Texas Sues Four States in SCOTUS

You do realize that nonsense has been shown false?

. Originally Posted by WTF

only one thing has been shown "false"

and I say that without first hand knowledge of even that

and it is the use of the term suitcase

the cases in the video certainly look like those pull along suitcases on rollers used at airports but I wont argue the point that they may have been designed to use for ballots and not for suits

they certainly did jump right on that word with pride as if it was determinative of anything

do you feel better now?

but nothing else implied or inherent in lexus' question has even remotely been shown to be false

only one thing has been shown "false"

and I say that without first hand knowledge of even that

and it is the use of the term suitcase

the cases in the video certainly look like those pull along suitcases on rollers used at airports but I wont argue the point that they may have been designed to use for ballots and not for suits

they certainly did jump right on that word with pride as if it was determinative of anything

do you feel better now?

but nothing else implied or inherent in lexus' question has even remotely been shown to be false Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

So you rate it as “Half Proven?”

We rate it



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

So you rate it as “Half Proven?”

We rate it



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

at times you adopt a certain level of humanness

you could be a candidate for conversion (to truth) therapy

only one thing has been shown "false"

and I say that without first hand knowledge of even that

and it is the use of the term suitcase

the cases in the video certainly look like those pull along suitcases on rollers used at airports but I wont argue the point that they may have been designed to use for ballots and not for suits

they certainly did jump right on that word with pride as if it was determinative of anything

do you feel better now?

but nothing else implied or inherent in lexus' question has even remotely been shown to be false Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Are you a fucking imbecile? It has been debunked and debunked.



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Georgia officials debunk 'secret ballot suitcase' claim; to re-certify results for Biden
SUSAN MCCORD | AUGUSTA CHRONICLE | 12:29 pm EST December 7, 2020

The “secret suitcase with magic ballots” was actually a bag of ballots packed because Fulton County election workers thought they were going home on election night, according to a top Georgia election official.


Georgia Election System Implementation Manager Gabriel Sterling.
Georgia Election System Implementation Manager Gabriel Sterling.
FILE/STAFF
Monday, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced the state would recertify state election results as after the recount demanded by President Trump.

“We have now counted legally-cast ballots three times, and the results remain unchanged,” Raffensperger said.

One of a handful of state Republican officials to openly reject President Trump’s claim of widespread vote fraud in the Nov. 3 election, Raffensperger said the continued focus on the allegations by Trump and his supporters was harming the state’s reputation.


More: Georgia election-fraud lawsuit dismissed, presidential election results set for second certification

“Continuing to make debunked claims of a stolen election is hurting our state,” he said at a Monday news conference. “Disinformation regarding election administration should be condemned and rejected.”

Gabriel Sterling, election system implementation manager, said attorneys for President Trump chose to mislead the public last week when they presented parts of a video they said showed workers counting retrieved from under a table after observers were sent home.

“What’s really frustrating is the president’s attorneys had this same videotape; they saw the exact same thing that the rest of us could see, and they chose to mislead state senators and the public about what was on that video,” Sterling said.


“They knew it was untrue and they continue to do things like this,” he said.

In what he termed “Disinformation Monday,” Sterling said he and state-certified law enforcement officers spent hours reviewing the video of ballot counting at State Farm Arena and found no wrongdoing.

“What you saw - the secret suitcase with magic ballots - were actually ballots that had been packed into those absentee ballot carriers by the workers in the plain view of the monitors and the press,” he said.

The reason the workers packed the ballots is they thought they were stopping for the day, Sterling said.

“They were under the misbegotten impression that they were getting to go home,” he said. “They had been there all day long. They were tired and they thought they could go home.”

you post unsubstantiated self serving hogwash that makes no dent in the evidence

the evidence of the sworn affidavits speaking about what had happened that very night, given well before the video surfaced

the evidence on the video that lines up perfectly with those previously given affidavits and the claims in those affidavits

the reports, made at the time, that very night, by news media that substantiate the affidavits concerning hustling the observers out with claims of shutting down for the night and a water main leak that never happened

the evidence of the video showing what certainly looks like repeated counting of the same ballots

questions presented by the video as to why those officials dropped what they were working on and went to the hidden cases of ballots as soon as they were alone

those are only things I can see

experts and others with time and the correct equipment can dissect that video further

and the affidavits have never been assailed or proven false, nor has the illegal counting of illegal ballots without signature verification

