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ICUP, that guy LIKES Hitler. Read some of his other crap. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I guess some people don't learn. It's like the bully that gets his ass kicked and insists on bullying.

If the Germans were really smart, they wouldn't have picked a fight they couldn't win. Hubris has brought about failure more than once. The Germans bought into the master race silliness to such an extent that their actions became imprudent. They talked themselves into believing they were invincible.

"Whom God wishes to destroy he first makes mad."
Seneca Originally Posted by joe bloe

That's like saying Napoleon wasn't "smart" because he also couldn't conquer the Russians.

I can guarantee you both Napoleon and Hitler were "smarter" then you'll ever be.

You are actually one of the flag-waving, silly patriotic, gullable and sentimental members of the sheeple that politicians like Hitler and Napoleon like to use for their purposes, but in reality have nothing but distain for.

That's like saying Napoleon wasn't "smart" because he also couldn't conquer the Russians.

I can guarantee you both Napoleon and Hitler were "smarter" then you'll ever be.

You are actually one of the flag-waving, silly patriotic, gullable and sentimental members of the sheeple that politicians like Hitler and Napoleon like to use for their purposes, but in reality have nothing but distain for. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

How smart is it to pick a fight you can't win? Hitler was nuts and so are you.

You are actually one of the flag-waving, silly patriotic, gullable and sentimental members of the sheeple that politicians like Hitler and Napoleon like to use for their purposes, but in reality have nothing but distain for. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Well, you're not defining Joe, but you have nailed a lot of the blind Obama and Romney supporters here. I've tried to tell them that when the police state is made evident, something you obviously support, the Obama National Police, or Romney's, as the case may be, will round them up just like the rest of us.

Obama just wants to do it sooner.

But don't worry, Norway will be safe, once the US falls.

What you don't understand is that if you had lived in Germany at the time it's you, rather than me, that would have been infatuated with Hitler.

You are the kind of flag-waving simplistic guy he would have used. Also, unlike myself you like to insult people you disagree with because you are not a gentlemen, and that was the Nazis all over.

[Joe that is]

It's hard to tell what a person would do in that situation. I'd like to think I'd oppose Hitler from the get go, but Germany was a very troubled country, in serious economic trouble, just out of an embarrassing war, and a charismatic leader arrives promising . . . Hope and Change.

OMG!

It's hard to tell what a person would do in that situation. I'd like to think I'd oppose Hitler from the get go, but Germany was a very troubled country, in serious economic trouble, just out of an embarrassing war, and a charismatic leader arrives promising . . . Hope and Change.

OMG! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I was refering to Joe.

There's nothing in your posts that would lead me to think you would have supported Hitler.

The truth about the German people is that they refused to vote Hitler in. There were four elections in one year and the Nazis couldn't win a majority, so that's why Hindenburg had to appoint Hitler as Chancellor.

But once the Nazis were in they performed miracles about the economy and returning parts of the country lost after the war so the bulk of the German people supported them.

By 1939 very few people remained opposed to the Nazis.

What you don't understand is that if you had lived in Germany at the time it's you, rather than me, that would have been infatuated with Hitler.

You are the kind of flag-waving simplistic guy he would have used. Unlike myself you like to insult people you disagree with because you are not a gentlemen, and that was the Nazis all over.

[Joe that is] Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

You seem to believe that you are above simplistic, emotionally driven, patriotic flag waving. This belief isn't consistant with your views of Norwegians being superior and your love of all things Norwegian.

My guess is your personality would have caused you to be an enthusisatic, infatuated, supporter of Hitler if you had lived in Germany. You seem to be pretty fond of Der Fuhrer even now.

You say that anyone who insults you is ungentlemanly. You have repeatedly insulted America and even denied the Holocaust. Your comments are outrageous. You are outside the bounds of civilized society. For you to complain about being insulted, is passive aggressive behavior. You deliberately provoke angry responses with your vile comments and then pretend to be offended when someone responds in kind.

Do you really believe that horses and wagons kept up with the fast moving panzers? Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Pretty easy to keep up when the tanks were in retrograde and all the time moving to the rear: closer to the Father Land.

