Drama, Highly Vocal posters, Disrespect, Trash Talk?... Why do YOU perceive ECCIE to not be a "friendly" place?

You asked why we perceived eccie to be unfriendly, we gave you our answers, but now it's considered whining? What the fuck did you want us to say?

You asked why we perceived eccie to be unfriendly, we gave you our answers, but now it's considered whining? What the fuck did you want us to say? Originally Posted by CRamsey

I think it was a more direct question for the ladies....Well maybe all the whiners are ladies IDK.....

Just kinda of touchy in this thread. Kinda reads like an estrogen ozone....

Maybe Whispers is right and you are trying to look like you are looking out for the providers to get a pat on the head.....Or the little head at no extra charge.

You asked why we perceived eccie to be unfriendly, we gave you our answers, but now it's considered whining? What the fuck did you want us to say? Originally Posted by CRamsey

120 CoED Threads since November 1st.....

Remove the Party oriented threads

And I have posts in only 19 threads.....

About the only controversy I've engaged in has been related to the Marco/RisqueBB and BBFS threads where I was firmly on the side of what was best for this community..... I don't think anyone really has an issue with me over the positions I took on those subjects.


Go back another 5 months and I would bet that I participate in less than 15% of the topics presented in CoEd and i get opposite and confrontational with others in less than 5% of them.....

Yet you want to lay the blame on me for the board being unfriendly?

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I admit to not having the courage to write my thoughts here. I tried about 4 different ways and in none of them was I eloquent enough to convey a well-structured argument that wouldn't entail engaging in a tedious back-and-forth.

See there, I just tried it again and deleted it again.

And a sixth time. I'm not kidding.

'Whispers is sometimes unnecessarily mean.' is all I'm going to say.

120 CoED Threads since November 1st.....

Remove the Party oriented threads

And I have posts in only 19 threads.....

About the only controversy I've engaged in has been related to the Marco/RisqueBB and BBFS threads where I was firmly on the side of what was best for this community..... I don't think anyone really has an issue with me over the positions I took on those subjects.


Go back another 5 months and I would bet that I participate in less than 15% of the topics presented in CoEd and i get opposite and confrontational with others in less than 5% of them.....

Yet you want to lay the blame on me for the board being unfriendly?

` Originally Posted by Whispers

Your doing your own math. But for the sake of argument, lets just use this thread. 2 providers chimed in. One pro, one con. you brought up her picture and showcase accuracy instead of debating her opinion.

So either all the other providers and mongers think that this is a non issue and co-ed is plenty friendly so aren't posting...

Or they are avoiding any backlashing by simply reading and moving along.

take your pick

So either all the other providers and mongers think that this is a non issue and co-ed is plenty friendly so aren't posting...

Or they are avoiding any backlashing by simply reading and moving along.

take your pick Originally Posted by budman33

For the most part, the only people who are in this thread backing up Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach...are Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach...and the sad part is these guys can't even see the irony of it all...it's like listening to Ted Bundy tell the court he is innocent of all charges. When I read how Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach are trying to rationalize their God awful behavior, I just have to laugh out loud. I mean, even Whispers will tell you that he is feigning niceties for the Holiday Season and assures us he will go back to his old ways after the new year...which is nothing short of an admission of guilt.

Even more pathetic is that in this very thread where they "claim" to be nice guys, they are here questioning the male posters manhood and questioning the level of testosterone the male posters have, and even calling you men "ladies" because you are not "man enough" to disrespect men and women who they do not like on this board...funny huh? Not really...it's sad.

The lamest part? Is how Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach and others will accuse men of being White Khights for the girls, but they fail to see that many of their provider supporters and men who support them are just that...White Knights. Any provider supporting these mean people are only doing it because they want their business and money. The men who support them fear to speak up because they want to be invited to the Socials that Whispers likes to throw in order to take the heat off his childish actions. The lurkers fear to speak up because of the retribution they will suffer at the hands of these people with nothing else to do with their lives but to post here. The providers who support them just want to be invited to the Socials so that they can get more business. If they speak up? Then they aren't invited. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how things are, and it's really quite easy to see the Mode of Operation that Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach and the rest are using...and it has been working for them.

The bottom line is this...why is it that you boys can't be nice? Do you REALLY think you are more of a man when you act like a child?

