I don't think the American people are that stupid. Originally Posted by HedonistForever62 Million of them voted for Trump and likely will again. I think that proves they are more stupid than you believe.
- 1blackman1
- 09-22-2020, 07:02 PM
- 1blackman1
- 09-22-2020, 07:04 PM
- The_Waco_Kid
- 09-22-2020, 07:14 PM
62 Million of them voted for Trump and likely will again. I think that proves they are more stupid than you believe. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
proves to you.
Quote where I said that. Oh, yeah, you are just making an asinine assumption as to what I think. Or you are just making shit up as usual. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
prove it helps.
- HedonistForever
- 09-22-2020, 08:04 PM
Quote where I said that. Oh, yeah, you are just making an asinine assumption as to what I think. Or you are just making shit up as usual. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
My apologies,so you don't believe doing all those things will help Black people? Then why would you be so anxious to get them in place?
Even Democrats believe that to institute the Green New Deal would mean higher energy prices. How would higher energy prices help Black people? How will higher taxes on corporations lead to lower un-employment?
I'm merely asking you how all those things will help Black people but I guess I failed to understand that you really don't care about Black people, you only care about defeating Trump no matter what.
- Cherie
- 09-22-2020, 08:05 PM
- HedonistForever
- 09-22-2020, 08:15 PM
- The_Waco_Kid
- 09-22-2020, 08:16 PM
Straight from the horses mouth;
https://twitter.com/Liz_Wheeler/stat...983626752?s=20 Originally Posted by Cherie
Amy Klobuchar said the same thing ... yesterday
https://twitter.com/amyklobuchar/sta...49561240813569
Amy Klobuchar
@amyklobuchar
The people pick the President; the President nominates the Justice. That is how it works.
Yes Amy .. that's exactly how it works .. who knew??
BAHHAHHAHAAAAA
- HedonistForever
- 09-22-2020, 08:19 PM
Democrats are saying that the Republican Senate failed to even consider Merrick Garland. Not True. If Mitch McConnell counted the votes and found that the votes were not there to confirm, he saved everybody the time and Garland the embarrassment of being voted down. There is nothing in the Constitution that says the Senate must hold a hearing it says that they shall advise and consent and there was no consent so why hold a hearing?
- 1blackman1
- 09-22-2020, 10:10 PM
- The_Waco_Kid
- 09-22-2020, 10:14 PM
- 1blackman1
- 09-22-2020, 10:16 PM
Democrats are saying that the Republican Senate failed to even consider Merrick Garland. Not True. If Mitch McConnell counted the votes and found that the votes were not there to confirm, he saved everybody the time and Garland the embarrassment of being voted down. There is nothing in the Constitution that says the Senate must hold a hearing it says that they shall advise and consent and there was no consent so why hold a hearing? Originally Posted by HedonistForeverBullshit.
Creating a revisionist history I see. Just making shit up again.
The truth is that Mitch said if Hillary won he”d take up whomever she chose. Garland would have been confirmed had he been taken up. Mitch just wanted to roll the dice on possibly blocking a Dem nomination.
It’s all good though. I’m cool with Mitch doing exactly what he’s doing. Now if the Dems take control they can drive an agenda through that will sit until the Republicans can take both branches which will take years. After the current Repubs sycophantic following of Trump it’ll be 3-4 cycles before they can take both houses and the presidency.
- winn dixie
- 09-22-2020, 10:29 PM
Bullshit.blah blah blah
Creating a revisionist history I see. Just making shit up again.
The truth is that Mitch said if Hillary won he”d take up whomever she chose. Garland would have been confirmed had he been taken up. Mitch just wanted to roll the dice on possibly blocking a Dem nomination.
It’s all good though. I’m cool with Mitch doing exactly what he’s doing. Now if the Dems take control they can drive an agenda through that will sit until the Republicans can take both branches which will take years. After the current Repubs sycophantic following of Trump it’ll be 3-4 cycles before they can take both houses and the presidency. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
- The_Waco_Kid
- 09-22-2020, 10:48 PM
Bullshit.
Creating a revisionist history I see. Just making shit up again.
The truth is that Mitch said if Hillary won he”d take up whomever she chose. Garland would have been confirmed had he been taken up. Mitch just wanted to roll the dice on possibly blocking a Dem nomination.
It’s all good though. I’m cool with Mitch doing exactly what he’s doing. Now if the Dems take control they can drive an agenda through that will sit until the Republicans can take both branches which will take years. After the current Repubs sycophantic following of Trump it’ll be 3-4 cycles before they can take both houses and the presidency. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
if you say so
https://www.npr.org/2016/11/03/50056...court-nominees
With just days until the election, some Senate Republicans are suggesting that when it comes to the Supreme Court, eight is enough. Eight justices, that is.
For the first time, some Senate Republicans are saying that if Hillary Clinton is elected, the GOP should prevent anyone she nominates from being confirmed to fill the current court vacancy, or any future vacancy.
The pronouncements are such a break with history and tradition that they often provoke the response, "Really?" Some see such statements as little more than an attempt to motivate the Republican base to get out and vote. Others, however, see the trend as a further deterioration of American institutions of government.
