Capitalism's Dirty Byproduct

So Germany has "barred trade with China"? And you call that a "fact"? Gee, that's odd! Last time I checked Germany was buying $102 billion a year worth of Chinese goods. That's $36 billion more than it buys from the US! In fact, China is Germany's 3rd biggest trading partner! And you say "they've effectively barred trade with china"?

When it comes to economics, you are the most clueless buffoon on this board! You make things up out of thin air and call them "facts". All it takes is 30 seconds of research to prove you are a fucking idiot. Here's the link, shammymoron:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ers_of_Germany



On second thought, let's not. You know even less about Pakistan than you know about Germany. Are you still claiming their per capita income is $9800 when the Pakistan Bureau of Statistics puts it at $1513? Hey, you were only off by a factor of 6 on that one, you sloppy retard!

http://tribune.com.pk/story/889024/p...s-1513-a-year/

And are you still referring to China's currency as the yen instead of the yuan?



You sure have a yen for fucking that one up, dontcha? Those Asian currencies must "all look alike" to you!

Listen shamfucker, there are a handful of people on this board who have an obvious background in economics - Ex-CEO, ExNYer, and me. All 3 of us cringe and laugh every you post something here that has anything to do with economics. You really need to stop embarrassing yourself and leave such topics to the adults in the room.

. Originally Posted by lustylad

He and woomby are interchangeable with the dumbass "facts" when it comes to economics and all other issues. But they REALLY show their feeble, lobotomized minds weakness when it comes to talking economics. I like to see their responses in threads about economics just to see them lie, then squirm, then name call when the get their swishy walking asses handed to them by you, Ex-CEO, or EX-New Yorker !

So Germany has "barred trade with China"? And you call that a "fact"? Gee, that's odd! Last time I checked Germany was buying $102 billion a year worth of Chinese goods. That's $36 billion more than it buys from the US! In fact, China is Germany's 3rd biggest trading partner! And you say "they've effectively barred trade with china"?

When it comes to economics, you are the most clueless buffoon on this board! You make things up out of thin air and call them "facts". All it takes is 30 seconds of research to prove you are a fucking idiot. Here's the link, shammymoron: Originally Posted by lustylad

I knew Lustyretarded would be lurking around here somewhere, ready to hand out a couple of non-sequitur's based on one nitpicked line or the other.

But first, let's talk about this!

Listen shamfucker, there are a handful of people on this board who have an obvious background in economics - Ex-CEO, ExNYer, and me

Captainmidnight: yes. ExNYer: maybe.....but YOU?

PLEEEASE lustytard, you are a fucking fraud. And a laughable one at that. You're amateurism shines through every time you post. If you didn't suck your own dick so much, maybe someone would take you seriously.

Funny you bring up the "GDP per capita" discussion. To my recollection, you had to pick your ass off the floor and "scoot" off the forum for a couple of days.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...world+currency

So Germany has "effectively barred trade with China"?

Pay attention Lustyretarded. I said "effectively barred". I could have used the word "banned"....if that's what I meant...Try to understand the reasoning in an argument before getting your panties bunched up in a wad

No, I chose those words for a reason. China and Germany are good trading partners, I won't deny that. but they're not like the U.S. In a free-market economy, which is what the U.S is, nearly all manufactured products would be imported from china. It's the simple theory of competitive advantage. I'm sure that since your "back" is "grounded" in economics, you have no problem recognizing that term.

The question is then, why does Germany still have one of the strongest manufacturing economies in the world? Why does it still export more than it imports?

Germany could as easily close it's manufacturing industry and take advantage of Chinas export economy. After all, that's what capitalism dictates it should do. But it doesn't. It relys on trade barriers to close out chinas influence and therefore prop up it's manufacturing economy.

Someone with a "background" in economics would have no problem recognizing that.

Your inability to follow a thought to a logical conclusion is laughable. "background in economics" if my memory serves me correctly, you also once claimed to go to an Ivy league school!

Thanks for the laughs bud.

I knew Lustyretarded would be lurking around here somewhere, ready to hand out a couple of non-sequitur's based on one nitpicked line or the other.

But first, let's talk about this!








Captainmidnight: yes. ExNYer: maybe.....but YOU?

PLEEEASE lustytard, you are a fucking fraud. And a laughable one at that. You're amateurism shines through every time you post. If you didn't suck your own dick so much, maybe someone would take you seriously.

