Thoughts on Reviews

Unfortunately, I don't know much about 99.6% of the guys here, so I have no clue whether someone is "a gentleman with tastes similar to my own." Originally Posted by Chevalier

At least up to a point, I know what you mean.

But I generally recall ( at least somewhat) favorable comments made by guys who seem attracted to the ladies who strike my fancy. Conversely, I learn to tune out opinions of gents who seem to go for ladies who are manifestly not my type.

I feel that way just about everytime I read a thread in D&T. Not to mention uncouth and ill-mannered. I feel like the poor cousin from the sticks come to visit the rich relatives in the big city, or the high-school dropout visiting Harvard. Y'all are (unintentionally, I'm sure) intimidating as hell. But I'll survive and maybe some of this place will rub off on me. Originally Posted by Chevalier

Oh I have felt this way for a couple of years now.First ASPD now eccie.It still has not rubbed off on me, but I do have a lot of fun annoying people anyway.

You are not alone here



PS Thank you so much Elisabeth.I just looked to my left, and am just thrilled to see them gone.

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ote=Chevalier;807509]I feel that way just about everytime I read a thread in D&T. Not to mention uncouth and ill-mannered. I feel like the poor cousin from the sticks come to visit the rich relatives in the big city, or the high-school dropout visiting Harvard. Y'all are (unintentionally, I'm sure) intimidating as hell. But I'll survive and maybe some of this place will rub off on me. [/quote]

Dude, your handle is "Chevalier" and you're playin' the country bumpkin? Please, don't insult our collective intelligence.

I wallow in self-deprecation so I won't speak for others, but we ain't all that special. We just be ordinary folks with vocabularies obtained at public schools. Or at least most of us. The special ones can correct me.

I write reviews. I ask permission. I write reviews full of details. If I am asked to omit details I will. I have been asked more than once to write a review and I have. I have heard from providers and hobbyists that my reviews are helpful.
What is wrong with that?

Reviews are the reality and they aren't going away (ir)regardless of this debate.

Awl4knot

[Reviews are the reality and they aren't going away (ir)regardless of this debate.

Awl4knot Originally Posted by awl4knot

Of course not. They are the raison d'etre for this and the rest of the hooker boards. This discussion stuff is an afterthought

Us non-review folks are the vast minority

I feel that way just about everytime I read a thread in D&T. Not to mention uncouth and ill-mannered. I feel like the poor cousin from the sticks come to visit the rich relatives in the big city, or the high-school dropout visiting Harvard. Y'all are (unintentionally, I'm sure) intimidating as hell. But I'll survive and maybe some of this place will rub off on me. Originally Posted by Chevalier

LMAO! I'm just a poor dumb farmer. It's just that back in the good old days when I got my 4th grade education, it was better than college is these days.

Back in the days when I tried to do research on ladies, I was very frustrated by not only the lack of information about all ladies, but also the lack of reliable information about the ladies that were reviewed.

In general, it appeared to me (and still does) that the following generalities (there are always exceptions) tend to be true:

• The same ladies are reviewed over and over again. It is really hard to find reviews on the vast majority of ladies who are in the business.
• Ladies on BP are not reviewed with the exception of verified providers, who may or may not be reviewed.
• Some of the ladies in whom I might be interested are not reviewed at all on this board. They may be reviewed on other boards, but I don't have the kind of access that allows me to see the reviews, so they are pretty useless to me.

Bottom line is that since they are not very comprehensive, they're only helpful on an extremely limited basis. Which is why I've kind of given up on searching them.

LMAO! I'm just a poor dumb farmer. This is a flat out lie. By your own admission you're an entrepreneur who dabbles in chemistry and other hard sciences. It's just that back in the good old days when I got my 4th grade education, it was better than college is these days. Yea, those of you who went to boarding school had a quality advantage. Originally Posted by Laurentius

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Well, it isn't *technically* a lie. You see, I DO own an organic farm among other projects, which qualifies me as a farmer. Use of the terms "poor" and "dumb" in conjunction with "farmer" are simply playing to stereotypes. These are relative terms. Compared to George Soros I am quite poor.

True, farming is not ALL that I do -- it's actually a very small part -- but since I do it and it is included in my tax return from hell, I can claim to be a farmer. (*grin*)

As for education, I never attended a boarding school.

And my education has been *at least* through the 4th grade. And I cross my heart pinky swear that I am NOT a (medical) doctor. (*chuckle*)

So I pulled a standard lawyer trick of saying something that is very technically true while conveying an utterly false impression. I thought it was pretty good.

So I pulled a standard lawyer trick of saying something that is very technically true while conveying an utterly false impression. I thought it was pretty good. Originally Posted by Laurentius

We'll give you an honorary ticket to the bar.

Reviews are essential for a new provider. Once she has established a little credibility, I am not sure how important they are. I certainly am not going to ask for a review. I want any review to be genuine and factual. How often do you get asked for a review and do you find that a bit offensive? I suppose it is different if you already have an established relationship with a lady.

