no matter what you do, they're going to take the low road against you. Part of the problem is that neither side seems to do anything to change this.
Living in poverty in big cities is hard to do. Paying $1,500 a month in rent for a shack apartment, for example, is hard to do if you have insufficient means of income. Every month is a nerve racking struggle, as you bounce bills around, while trying to eat, and live in general. Something is always not paid on time. Everyday you live this stressful process, and it's never-ending. Desperation is always there, and any means to produce income is an option. You can walk the fine line of trying to live 'right' 6 days a week, 364 days a year. But that one day where you go too far, knowingly or not, and now your life is different once they have a police record on you.
They get you in the system, and DON'T WANT TO let you out of it. Outside of hitting the lottery or an NBA contract, there's just no way out of it.
Oh, but it's easy. Just walk outside and 'get a job'. OK, who's hiring? Who's going to hire an untrained, partially high school educated, unskilled 'worker' from the ghetto who's relatives have a criminal record?
If you've lived in a privileged area, odds are you've never been exposed to this process. Life is just dandy if you're born into upper middle class or well off households. Your resume' is literally being written up for you as you grow up. Your dad works at IBM and your mom is the vice principal at a school. Oh, we know you're a good kid. We're going to hire you as soon as you graduate from Duke or Princeton or Cal Tech.
The only time you deal with the cops is when you complain about a black/Mexican/poor trash white/etc who 'looks suspicious'. Who's going to get better treatment in this situation? Who's going to get the benefit of the doubt? Who's more likely to get cuffed and slammed to the concrete?
Who wants to WAIT to be cuffed and slammed to the concrete?
Google 'white privilege' if that phrase is unfamiliar to you. Originally Posted by Rambro Creed
I'm not racist at all, but many white people don't give a shit about anything that doesn't directly affect them. I guaran-damn-tee you that if any one of these cop sympathizers lived in a neighborhood where 90% of the cops were black, muslim, Indian, Mexican, or even Asian, they would raise hell.As long as you and the other black folks buy into this white privilege bullshit, and liberals who should know better fall for the con, we will keep getting more Ferguson's. While there is some small amount of a legitimate complaint in there, most of the black assholes I see on TV getting fucked around by the cops fucking deserve it for acting like assholes, no matter the somewhat legitimate but overplayed hand of historically poor treatment.
Many whites don't understand the lofty perch of white privilege that they sit on. Because of this perch, they've never been exposed to the lifelong grief that others of another demographic suffer. It's like being born into wealth and not being able to understand why po' people just won't walk outside and get a job.
The same cops that 'yes sir' and 'yes ma'am'-ing to you and your people, could be treating everyone else like a piece of shit bastard. Me, personally, I've never lived the 'thug life' or in extreme, inner city ghetto conditions. I grew up poor and from a small town, and that's different from going up poor and living in NY, L.A., or Philly, where in those areas, there are greater outside influences (gangs, crime bosses, etc). It's a different kind of poverty, and attitudes are different. I didn't need to live the 'street life', where there may have been run-ins with officers.
Without getting too long-winded with this, the point I'm trying to make is that in inner city situations, kids grew up watching their dads and moms, aunts and uncles having run-ins with the cops, and chances are it wasn't pretty. With no media devices in their face to police them, the cops could slam a 'suspect' around with little threats of repercussion, if any. As a kid, you see that, and as you get older, you have a preset disdain for law enforcement. When they come to you, your first thought may be how they cuffed and hauled off your uncle or dad. They most likely know who you are, as they watch you grow up in that family. You're thinking, they're going to treat you the same way they treated your relative. Your initial impulse is to NOT cooperate, because no matter what you do, they're going to take the low road against you. Part of the problem is that neither side seems to do anything to change this.
Living in poverty in big cities is hard to do. Paying $1,500 a month in rent for a shack apartment, for example, is hard to do if you have insufficient means of income. Every month is a nerve racking struggle, as you bounce bills around, while trying to eat, and live in general. Something is always not paid on time. Everyday you live this stressful process, and it's never-ending. Desperation is always there, and any means to produce income is an option. You can walk the fine line of trying to live 'right' 6 days a week, 364 days a year. But that one day where you go too far, knowingly or not, and now your life is different once they have a police record on you.
They get you in the system, and DON'T WANT TO let you out of it. Outside of hitting the lottery or an NBA contract, there's just no way out of it.
Oh, but it's easy. Just walk outside and 'get a job'. OK, who's hiring? Who's going to hire an untrained, partially high school educated, unskilled 'worker' from the ghetto who's relatives have a criminal record?
If you've lived in a privileged area, odds are you've never been exposed to this process. Life is just dandy if you're born into upper middle class or well off households. Your resume' is literally being written up for you as you grow up. Your dad works at IBM and your mom is the vice principal at a school. Oh, we know you're a good kid. We're going to hire you as soon as you graduate from Duke or Princeton or Cal Tech.
The only time you deal with the cops is when you complain about a black/Mexican/poor trash white/etc who 'looks suspicious'. Who's going to get better treatment in this situation? Who's going to get the benefit of the doubt? Who's more likely to get cuffed and slammed to the concrete?
Who wants to WAIT to be cuffed and slammed to the concrete?
Google 'white privilege' if that phrase is unfamiliar to you. Originally Posted by Rambro Creed
As long as you and the other black folks buy into this white privilege bullshit, and liberals who should know better fall for the con, we will keep getting more Ferguson's. While there is some small amount of a legitimate complaint in there, most of the black assholes I see on TV getting fucked around by the cops fucking deserve it for acting like assholes, no matter the somewhat legitimate but overplayed hand of historically poor treatment.Thank you for further illustrating my point.
My people had 6 million sent to their deaths, and sure we complain about it, but we fucking also work our ass off to make money and overcome it. So, yeah, the motherfuckers need to go get a fucking job and quit stealing shit. Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer
Well, what solutions do you have, Jewish Lawyer, to getting out of deep poverty in the crime-riddled cesspools known as the GHET-TOW?No problem, white, black, brown, yellow or red .. work your ass off, say yes sir and no sir, show up to the job on time every fucking year, and work your ass off. Otherwise, go to jail and blame someone else for your shitty life.
Enlighten me, so's I can I pass it on down to those in the ghetto, so they can lead rich, fulfilling lives such as yourself.
I also forgot to add shitty schools in my other post. Remember the movie, 'Lean On Me'? Yeah, that. Maybe not quite as extreme, but ummm....let's say they're in unfavorable conditions. Of course, they're being taught things that don't mean jack to a poor, ghetto bastard with no dad, 3-4 brothers/sisters that they share clothes with. Throw in some bullying. The psychological scars, dude. Wow. It's a mess.
But, yeah. Illuminate on the 'cures' of hardcore, scraping the bottom of the economic barrel poverty. Originally Posted by Rambro Creed
I'm not racist at all, but many white people don't give a shit about anything that doesn't directly affect them. I guaran-damn-tee you that if any one of these cop sympathizers lived in a neighborhood where 90% of the cops were black, muslim, Indian, Mexican, or even Asian, they would raise hell.Fuck, they would probably move - problem solved.
Originally Posted by Rambro Creed