nor has the pristine nature of ballots supposedly mailed or placed in drop boxes' supposedly in envelopes which would necessitate creasing, been addressed, ballots that had no creases as sworn to in affidavits

and that's to not even discuss the specifically identified illegal votes of many different types well in excess of the vote difference

and the strange spike in the vote for biden occurring at that very late night time frame

and what could have caused biden to out pace the leftist senate candidate by 100,000 votes when trump and the republican senate candidate had virtually the same vote count

or all the mathematical and statistical oddities and improbabilities and virtual impossibilities

and if lil old me, laying on a hammock inside a screened in porch in the middle of nowhere can come up with that...well it just goes to show you have to want to pay attention

you post unsubstantiated self serving hogwash that makes no dent in the evidence

the evidence of the sworn affidavits speaking about what had happened that very night, given well before the video surfaced

the evidence on the video that lines up perfectly with those previously given affidavits and the claims in those affidavits

the reports, made at the time, that very night, by news media that substantiate the affidavits concerning hustling the observers out with claims of shutting down for the night and a water main leak that never happened

the evidence of the video showing what certainly looks like repeated counting of the same ballots

questions presented by the video as to why those officials dropped what they were working on and went to the hidden cases of ballots as soon as they were alone

those are only things I can see

experts and others with time and the correct equipment can dissect that video further

and the affidavits have never been assailed or proven false, nor has the illegal counting of illegal ballots without signature verification

nor has the pristine nature of ballots supposedly mailed or placed in drop boxes' supposedly in envelopes which would necessitate creasing, been addressed, ballots that had no creases as sworn to in affidavits

and that's to not even discuss the specifically identified illegal votes of many different types well in excess of the vote difference

and the strange spike in the vote for biden occurring at that very late night time frame

and what could have caused biden to out pace the leftist senate candidate by 100,000 votes when trump and the republican senate candidate had virtually the same vote count

or all the mathematical and statistical oddities and improbabilities and virtual impossibilities

and if lil old me, laying on a hammock inside a screened in porch in the middle of nowhere can come up with that...well it just goes to show you have to want to pay attention Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Or one simply does not care which we are reminded of here everyday. Add to that, one would have to be paying attention to Fox news or other publications like the New York Post to even know what is being discussed and that ain't about to happen with this bunch.


So let's review, MSM wrong about Russia / Trump conspiracy to interfere in the election.


MSM wrong about spying on Trump campaign.


MSM wrong about FISA abuse.


Rather than wear my fingers to the bone continuing the list, let me just say that everything the MSM has reported for 4 years was wrong, period.

you post unsubstantiated self serving hogwash that makes no dent in the evidence

the evidence of the sworn affidavits speaking about what had happened that very night, given well before the video surfaced

the evidence on the video that lines up perfectly with those previously given affidavits and the claims in those affidavits

the reports, made at the time, that very night, by news media that substantiate the affidavits concerning hustling the observers out with claims of shutting down for the night and a water main leak that never happened

the evidence of the video showing what certainly looks like repeated counting of the same ballots

questions presented by the video as to why those officials dropped what they were working on and went to the hidden cases of ballots as soon as they were alone

those are only things I can see

experts and others with time and the correct equipment can dissect that video further

and the affidavits have never been assailed or proven false, nor has the illegal counting of illegal ballots without signature verification

nor has the pristine nature of ballots supposedly mailed or placed in drop boxes' supposedly in envelopes which would necessitate creasing, been addressed, ballots that had no creases as sworn to in affidavits

and that's to not even discuss the specifically identified illegal votes of many different types well in excess of the vote difference

and the strange spike in the vote for biden occurring at that very late night time frame

and what could have caused biden to out pace the leftist senate candidate by 100,000 votes when trump and the republican senate candidate had virtually the same vote count

or all the mathematical and statistical oddities and improbabilities and virtual impossibilities

and if lil old me, laying on a hammock inside a screened in porch in the middle of nowhere can come up with that...well it just goes to show you have to want to pay attention Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

You deserve credit for not bringing up the two biggest complaints by the anti-Raffensperger crowd, which are easily debunked --

1. Signatures should be audited. They can't be. The signatures were on the envelopes and the envelopes have been separated from the ballots. In the United States of America, unlike some totalitarian countries, we don't keep a record of how individuals voted so they can be imprisoned if they supported the opposition.

2. The Dominion machines were rigged. It's very difficult to see how that could be when they generated paper ballots, which voters could examine prior to scanning. And the hand recounts closely agreed with the original counts from the scanners.