Panzers were supplied by trucks, many of which were designed by Ford Motors, and the Ford company was of course a big contributor to the Nazis before the war. Henry Ford was one of many Americans fond of Hitler before the war, as was George W's grandfather Prescott Bush, Joseph Kennedy, and many other fine Americans. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Nazi lorries were pretty inadequate: poorly made, 6-cylinder, air-cooled engines, under powered, difficult to maintain because parts were not interchangeable, and subject to frequent breakdowns -- especially since most Nazi trucks had only the single rear axle and rear wheel drive. On the other hand, U.S. 2-1/2T 6x6 trucks had greater speed, power, load capacity and more cross country ability due to front wheel drive and low range gears. And they were mass produced! The U.S., British and Russians drove the superior American made trucks.

There were advantages to using horses and wagons in other applications, and their use isn't an indication of technical inferiority by any means. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

U.S. 2-1/2T 6x6 trucks had greater speed, power, load capacity and more cross country ability due to front wheel drive and low range gears.

The reason why US airpower, such as B-25s as well as P-47s were used to destroy the panzers and panthers was because the American and British Armies didn't have adequite tanks designed to survive against German armour. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

The reason why P47s were used to destroy Nazi tanks, is because the U.S. built P47s to destroy Nazi tanks. Furthermore, the M4 Sherman was superior to the Mk III and about equal with the Mk IV.

As I've said before the Germans destroyed 17 American tanks for every German tank destroyed by an American or British tank. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

The ratio was actually 5 Shermans for every Mk V and Mk VI; not 17. A Sherman "Firefly", with a 17 pdr TMG, was ballistically almost on par with the Mk VI. You'll need to provide a citation to prove otherwise.

As for "cracking open like a pecan," yeah that's what happened. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Yep! When the P47s were on patrol, the Panzers didn't roll!

I don't think anyone in Norway regards the occupation as bad, at least my relatives said it wasn't bad, and they were all socialists. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Perhaps you've never visited the Norwegian Home Front Museum (Norges Hjemmefrontmuseum) at the Akershus Fortress in Oslo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway%...istance_Museum

Review of Norges Hjemmefrontmuseum (Norwegian Resistance Museum)

From underground printing presses to radio transmitters, from the German attack in 1940 to the liberation in 1945, the museum documents Norway's World War II resistance activities. Photographs documenting the Nazi attack on Norway have been printed on black iron sheets, and a cluster of German rifles is arranged to form the dreaded swastika that Norwegians grew to hate. The war-time traitor and so-called "minister president," Quisling, is deservedly vilified in the exhibits. We are especially moved by the daring underground newspapers, which appeared as early as the summer of 1940 and continued to publish throughout the dark years of the war. The artifacts here can usually be absorbed in about an hour. Outside is a monument dedicated to Norwegian patriots, many of whom were executed by the Nazis at this spot.

I think I just witnessed an intellectual bitch slapping!

You seem to believe that you are above simplistic, emotionally driven, patriotic flag waving. This belief isn't consistant with your views of Norwegians being superior and your love of all things Norwegian.

My guess is your personality would have caused you to be an enthusisatic, infatuated, supporter of Hitler if you had lived in Germany. You seem to be pretty fond of Der Fuhrer even now.

You say that anyone who insults you is ungentlemanly. You have repeatedly insulted America and even denied the Holocaust. Your comments are outrageous. You are outside the bounds of civilized society. For you to complain about being insulted, is passive aggressive behavior. You deliberately provoke angry responses with your vile comments and then pretend to be offended when someone responds in kind. Originally Posted by joe bloe

If you consider criticism of the American government "insulting America" then you've just proven my point that you would have made a perfectly stupid Nazi.

Blood and Soil forever!

Deutchland Uber Alles!

Ein Volk. Ein Reich. Ein Fuhrer!

Pretty easy to keep up when the tanks were in retrograde and all the time moving to the rear: closer to the Father Land.

Nazi lorries were pretty inadequate: poorly made, 6-cylinder, air-cooled engines, under powered, difficult to maintain because parts were not interchangeable, and subject to frequent breakdowns -- especially since most Nazi trucks had only the single rear axle and rear wheel drive. On the other hand, U.S. 2-1/2T 6x6 trucks had greater speed, power, load capacity and more cross country ability due to front wheel drive and low range gears. And they were mass produced! The U.S., British and Russians drove the superior American made trucks.

U.S. 2-1/2T 6x6 trucks had greater speed, power, load capacity and more cross country ability due to front wheel drive and low range gears.

The reason why P47s were used to destroy Nazi tanks, is because the U.S. built P47s to destroy Nazi tanks. Furthermore, the M4 Sherman was superior to the Mk III and about equal with the Mk IV.