Of course, a genuine and continued GOP blockade could backfire, too. It could make Republicans look like irresponsible, petty political obstructionists.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has not gone so far as to embrace a permanent blockade if Clinton is elected, but he set in motion the idea back in February.
Hours after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia was announced, McConnell issued a statement declaring that Republicans, who currently control the Senate, would block action on any Obama nominee. McConnell said the American people should have a voice in the selection and that filling the slot would be left to the next president.
Weeks later, President Obama made what he conceded was something of a compromise choice. He nominated the man Republicans for years had been suggesting as an acceptable Democratic pick, Merrick Garland, the chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. The olive branch didn't work.
While the GOP blockade drew strong disapproval in public opinion polls, the majority leader held his troops in line, and this summer Garland broke the record set by Justice Louis Brandeis a century ago for the longest wait by a nominee to the court. Brandeis waited 125 days from nomination to confirmation, with much of the opposition based on his Jewish religion. Garland is at 232 days and counting.
Now some Republicans are suggesting the wait for Scalia's replacement could last much longer, perhaps an entire presidential term, or two. Three Republican senators have said directly that they would consider leaving Scalia's seat empty as long as Clinton is in office.
Sen. John McCain was the first. Appearing on a conservative radio talk show, he said that if Clinton is elected, "I promise you that we will be united against any Supreme Court nominee [that] she would put up." His press secretary quickly tried to backpedal, but McCain himself has not.
Since then, Sens. Ted Cruz and Richard Burr have upped the ante, while other Republican senators have dodged and weaved on the question. The Senate's No. 2 Republican, Texas Sen. John Cornyn, said he didn't want to "speculate" on the question.
But Burr, in a tough re-election battle in North Carolina, said in a tape-recorded meeting with Republican volunteers last weekend, "If Hillary becomes president, I am going to do everything I can do to make sure four years from now, we still got an opening on the Supreme Court."
As for Cruz, he suggested there is nothing sacrosanct about having nine justices. For support, he pointed to a statement made by Justice Stephen Breyer during an interview in which Breyer noted that the court has historically functioned with as few as five or six justices.
Breyer's friends say the justice was mortified to see his historical observation used for political purposes, though he has not commented publicly on Cruz's statement.
It is true that the number of justices fluctuated in the early days of the republic. But the country has lived with a nine-justice court since that number was established by law almost 150 years ago; indeed, when President Franklin Roosevelt tried to expand the number with his infamous court-packing plan, he suffered a major political defeat that had repercussions throughout his presidency.
The Supreme Court's fate will turn on the result of the upcoming general election. If Donald Trump wins the presidency, these "what ifs" are likely moot, unless the Democrats win control of the Senate and decide to adopt the GOP tactics.
If Clinton wins and the Democrats take control of the Senate, they most likely would change the filibuster rule, as they did for lower court judges earlier in 2013, and then any nominee could be confirmed by a simple majority vote, not the 60 votes required to break a filibuster.
But if Clinton wins, and Republicans still control the Senate, the battle will continue, with unclear results, even if she renominates Garland.
Some Republicans, like Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, have conceded that they "cannot stonewall forever." But Republicans in Senate races, like Pennsylvania's Pat Toomey and Nevada's Joe Heck, have been using the Supreme Court to court conservative voters.
The technique used by a number of prominent Republican senators has been to say they would be willing to consider a Clinton nominee, but not really.
Florida's Marco Rubio said he opposed a blockade in principle, but then said he thought it unlikely that Clinton would nominate anyone who shared his view of the court sufficiently for him to vote to confirm.
That thought was echoed by Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky. "I can't imagine voting for a Clinton nominee unless she would appoint somebody that actually ... believes in the separation of powers as the Founders wrote into the Constitution, " he said.
For now, the Supreme Court fight centers on a court of eight that on some major issues has been divided 4-4, a tie that leaves often conflicting lower court decisions in place.
But the current vacancy may not be the only one. Retirement, health problems — or death — might well claim any of the court's older justices.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, appointed by President Bill Clinton, is now 83. Justice Anthony Kennedy, a Reagan appointee, is 80, and Justice Breyer, also appointed by Bill Clinton, is 78.
Several justices, including Justices Ginsburg, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, all Democratic appointees, have made remarks suggesting that the longer the court remains short of nine justices, the more problematic it will be to resolve legal questions nationally.
Justice Clarence Thomas, the court's most conservative justice, said in an interview at the conservative Heritage Foundation last week, "This city is broken in some ways. ... We have decided that rather than confront the disagreements and the differences of opinion, we'll simply annihilate the person who disagrees with us." He expressed concern that "we're undermining our institutions, and the day is going to come when we need the institutions and the integrity of the institutions."
So .. you'll be posting that quote by Mitch any moment now right? we'll wait
- eccieuser9500
- 09-22-2020, 11:03 PM
if you say so
Justice Clarence Thomas, the court's most conservative justice, said in an interview at the conservative Heritage Foundation last week, "This city is broken in some ways. ... We have decided that rather than confront the disagreements and the differences of opinion, we'll simply annihilate the person who disagrees with us." He expressed concern that "we're undermining our institutions, and the day is going to come when we need the institutions and the integrity of the institutions." Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
How to end racism:
- The_Waco_Kid
- 09-22-2020, 11:07 PM