Funny you bring up the "GDP per capita" discussion. To my recollection, you had to pick your ass off the floor and "scoot" off the forum for a couple of days.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...world+currency




Pay attention Lustyretarded. I said "effectively barred". I could have used the word "banned"....if that's what I meant...Try to understand the reasoning in an argument before getting your panties bunched up in a wad

No, I chose those words for a reason. China and Germany are good trading partners, I won't deny that. but they're not like the U.S. In a free-market economy, which is what the U.S is, nearly all manufactured products would be imported from china. It's the simple theory of competitive advantage. I'm sure that since your "back" is "grounded" in economics, you have no problem recognizing that term.

The question is then, why does Germany still have one of the strongest manufacturing economies in the world? Why does it still export more than it imports?

Germany could as easily close it's manufacturing industry and take advantage of Chinas export economy. After all, that's what capitalism dictates it should do. But it doesn't. It relys on trade barriers to close out chinas influence and therefore prop up it's manufacturing economy.

Someone with a "background" in economics would have no problem recognizing that.

Your inability to follow a thought to a logical conclusion is laughable. "background in economics" if my memory serves me correctly, you also once claimed to go to an Ivy league school!

Thanks for the laughs bud. Originally Posted by shanm

And ME That's comedy gold I tells ya. He has NEVER been able to follow a though out to its logical conclusion or any other conclusion, for that matter.

Sham isn't wrong about Germany deciding to prop up its production. We buy over $400 Billion from the chinese every year. Capitalism in its purest form, dictates you go where the labor is cheap and the profits are greatest. Germany has decided they would like to tweak that a bit and keep some production and labor security within their own borders.

I knew Lustyretarded would be lurking around here somewhere, ready to hand out a couple of non-sequitur's based on one nitpicked line or the other.

But first, let's talk about this!





Captainmidnight: yes. ExNYer: maybe.....but YOU?

PLEEEASE lustytard, you are a fucking fraud. And a laughable one at that. You're amateurism shines through every time you post. If you didn't suck your own dick so much, maybe someone would take you seriously.

Funny you bring up the "GDP per capita" discussion. To my recollection, you had to pick your ass off the floor and "scoot" off the forum for a couple of days.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...world+currency


Pay attention Lustyretarded. I said "effectively barred". I could have used the word "banned"....if that's what I meant...Try to understand the reasoning in an argument before getting your panties bunched up in a wad

No, I chose those words for a reason. China and Germany are good trading partners, I won't deny that. but they're not like the U.S. In a free-market economy, which is what the U.S is, nearly all manufactured products would be imported from china. It's the simple theory of competitive advantage. I'm sure that since your "back" is "grounded" in economics, you have no problem recognizing that term.

The question is then, why does Germany still have one of the strongest manufacturing economies in the world? Why does it still export more than it imports?

Germany could as easily close it's manufacturing industry and take advantage of Chinas export economy. After all, that's what capitalism dictates it should do. But it doesn't. It relys on trade barriers to close out chinas influence and therefore prop up it's manufacturing economy.

Someone with a "background" in economics would have no problem recognizing that.

Your inability to follow a thought to a logical conclusion is laughable. "background in economics" if my memory serves me correctly, you also once claimed to go to an Ivy league school!

Thanks for the laughs bud. Originally Posted by shanm

You're an obnoxious and detestable little shit, aintcha? Your ignorance is exceeded only by your self-loathing. Deep down you know all those insults you load up your posts with each time you are exposed as a lying poseur apply to you in spades. You call me "laughable" - and then stumble like a fool claiming there is a semantic difference between "effectively barred" and "banned"! Hahaha, good one, cacahead! Give us another good laugh!

And you definitely must have studied economics long and hard if you are familiar with the "theory of competitive advantage". Oh wait - is it competitive advantage or comparative advantage? I wouldn't want a buzzword bozo like you to get it wrong again. Is the difference just a matter of semantics? Let's see... one of them has to do with the Smith-Ricardo model of how trade between nations can make everyone better off. The other has to do with Michael Porter's strategic analysis of how firms should position themselves within their industries. Looks like you got the two mixed up, shammyfraud - how embarrassing! Every time you ignore my advice to STFU on economic topics, you wind up proving your stupidity all over again!

Btw, Michael Porter is a Professor at Harvard Business School so I know you couldn't be referring to hIm. The only time you ever set foot on an Ivy League campus was to help your Pakistani mother collect the trash.