Some of the points you bring up may be valid, but what can be done about them now? First, it's unlikely they affected enough votes to have changed Georgia results and impossible they would change the results of the national election. You have small-scale, real or imagined fraud in precincts that voted for Biden. You can't throw out all the votes in those precincts and disenfranchise tens or hundreds of thousands voters, and then allow the party controlling the state legislature to allocate the electoral votes. It's not American. It's not Democratic.

If indeed there were cheating in Georgia, and it it were predominately in Democratic leaning precincts, then you can blame it on the state Republican Party. It should have had poll watchers and safeguards in place to ensure the integrity of the election.

As to "and what could have caused biden to out pace the leftist senate candidate by 100,000 votes when trump and the republican senate candidate had virtually the same vote count," I'm surprised the Republican senatorial candidate, Perdue, didn't get even more votes than Trump. Apparently there weren't so many people like me out there, who didn't vote for Trump but voted for Republicans down ballot.

You deserve credit for not bringing up the two biggest complaints by the anti-Raffensperger crowd, which are easily debunked --

1. Signatures should be audited. They can't be. The signatures were on the envelopes and the envelopes have been separated from the ballots. In the United States of America, unlike some totalitarian countries, we don't keep a record of how individuals voted so they can be imprisoned if they supported the opposition.

2. The Dominion machines were rigged. It's very difficult to see how that could be when they generated paper ballots, which voters could examine prior to scanning. And the hand recounts closely agreed with the original counts from the scanners.

Some of the points you bring up may be valid, but what can be done about them now? First, it's unlikely they affected enough votes to have changed Georgia results and impossible they would change the results of the national election. You have small-scale, real or imagined fraud in precincts that voted for Biden. You can't throw out all the votes in those precincts and disenfranchise tens or hundreds of thousands voters, and then allow the party controlling the state legislature to allocate the electoral votes. It's not American. It's not Democratic.

If indeed there were cheating in Georgia, and it it were predominately in Democratic leaning precincts, then you can blame it on the state Republican Party. It should have had poll watchers and safeguards in place to ensure the integrity of the election.

As to "and what could have caused biden to out pace the leftist senate candidate by 100,000 votes when trump and the republican senate candidate had virtually the same vote count," I'm surprised the Republican senatorial candidate, Perdue, didn't get even more votes than Trump. Apparently there weren't so many people like me out there, who didn't vote for Trump but voted for Republicans down ballot. Originally Posted by Tiny

+1

Good job Tiny. Plus there is nothing with those alleged suit cases of ballots hidden under a table that Hannity kept crying about.

The electoral college votes for Georgia and Penn will stand. You can take that to the Bank.

SC says “Texas has no standing”. All motions dismissed.

That a nice way of saying GO FUCK YOURSELF DONNIE!

SC says “Texas has no standing”. All motions dismissed. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

+1

Thanks for the update 1B1. This is a great day for America! To the Trump worshipers the ballgame is over now!.

SC says “Texas has no standing”. All motions dismissed. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

I can't wait to hear neverhadabrain excuse for yet another court loss.

I'm sure he is waiting on stage advice from TrumptyDumpty to parrot.

Even the Conservative loaded SCOTUS saw through the BS.

On January 20, 2021 Joseph Robinette Biden will take the Oath of Office and be sworn in as the 46th POTUS. Trump may or may not attend the swearing in.

You deserve credit for not bringing up the two biggest complaints by the anti-Raffensperger crowd, which are easily debunked --

1. Signatures should be audited. They can't be. The signatures were on the envelopes and the envelopes have been separated from the ballots. In the United States of America, unlike some totalitarian countries, we don't keep a record of how individuals voted so they can be imprisoned if they supported the opposition.


I'm not going to claim to know the individual laws in individual states but here in Florida, I'm assured that my signature is going to be checked one way or another and if I ask them to let me know as soon as my signature has been confirmed, they will and they did. So obviously, unless I'm completely wrong about what I think just happened here in Florida, it can be done. One way or another Florida state law, as I understand it, requires the signature on your vote, be that the inner or outer envelope, must be compared to a signature on record. It is recognized by all reasonable people as a security step no different than proving at the airport before you get on a plane, that you are who you say you are. The only way to do that if the person isn't standing in front of you with a passport, is comparing a signature on record to a signature on the ballot.


That also doesn't mean "that" information of who you voted for, need be kept. It only has to be a record that a signature was checked on this ballot and no other information is required to keep. That a signature connected to this legal ballot, that shall remain anonymous for the purpose of this election.