I have gotten a completely fake review on e.com and I never could figure out the motive. It wasn't necessarily bad, it was simply fake. I found that when someone tries to trash a reputable lady here, on ECCIE, the guys will step in to her defense.

Well why don't we go back to the way it used to be.The good old days. No reviews at all. The girls were almost always different than their picture. About a quarter of them were cash and dashes. They had large pimps waiting outside to beat the shit out of you if you didn't do exactly what the provider wanted. Alot of you aren't old enough to remember that. But your right let's get rid of the reviews because they have no value and mIght offend somebody that did a bad job. How rude of us to even think that.

GUYS THE REVIEWS ARE THERE FOR YOU. IF YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE THEM OR DON'T BELIEVE THEM SO BE IT. ME FOR ONE I'M GOING TO READ ALL THE REVIEWS I CAN FIND. I THINK I'M SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT THE BOGUS ONES

We all have different reasons for hobbying. Reviews will be helpful to some men, while for others they will be useless.

Not all of us are fortunate enough to have friends or connections in this hobby world of ours that we can call upon for a good referral. Because of this, a little more information is required to make decision.

So, my question goes back to the men.How much do you rely on reviews when deciding on who you want to meet? And if a woman decides to have hers removed, or never allowed any from the start would that be a deal breaker, or would you then simply focus on other bits of her info instead ? Originally Posted by Becky

Although my decision is not based solely on a woman's reviews, I do read them and find them helpful. My tastes and preferences are very specific. Basically, I'm looking for confirmation that she offers everything I am looking for and that her pictures are an accurate representation of what she looks like today. I realize every encounter will be different, but I will still skim through the details to give me a general idea of how my date with the same lady might progress.

Sometimes I may be spending a large amount, so you can understand my need for more information in addition to the words and pictures on her website. The lack of reviews is not necessarily a deal breaker; however, it will cause me to give it much more thought, and I may temporarily move on to someone else while I take more time to think about it. Depending on the price, it can be difficult to take a chance on a non-reviewed lady when the only thing I have to go on (besides her website if she has one) is secondhand information from a guy that "heard" she was the real deal.

To determine compatibility and whether or not our personalities are a good match for an extended date, I like to use email exchange and form my own conclusion rather than rely on general details in a review. I think you can tell a lot about a person by the way they write and what they write. It may seem strange, but I have a listing of questions I sometimes like to ask women I'm considering spending time with. They are all questions that can have one word answers. Most of the time I will get brief or one word answers, which is perfectly fine. However, a few months ago, I had one lady answer each question in great detail with 1-2 lengthy paragraphs per question. It gave me a great insight into her personality, and I was very impressed as it was obvious she spent a lot of time and effort composing her answers. That basically sealed the deal for me to see her, and I ended up flying to her city just to meet this lady.

I certainly am not going to ask for a review. I want any review to be genuine and factual. How often do you get asked for a review and do you find that a bit offensive? Originally Posted by heidilynnla

??? Why should asking for a review detract from it being genuine and factual? I've been asked occasionally for a review. It doesn't offend me and I still give an honest description and evaluation.

Are you ever asked for a reference or to give an OK on P411? Does that offend you? Do you feel compelled, because asked, to give a less-than-honest reference/OK?

Burkalini,

You seem upset and angry; I'm not sure why. I don't think any of us are saying no one should use reviews. We're saying that we (the ladies) find them distasteful or that we (the guys) don't find them very useful for ourselves. But the latter depends a lot on where we happen to live and play, what we seek in P4P, what other information is available to us, etc.

With respect to the bad old days, which I recall very well, we didn't have anything; no ladies' detailed websites, no forums like this in which to interact and assess ladies' personalities, no alert forums, no access to other guys who would warn us. The cash-and-dash, the robberies or muggings, the blatantly deceptive pictures -- those are still out there, but almost exclusively in markets that do not participate on boards, have websites, etc. The overall incidence of those bad behaviors has dropped dramatically, outside of certain market niches.

What we've been talking about is more along the lines of not relying on reviews to choose between "safe" ladies rather than weeding out the dangerous or bad actors. Just by where we choose to look, we can weed out the latter. And, in some cases, we're acknowledging the value of a review system or making sure the lady has reviews, which reassures us the lady isn't a scam, even if we're not interested that much in the content of positive reviews, in order to choose which "safe" lady we want to see.

More importantly, I think we're all acknowledging that reviews may be useful for others. Some people are looking for something specific for which they need to read reviews. That's fine, and we don't criticize that.

For the most part, we're not advocating that reviews be eliminated. We're just saying that we don't find the detailed content, as opposed to the existence, very useful.

Reviews are good / bad in any number of ways. In my earlier days as a hobbyist I recall selecting a provider based on location, availability, fee and two reviews that suggested (bragged?) that the lady was "GFE".

Its an old country song but I was misled by the reviews. I now tend to use email when possible to glean info from the reviewers. Helps a bunch.