Here's a chance for you to fall flat on your fat pimply face again, dipshit. You say Germany "relys (sic) on trade barriers to close out chinas (sic) influence and prop up it's (sic) manufacturing economy." Tell us exactly what trade barriers you are referring to. Tariffs or other types? Are the barriers erected by Germany or by the EU? Which Chinese industries are being shut out of the German market and how much trade is being affected?

Let us know when you have answers, dickhead. You've got no lifelines left and reaching for buzzwords or semantics to wiggle your rat's ass out of the sewer will only make you look like a bigger idiot than you have demonstrated yourself to be already.

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You're an obnoxious and detestable little shit, aintcha? Your ignorance is exceeded only by your self-loathing. Deep down you know all those insults you load up your posts with each time you are exposed as a lying poseur apply to you in spades. You call me "laughable" - and then stumble like a fool claiming there is a semantic difference between "effectively barred" and "banned"! Hahaha, good one, cacahead! Give us another good laugh!


. Originally Posted by lustylad

Upped the font already lustytard? I was hoping it would take atleast a couple more posts before you starting frothing at the mouth all the way to a classic meltdown

Let me show you the difference between you and me:

I don't have to go and spend hours researching what I'm talking about. Sure, I used competitive advantage when I should have used comparative, but the context was pretty clear, and you understood what I implied (didn't you?). I could have googled it, and gotten the "semantics" right, as you like to call it. But no. I used the info in the back of my head. Comes with the education, you see. You wanna get hung up on the word, be my guest. Would kinda be like that one time you got hung up on "arbitrage". See here:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...world+currency

On the other hand, with you, we have golden nuggets like this:

one of them has to do with the Smith-Ricardo model of how trade between nations

NO ONE, outside of a professor in economics (which, lets be real, clearly you're not) keeps that info in the back of their head. I've heard of the model, yes. But I won't recall it instantaneously for no fucking reason.
So clearly, you spent the hours between my post and yours reading up all you could about "economics" (is that what you typed into google?"). Pathetically laughable, just like I said.

And ME That's comedy gold I tells ya. He has NEVER been able to follow a though out to its logical conclusion or any other conclusion, for that matter.

Sham isn't wrong about Germany deciding to prop up its production. We buy over $400 Billion from the chinese every year. Capitalism in its purest form, dictates you go where the labor is cheap and the profits are greatest. Germany has decided they would like to tweak that a bit and keep some production and labor security within their own borders. Originally Posted by WombRaider

LMFAO. You have no idea how much that made me laugh.

"and ME"!!!!

I used the info in the back of my head. Comes with the education, you see. Originally Posted by shanm

There you go with another typo - you left out the words "lack of" in front of "education". You're right, we're completely different. You are a sloppy, uneducated, vulgar moronic buffoon who pretends to have studied economics yet can't remember the names Adam Smith and David Ricardo, let alone explain their famous contributions to the discipline. And you can't even post on a hooker board without having your ass handed to you. Again and again and again. You even hand it to yourself by admitting you don't know Smith or Ricardo. The fact that you actually think I had to look up those names tells everyone who ever took Econ 101 what a fraud you are. And you obviously can't answer the questions I asked to back up your idiot claim that Chinese goods are "effectively barred" from being sold in Germany. So you lose, sewer rat. You're nothing but a sad, pathetic moronic buffoon whose posts are a complete waste of time except as a testament to the abject failure of the Houston education system.

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You're an obnoxious and detestable little shit, aintcha? Your ignorance is exceeded only by your self-loathing. Deep down you know all those insults you load up your posts with each time you are exposed as a lying poseur apply to you in spades. You call me "laughable" - and then stumble like a fool claiming there is a semantic difference between "effectively barred" and "banned"! Hahaha, good one, cacahead! Give us another good laugh!

And you definitely must have studied economics long and hard if you are familiar with the "theory of competitive advantage". Oh wait - is it competitive advantage or comparative advantage? I wouldn't want a buzzword bozo like you to get it wrong again. Is the difference just a matter of semantics? Let's see... one of them has to do with the Smith-Ricardo model of how trade between nations can make everyone better off. The other has to do with Michael Porter's strategic analysis of how firms should position themselves within their industries. Looks like you got the two mixed up, shammyfraud - how embarrassing! Every time you ignore my advice to STFU on economic topics, you wind up proving your stupidity all over again!