2. The Dominion machines were rigged. It's very difficult to see how that could be when they generated paper ballots, which voters could examine prior to scanning. And the hand recounts closely agreed with the original counts from the scanners.


I don't understand your thinking here. If the machines were "manipulated" previously to alter results which seems to be the case and was the whole reason Warren and Klobacher were warning about their use, why couldn't the machine be programmed to produce a false paper ballot? I'm not saying this happened. I'm only saying that once I have heard that this machine has been manipulated previously to spin out false votes, I'd like someone to say that can't happen now because of x,y,z. I'm not going to assume that a previously manipulated machine can't still be manipulated even if it sounds "too complicated" to do. These machines will do what ever you tell them to do was the broader point when all this started long before this election.

Some of the points you bring up may be valid, but what can be done about them now?

Maybe nothing that will change the outcome of this election but is that all we care about? If we know there were irregularities and there where, and they are well documented, shouldn't we attempt to change whatever needs changing so it doesn't happen again?


First, it's unlikely they affected enough votes to have changed Georgia results and impossible they would change the results of the national election.


Unless the problem was systemic and how would you know that if you didn't look? What if it had been the machines and the software and a real significant problem was found in one state and we know those machines and that software were used in multiple states. We shouldn't look into that, at all just because a Republican alleged it? That was kind of the whole purpose of the Texas case, a brilliant strategy if it had worked but as of now, it hasn't since the SC rejected the Texas case. But oh! if Texas had won, and somehow the Court ruled that the only relief, would be to allow the State Legislature to pick the electors and theoretically, there would be enough in those states picked, to give the election to Trump. Can you imagine the shitstorm, which is why I figured the SC wouldn't take up the case. As a matter of fact, the case was rejected for "standing" and something called


"Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections," the court said in a brief unsigned opinion.
Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito said the court had no authority to refuse a case filed on its original docket, where one state files to sue another. But they said the would not have granted Texas any other relief and expressed no view on any of the issues raised in the lawsuit.
So the ruling was essentially a unanimous rejection of the Texas claims.

Cognizable

The adjective "cognizable" has two distinct (and unrelated) applications within the field of law. A cognizable claim or controversy is one that meets the basic criteria of viability for being tried or adjudicated before a particular tribunal. The term means that the claim or controversy is within the power or jurisdiction of a particular court to adjudicate.


So, is the SC saying "why are you bring this to us"?

You have small-scale, real or imagined fraud in precincts that voted for Biden. You can't throw out all the votes in those precincts and disenfranchise tens or hundreds of thousands voters, and then allow the party controlling the state legislature to allocate the electoral votes. It's not American. It's not Democratic.

Then it wouldn't be in the Constitution as a solution to the problem.


https://constitutioncenter.org/inter...ii/clauses/350

Under the further original provisions of Article II, Electors cast ballots not for one candidate for president but for two, with the second-place finisher becoming vice-president. No one originally expected that there would be national parties that nominated candidates and slated a ticket for president and vice-president.

The strange two-vote feature nevertheless led almost immediately to a serious political crisis in the election of 1800 when Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson defeated Federalist John Adams 73-65 in the Electoral College but then tied his own nominal running mate, Aaron Burr, 73-73.

The mischievous Burr refused to stand down in the face of this embarrassing constitutional glitch, thus throwing the process into the U.S. House of Representatives under the so-called “contingent election” procedures in which each state’s U.S. House of Representatives delegation casts a single vote for president and the winner of the majority becomes president.

The resulting contingent election in the House became a nightmare of its own when the lame-duck Federalist-controlled Congress took an exhausting six days and 36 ballots to choose Jefferson, who the Federalists ultimately considered the lesser of two evils.

If indeed there were cheating in Georgia, and it it were predominately in Democratic leaning precincts, then you can blame it on the state Republican Party. It should have had poll watchers and safeguards in place to ensure the integrity of the election.


That's why Governor Kemp in Georgia is taking such a beating. This happened under his watch and he is to blame


As to "and what could have caused biden to out pace the leftist senate candidate by 100,000 votes when trump and the republican senate candidate had virtually the same vote count," I'm surprised the Republican senatorial candidate, Perdue, didn't get even more votes than Trump. Apparently there weren't so many people like me out there, who didn't vote for Trump but voted for Republicans down ballot. Originally Posted by Tiny

I guess the words manipulated and rigged get tossed into the ring