For the most part, the only people who are in this thread backing up Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach...are Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach...and the sad part is these guys can't even see the irony of it all...it's like listening to Ted Bundy tell the court he is innocent of all charges. When I read how Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach are trying to rationalize their God awful behavior, I just have to laugh out loud. I mean, even Whispers will tell you that he is feigning niceties for the Holiday Season and assures us he will go back to his old ways after the new year...which is nothing short of an admission of guilt.

Even more pathetic is that in this very thread where they "claim" to be nice guys, they are here questioning the male posters manhood and questioning the level of testosterone the male posters have, and even calling you men "ladies" because you are not "man enough" to disrespect men and women who they do not like on this board...funny huh? Not really...it's sad.

The lamest part? Is how Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach and others will accuse men of being White Khights for the girls, but they fail to see that many of their provider supporters and men who support them are just that...White Knights. Any provider supporting these mean people are only doing it because they want their business and money. The men who support them fear to speak up because they want to be invited to the Socials that Whispers likes to throw in order to take the heat off his childish actions. The lurkers fear to speak up because of the retribution they will suffer at the hands of these people with nothing else to do with their lives but to post here. The providers who support them just want to be invited to the Socials so that they can get more business. If they speak up? Then they aren't invited. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how things are, and it's really quite easy to see the Mode of Operation that Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach and the rest are using...and it has been working for them.

The bottom line is this...why is it that you boys can't be nice? Do you REALLY think you are more of a man when you act like a child? Originally Posted by Ivory

Definately a pot/kettle thing here. Your one of the quickest ladies to go mean or lashy in post I've read from the past so I don't think you have much credibility here.

Add me to the list backing up Whispers, and I've never been to one of his parties or met the guy other than his personae here online. But, I've been around this and previous iterations of this community to see that he has fostered open honest discussions on things that should be talked about IMHO. Just remember, the only one responsible for your feelings and your reaction to something is you yourself. And I'd put good money down betting that a majority of those who have a problem with the tone here are either trying to protect a cash flow, a pussy flow, or playing white knight.

Me? I am just a Teddy Bear!
And as such make terrible back up in a fight!

I can say my opinion though.
I do not find "Whispers" posts to be mean spirited.
I say posts because I don't know the man just his posts here on this media.

I do find his post to be an unfiltered expression of his thoughts.

Is that mean?

When he calls out a provider for lying about her age for at least 4 or 5 years is that mean?
I don't know. I mean its a fantasy board and in her head she is 25 so there is that.

I stay utr as much as possible but I have noticed Whispers as a giver.
I dont go to them but he organizes and host social events and charity functions.
Maybe he has secret sinister motives. And then maybe NOT.

Maybe being a liar is worse then being mean (or frank if you prefer)

I do think that peeps should filter what they say in response to a review.
I think the time for you to express your opinion about a provider is in you OWN review.

I think " Opinions are like assholes" Everyone has one and most of them stink!
Except Reya Sunshine.. she poops Butterflies and how can you have stinky Butterflies?

Your doing your own math. But for the sake of argument, lets just use this thread. 2 providers chimed in. One pro, one con. you brought up her picture and showcase accuracy instead of debating her opinion. Originally Posted by budman33

Yes, let's take this thread as an example. While it's apparent to you that he brings up her false advertising and age, it's not so obvious that she took a swipe at him first by speculating something about him that has since been edited out because it's against the rules?

I'm often amazed by how many people have slapped blinders on that says that Whispers is the one insulting everyone, yet I see many more in (other threads as well as) this thread taking pot shots. Go back, seriously. Ignore which side of this argument they are on and count who insults whom. Ignore which side of the argument they are on and see who takes a shot first.

For the most part, the only people who are in this thread backing up Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach...are Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach...and the sad part is these guys can't even see the irony of it all...it's like listening to Ted Bundy tell the court he is innocent of all charges. When I read how Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach are trying to rationalize their God awful behavior, I just have to laugh out loud. I mean, even Whispers will tell you that he is feigning niceties for the Holiday Season and assures us he will go back to his old ways after the new year...which is nothing short of an admission of guilt. Originally Posted by Ivory

Admission of being nice is admission that you're awful rest of the time? That really is some logic.

Even more pathetic is that in this very thread where they "claim" to be nice guys, they are here questioning the male posters manhood and questioning the level of testosterone the male posters have, and even calling you men "ladies" because you are not "man enough" to disrespect men and women who they do not like on this board...funny huh? Not really...it's sad.

I don't really see "them" claiming to be nice, and you are attributing one member's words/actions to the rest. If you're going to accuse someone, accuse them of something they did, not throw blanket statements around, then try to build your response to that.

