New to the Hobby - terrible experience so far =/

I meant the expensive bottles purchased at the restaurant to delight my palate...Yummy doesn't buy her own drinks, silly
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I can't understand why he doesn't contact Lauren Mayfair or Celine dubois or several others on here... Originally Posted by shinepro
Lauren Mayfair requires references, as does pretty much everyone - even people advertising newbie-friendliness. I'm not sure I've heard of Celine before.

I *have* sent some PMs and e-mails, with what I hope is a suitable case for giving me an opportunity to be a friend - we'll see if I have any bites. I e-mailed Dorthy. I've also made an inquiry with Rileigh Monroe - she's in-town with Jane Smith and Madison May. I do have a bucket list!

Perspective though. I learned about the hobby 2 days ago (It's after midnight, so three days).
Day #1: I introduced myself, explained my troubles thus far. Most of my posting has been in the Diamonds and Tuxedos forum.

Day #2: Read all the feedback on how I should conduct myself - received some valuable pointers on etiquette and alternative screening opportunities - since discretion is extremely important to me.

Day #3: (Now) - Making my first hesitant steps towards meeting new people and making friends.

That's some pretty significant progress for less than three days in the world!
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P.s. If you gave us some indication of your preferences we might be able to assist you more specifically with suggestions. You're looking for someone with an attractive face sure, I understand as for myself the facial beauty is the most important...but what age bracket, race, and body type are you seeking? Originally Posted by SpiceItUp
I'm really picky. Race doesn't matter, but physical characteristics often make some racial tendencies less appealing. Age bracket would be sub-40, body type would be slender to athletic. Pair that with a gentle smile, kind eyes, a touch of playful, and I think I'd be sold. =D

Like I said - I've made some inquiries and a few cases for why I'm worth consideration despite my newbie status - we'll see if I get anywhere.
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I'm learning new things everyday, however my palate could have sworn there was a distinct difference in the flavor of a Syrah and a Shiraz. Shiraz being my first love and all...then again, I do get mixed up with the Sirah and Syrah labels. I'd say tell me more, but I'd rather you show me and bring some more wine while you're at it.

Craving capital grille now...I've had my best tasting experiences there, however not on my own dime of course Originally Posted by YummyMarie
Don't get overworked on Syrah vs Shiraz. I started as a Shiraz fan - it's a good staple. Drink it often enough, and you start to wonder what ELSE tastes as good? That's how I found Petite Sirah - I was looking for other full-bodied, dry wines, and someone made a recommendation. Hook & Smith is another pretty decent wine...

I think what you're saying is that you like full-bodied, dry red wines. Shiraz is a staple of them. Stop into your local liquor store or supermarket. Ask for a sub-$30 Petite Sirah. There's a pretty good Michael David bottle that has a picture of elephants on the label. If you like that, (still in the full-bodied, dry range), at the extreme end of that tasty spectrum is a bottle of Predator Zinfandel. You can buy it here. Graduate into the ranks of Amarone with a $30 bottle of Amarone Gregoris. If you make it through all this, and each is distinctly more pleasurable than the prior, look me up, and I'll open a bottle of Giuseppe Amarone for your tasting pleasure. I have one bottle handy, but I haven't had a bottle of it since 2003 - it's a rare treat.
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Shouldn't this wine thread be moved to the Sandbox?. Originally Posted by chicagoboy
Well, it did start out as a whine thread...
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9/10 a girl on BP is not going to "waste their time" on a dinner date for one or two reasons. Daddy wont let them or other Johns' messed that up a long time ago. By any chance they do, they'll come dressed inappropriately.

Lose/Lose

I suggest you go to the newbie friendly provider list, and contact one of them. Now if they can't get that shit right, I don't know what to tell you. Lol

Not every provider is the same, no matter what trend you may acquire.

Happy Hunting!

F.Y.I
I offer dinner date's but I'm not newbie friendly, some ladies here list that they offer them, you may have to spend a little time with someone or two you normally wouldn't in order to get a reference to who you really desire. Who knows, you may even have a great time.
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Call #3: She *did* show up, but wearing something indecent. I politely thanked her for showing up, gave her $20 to cover gas, and explained that I didn't think what she was wearing was suitable for a dinner date, especially opposite a suit and tie, and told her that I didn't wish to pursue our date any further. We weren't at Morton's, but what she was wearing was still inappropriately undressed.