The ratio was actually 5 Shermans for every Mk V and Mk VI; not 17. A Sherman "Firefly", with a 17 pdr TMG, was ballistically almost on par with the Mk VI. You'll need to provide a citation to prove otherwise.

Yep! When the P47s were on patrol, the Panzers didn't roll!

Perhaps you've never visited the Norwegian Home Front Museum (Norges Hjemmefrontmuseum) at the Akershus Fortress in Oslo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway%...istance_Museum

Review of Norges Hjemmefrontmuseum (Norwegian Resistance Museum)

From underground printing presses to radio transmitters, from the German attack in 1940 to the liberation in 1945, the museum documents Norway's World War II resistance activities. Photographs documenting the Nazi attack on Norway have been printed on black iron sheets, and a cluster of German rifles is arranged to form the dreaded swastika that Norwegians grew to hate. The war-time traitor and so-called "minister president," Quisling, is deservedly vilified in the exhibits. We are especially moved by the daring underground newspapers, which appeared as early as the summer of 1940 and continued to publish throughout the dark years of the war. The artifacts here can usually be absorbed in about an hour. Outside is a monument dedicated to Norwegian patriots, many of whom were executed by the Nazis at this spot.

Read more: http://www.frommers.com/destinations...#ixzz2222xuW9J

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Omg I can tell you're not a Norwegian.

That stupid museum is like all such idiotic places you'll find in Europe - it's mission is to give the public the impression that there were no German collaborators or Norwegians running the Quisling government.

The fact is that in France 100% of the resistance fighters were members of the communist party, and it was the same in Norway. The Norwegian resistance was funded and took their instructions from Stalin, and were traitorous third columnists who's real nature has been distorted.

As far as the Sherman vs. the German tanks, you're "analysis" is yet more distortions and un-truths.

The figure of 17 tanks killed versus 1 encompases ALL AMERICAN VS. GERMAN TANK ENGAGMENTS IN THE WAR, not only one particular American tank versus German tanks. Also, the real ratio of Sherman vs. German tanks is much more than five to one in the Germans favor because it excludes the German "tank destroyers" which functioned identically to tanks but were not technically classified as such. The Germans had as many tracked, armoured "tank destoyers" as regular tanks, and they were equal to tanks in every way but they didn't need movable turrets.

Please stop selectively using numbers to try to prove the un-provable.

The Sherman Firefly had a comparable gun to the German medium tanks like the Panther, but it's armour was still so inferior that it wasn't survivable unless it got off the first shot AND they were in close range.

Otherwise all the other Shermans which were not Fireflies had a much inferior gun in addtion to very poor armour, and these terrible tanks not only were no match for any of the German heavy tanks but any German medium tanks as well.

The allies fielded no heavy tanks until the war was almost over, while the Germans were able to field the Tiger and Tiger II in addition to the medium tanks such as the Panther. The Panther was rushed into production because of the inferiority of the German Panzers relative to the Russian T-34.

You are correct in that the Panzer 2, 3 and 4 were equal to the sherman, and were definitely inferior to the Soviet T-34 and earlier Soviet heavy tanks, but by the time of Normandy these German tanks were not being produced any more.

As for the merit of German trucks versus the American ones, well....I don't think that bears on the issue at hand, which is....

1.The American army was 60% draftees with very low morale. Except for the all-volunteer units like the marines and the airborne divisions the combat power of US units was lower than anyone else except maybe the Italians. Most American soldiers didn't want to be there, tried to get out of combat duty if they could, and often didn't even fire their weapons unless their commanders were pushing them to do so.

If I would have been drafted into that war, which was not America's war, I would have done the same things.

2.The American tanks were deathtraps.

O The Norwegian resistance was funded and took their instructions from Stalin, and were traitorous third columnists who's real nature has been distorted. Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Here we go again. You have an amazing ability to even out ridicule yourself.

http://www.lawzone.com/half-nor/haukelid.htm

http://suite101.com/article/max-manu...brutes-a221520

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Manus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegi...tance_movement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnar_S%C3%B8nsteby

Thank God for AIDS. Originally Posted by Bukkake in Outer Space

You are surely not arguing that God sent AIDS as a punishment for gay people, and to wipe them out?

I am speechless.

I think I just witnessed an intellectual bitch slapping! Originally Posted by joe bloe