Btw, Michael Porter is a Professor at Harvard Business School so I know you couldn't be referring to hIm. The only time you ever set foot on an Ivy League campus was to help your Pakistani mother collect the trash.

Here's a chance for you to fall flat on your fat pimply face again, dipshit. You say Germany "relys (sic) on trade barriers to close out chinas (sic) influence and prop up it's (sic) manufacturing economy." Tell us exactly what trade barriers you are referring to. Tariffs or other types? Are the barriers erected by Germany or by the EU? Which Chinese industries are being shut out of the German market and how much trade is being affected?

Let us know when you have answers, dickhead. You've got no lifelines left and reaching for buzzwords or semantics to wiggle your rat's ass out of the sewer will only make you look like a bigger idiot than you have demonstrated yourself to be already.

. Originally Posted by lustylad

Here you go again, demanding answers. You don't demand shit from us, or haven't you understood that yet. We tell you what the fuck is goings on and then you shut the fuck up and listen. Go back to wikipedia and get your own answers, shit for brains. I nearly shit myself when you mentioned the two others and then added yourself in at third

Jesus Christ, that's some funny shit. You're the biggest joke on this board and the only person who doesn't know that already is YOU

There you go with another typo - you left out the words "lack of" in front of "education". You're right, we're completely different. You are a sloppy, uneducated, vulgar moronic buffoon who pretends to have studied economics yet can't remember the names Adam Smith and David Ricardo, let alone explain their famous contributions to the discipline. And you can't even post on a hooker board without having your ass handed to you. Again and again and again. You even hand it to yourself by admitting you don't know Smith or Ricardo. The fact that you actually think I had to look up those names tells everyone who ever took Econ 101 what a fraud you are. And you obviously can't answer the questions I asked to back up your idiot claim that Chinese goods are "effectively barred" from being sold in Germany. So you lose, sewer rat. You're nothing but a sad, pathetic moronic buffoon whose posts are a complete waste of time except as a testament to the abject failure of the Houston education system.

. Originally Posted by lustylad

You didn't quote sewer rat, dumbass. You can't even keep it straight about who you're talking to.

You go on and on about handing people their ass and I've yet to see it done. You're a sad, pathetic excuse for a man.

Here, let me summarize your entire argument in a couple of words: Capitalism good.
socialism bad.
Anything good that happens---->capitalism,
anything bad happens--->socialism.
God knows I didn't even read that drivel till the end because it's just the work of a delusional buffoon.

Again, your dumbass shines through. I am not defending communism. I specifically have mentioned that at least 4 times.

Typical knobhead. In your POV, socialism = taxes. It's the "boy, they don't have a 99% tax rate, they can't be socialist" attitude that just proves you're nothing more than an ignorant RW nut.

Let's review the facts:
universal healthcare.

free college education.

They've protected trade. One reason their export economy and manufacturing economy is still strong is because they've effectively barred trade with china.

Half the board members in any corporation are required to be workers representation (Mitbestimmung, look it up sonny).

I mean, are we living in fucking fantasy land?

Like I said, you have NO clue about what socialism is. If your idea of socialism is high taxation and gub'mint owning all the resources then you are a fucking fool, because THAT is communism NOT socialism. But hey, it's you we're talking about here.

On the flip side, let's review Pakistan. The country Exgirlfriend thinks is "socialist":

Has one of the most entrepreneurial economies in the world.
Resources are not owned by the government and you're free to start whatever business you want.
There is no provision of free healthcare.
There is no free college education.
The rich are rich, the poor are poor.

That's a pathetic argument, really. Any system that is fucked up, you refuse to accept it as capitalism, and instead keep blaming it on socialism. Your premise is failed from the start. Follows that the conclusion is equally retarded.

Facts are facts. Germany is a democratic nation with many socialist systems in place. It also has capitalistic tendencies in place. It's doing great as a country. In fact, the majority of Europe is the same way. Their economies are good or bad depending on their personal implementation, and not exactly "how much" socialism they use as opposed to capitalism.

Your original idea that "public safety" is more highly valued in a capitalist system is absolutely fucking retarded. I think even a child like IB could tell you that the safety of citizens is more important in socialist (not communist) economies. Anything that is made to "protect" you or me, is NOT capitalist. No one is making a profit on it. The police, firefighters you pick...all paid for by taxes and provided collectively with no profit motive in mind. Your argument is so childish I don't even know where to pick it apart from.

Healthcare has nothing to do with public safety....? Originally Posted by shanm

More bullshit.