Advice is most welcome. Originally Posted by TravelingGentleman
Did you screen #3, or communicate with her about what you'd like her to wear? I think it was really rude of you give her $20 "for gas" after she probably bent her rules & then went out of her way to meet you, she was probably really humiliated. You say your willing to compensate someone to have dinner with you, so you can find out whether or not she would be suitable to continue further with; this tells me that if you don't like what you see right off the bat, they're going to get $20 and be sent on their way. You booked an hr of someone's time and that's what you should have given her. Just my .02 cents.



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The way I would understand "NEWBIE FRIENDLY" would be not needing any references, as you would not have any and are trying to build references from Verified Providers.

At least that's how I see it. Please clarify Justme & Fancy when you get a chance. As every Provider does have their own ways to screen. But when "I" say that I'm Newbie Friendly. I do NOT ask for references.
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Originally Posted by pink taco
Don't you people know when you're being trolled? If someone ask for advice then says he's not changing, you might just be trolled. Don't feed the troll. He will just counter with a contrary response. Originally Posted by pink taco
So you folks still feeding this troll? Thought you'd be smart enough to have figured out this is a troll, but 98 post later, you're still being trolled.
You keep jumping on the hook, carry on.
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And now for something completely different.

If you don't plan on getting provider references then don't complain that you have had a bad experiences.. If you don't want to take the appropriate steps to initiate a successful dinner date then you can't complain.. Try reading there showcase first..
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The way I would understand "NEWBIE FRIENDLY" would be not needing any references, as you would not have any and are trying to build references from Verified Providers.

At least that's how I see it. Please clarify Justme & Fancy when you get a chance. As every Provider does have their own ways to screen. But when "I" say that I'm Newbie Friendly. I do NOT ask for references. Originally Posted by Luvs2Purrr
That's the premise of my wee project, the Houston Newbie-Friendly Provider List. New Hobbyists have no references, so have to be screened other ways, and the companions on the list work with such fellows, or are supposed to, anyway, and then after seeing them give references if, and ONLY if, the sessions went well and the gentlemen followed the rules.

I did bounce one lady. She was willing to see newbies, but NEVER gave references. What's the point?

I don't think that TG is being unreasonable, or that he is a troll IMHO, just that he has different standards than ECCIE and may be in the wrong place for what he wants. He may also need to communicate his desires more fully.

Yes, we ladies should always be aware of having to fit into our environment (be the chameleon), but if a fellow wishes a lady to dress a certain way, and he intends to sport a suit, probably best he indicate that up front. Houston is a very laid-back city, and what's considered appropriate varies by the person beholding the beauty and the dress code of the establishment.

A note about dinner dates involving no BCD, or nekkid behind-closed-doors activities; most providers are NOT going to accept these as references.

TG said he wanted to be judged on personality, presentation, and actions, and that's understandable in the REAL world. Problem is in the Hobby, how does an escort know that the fellow isn't a member of a morality enforcement agency trying to pump her for information?

I still do non-BCD dates (frequently with gents who like a lady on their arm for the opera, symphony, theater, or some social gathering), but I limit talk about anything that could compromise Hobby safety. Plenty of other topics to chit chat about.


BP is not the place to look for a dinner date. Sorry about your bad experience so far.
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As far as smelling nice, Madison's old traveling friend Alessandra Donati could sell dryer sheets that smelled like her pussy. Good lord that girl was incredible. Softest skin I ever stroked too.

Anyway, now that this hit 100+ posts has the dude gotten laid yet? Drink enough wine at the biz dinner and the Bp chicks start to look fine. He could always try that. It's what most traveling biz guys with no references do.
Lauren Mayfair requires references, as does pretty much everyone - even people advertising newbie-friendliness. Originally Posted by TravelingGentleman
TG, maybe get on "Sugardaddyforme" & "SeekingArrangement" would be a better choice of sites for you. As I have stated before, there are plenty of ladies on Eccie that would enjoy your company for a dinner date, but not all. As it seems most of the gentlemen are looking for more of a quickie type visit. So, that seems to be what the Providers here are getting use too.

As, I am on both sites, as I like to be a mystery woman. 1)Girl next door; 2)A freak in the sheets/ in public; 3)or Dress up in elegance. As I will never be the boring one...LOL But then, I don't seem to be your type. Just giving you a little advice.

That's the premise of my wee project, the Houston Newbie-Friendly Provider List. New Hobbyists have no references, so have to be screened other ways, and the companions on the list work with such fellows, or are supposed to, anyway, and then after seeing them give references if, and ONLY if, the sessions went well and the gentlemen followed the rules.

I did bounce one lady. She was willing to see newbies, but NEVER gave references. What's the point?
Originally Posted by Fancyinheels
FANCY reason I made that statement was due to TG above comment. So, all just need to be aware if everyone listed on the "Newbie-Friendly List" are in fact NOT asking for references.