The lamest part? Is how Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach and others will accuse men of being White Khights for the girls, but they fail to see that many of their provider supporters and men who support them are just that...White Knights. Any provider supporting these mean people are only doing it because they want their business and money.

It can't possibly be because they agree or have their own opinion. You insult more providers with that statement than Whispers ever did.

The men who support them fear to speak up because they want to be invited to the Socials that Whispers likes to throw in order to take the heat off his childish actions.

And there you go. You've covered men and women now. Considering budman33 has been to a couple/few luncheons, I don't think anyone needs to fear speaking up against Whispers and losing their invite. Besides, there are plenty who don't go, even in this very thread, many have said that they get all the info they need here or have no interest in playing in the strip clubs. What do they have to gain by going to the luncheons? There are other events and socials, why should they fear losing invite to this one?

The lurkers fear to speak up because of the retribution they will suffer at the hands of these people with nothing else to do with their lives but to post here.

Retribution? Oh, you mean words typed on a forum. That truly is something to be feared.

The providers who support them just want to be invited to the Socials so that they can get more business. If they speak up? Then they aren't invited. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how things are, and it's really quite easy to see the Mode of Operation that Whispers, Wyldeman30 and Sixxbach and the rest are using...and it has been working for them.

Hell, rocket scientists couldn't figure it out, it took you to figure out this conspiracy! Now that you point it out... I guess it could look like that when you feel like an outsider anywhere you go. Sixx is using the "socials" by not going to them in a few months. I don't think I've seen Wylde at one recently... then again, I might not have the records straight, since I missed a few. Wait...what's working for whom?

The bottom line is this...why is it that you boys can't be nice? Do you REALLY think you are more of a man when you act like a child?

I've seen those guys, I don't think they want to be more of a man.

You really don't post much, you said as much...but you sure are involved in a lot of drama threads. Strange...

The irony is that we are 3 count it out loud 3 posters on a SHMB......

There are thousands of members on this board......CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE IRONY....Yet you are bitching about 3 total members being bullies....

Cyber Bullies has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.....All you have to do to shut up a cyber bully is not read his post.....Just ignore it or dismiss it as non pertinent information..

Seriously wake up get over your old HS or JR. High being picked on days and realize this is a cyber environment. No one can hurt you here....

Sounds to me like no one has gotten laid real good by a provider lately.
Hmmm... a solution.... start getting fucked more offten and then all the guys
Won't be so irritable anymore and all the ladies can be happy with their income.

The outcome: a more friendlier board!

Remember an orgasm is a natural killer of stress and pain!
P.s. I heard that from watching the show the.doctors...lol

Sounds to me like no one has gotten laid real good by a provider lately.
Hmmm... a solution.... start getting fucked more offten and then all the guys
Won't be so irritable anymore and all the ladies can be happy with their income.

The outcome: a more friendlier board!

Remember an orgasm is a natural killer of stress and pain!
P.s. I heard that from watching the show the.doctors...lol Originally Posted by Kandy Kelly

Marketing Genius!

The irony is that we are 3 count it out loud 3 posters on a SHMB......

There are thousands of members on this board......CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE IRONY....Yet you are bitching about 3 total members being bullies....

Cyber Bullies has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.....All you have to do to shut up a cyber bully is not read his post.....Just ignore it or dismiss it as non pertinent information..

Seriously wake up get over your old HS or JR. High being picked on days and realize this is a cyber environment. No one can hurt you here.... Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

I wish there were a referee whistle emoticon 'cause this one makes me want to throw a flag.

Three guys. 15,436 posts. Good or bad, don't try to pretend you're not taking the time to impact the tone.

Cyber bully is too strong a word. Dominating the conversation with sheer volume is in some cases more accurate, especially when the debates heat up.

I wish there were a referee whistle emoticon 'cause this one makes me want to throw a flag. LMAO

Three guys. 15,436 posts. Good or bad, don't try to pretend you're not taking the time to impact the tone.

I hardly think that we are that big of an opposition here dude. The tone is more of a sarcastic one....

Cyber bully is too strong a word. Dominating the conversation with sheer volume is in some cases more accurate, especially when the debates heat up. Originally Posted by irishlad

Again wake up and smell the coffee if you do not like the conversation start a new one. You can always ignore and just not read others postings.... Again thousands of ECCIE members and no one is stopping them....

Just give me a break of that kit kat bar....