My point about the American left defending communism as being a good idea, but implemented by bad people is a direct comparison to your making of the SAME argument for socialism. I never said they were the same system. Just pointing out how poor that argument is.

And Lustylad owned you on your dopey comment about Germany effectively barring trade with China.

You try to put Germany in the socialist camp, but you don't really define what socialism is. You just say that it is not communism.

Well, England was very socialist prior to Margaret Thatcher and England was a basket case. So why don't you point out the benefits of socialism and use 1970's England as an example.

Better yet, why don't you stick to the subject and explain how socialist countries are safer from pollution than capitalist countries.

More bullshit.

My point about the American left defending communism as being a good idea, but implemented by bad people is a direct comparison to your making of the SAME argument for socialism. I never said they were the same system. Just pointing out how poor that argument is.

And Lustylad owned you on your dopey comment about Germany effectively barring trade with China.

You try to put Germany in the socialist camp, but you don't really define what socialism is. You just say that it is not communism.

Well, England was very socialist prior to Margaret Thatcher and England was a basket case. So why don't you point out the benefits of socialism and use 1970's England as an example.

Better yet, why don't you stick to the subject and explain how socialist countries are safer from pollution than capitalist countries. Originally Posted by ExNYer

Yikes! ouch! yet another piff bamb boom!

More bullshit.

My point about the American left defending communism as being a good idea, but implemented by bad people is a direct comparison to your making of the SAME argument for socialism. I never said they were the same system. Just pointing out how poor that argument is.

And Lustylad owned you on your dopey comment about Germany effectively barring trade with China.

You try to put Germany in the socialist camp, but you don't really define what socialism is. You just say that it is not communism.

Well, England was very socialist prior to Margaret Thatcher and England was a basket case. So why don't you point out the benefits of socialism and use 1970's England as an example.

Better yet, why don't you stick to the subject and explain how socialist countries are safer from pollution than capitalist countries. Originally Posted by ExNYer

Carbon Dioxide emissions per year, biggest offenders:

China - Capitalist Economy http://www.cato.org/policy-report/ja...ame-capitalist

USA - Capitalist Economy

European Union - a third less than the entire USA, while having almost 60 percent more population.

You keep asking for an explanation of what socialism is, but the fact is, you wouldn't know it if it hit you in the face. All you know is what you've been told.

Here you go again, demanding answers. You don't demand shit from us, or haven't you understood that yet. We tell you what the fuck is goings (sic) on and then you shut the fuck up and listen. Go back to wikipedia and get your own answers, shit for brains. Originally Posted by WombRaider

You go on and on about handing people their ass and I've yet to see it done. Originally Posted by WombRaider

I would demonstrate (again) but you just showed (above) how to hand yourself your own ass by admitting you can't even answer the simplest questions.

You didn't quote sewer rat, dumbass. Originally Posted by WombRaider

I didn't? Sorry, but sometimes I have trouble telling you filthy rodents apart.... which one is you and which is shammyrat?

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I would demonstrate (again) but you just showed (above) how to hand yourself your own ass by admitting you can't even answer the simplest questions.






I didn't? Sorry, but sometimes I have trouble telling you filthy rodents apart.... which one is you and which is shammyrat?

. Originally Posted by lustylad

What the fuck is goings on, was on purpose, dumbass. I guess you don't speak ebonics, though.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=goings+on

Here you go again, demanding answers. You don't demand shit from us, or haven't you understood that yet. We tell you what the fuck is goings on and then you shut the fuck up and listen. Go back to wikipedia and get your own answers, shit for brains. I nearly shit myself when you mentioned the two others and then added yourself in at third

Jesus Christ, that's some funny shit. You're the biggest joke on this board and the only person who doesn't know that already is YOU Originally Posted by WombRaider

" .....GOINGS on....." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ! Is that like " thought " woomby ? !!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!! Or is that gonna be explained away as everyone ELSE not understanding " nuance " ? !!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA ! YOU sure better have someone doing your writing for you or proof reading your " articles for travel brochures " , 'cause YOU can't spell for shit EVEN WITH SPELL CHECK !!!!!! What dumb shit editor would buy YOUR misspelled spew ? Someone that YOU'VE blow to get the work ? Keep working those llabios y tu culo at the 'holes pobrecita puta, 'cause it's ALL you've got keeping you from standing on the street corners with a sign saying , in Arkansas-ese, " Will Suck Fer Food " !!!!!